Restaurant refuses service to Christian group, citing staff ‘dignity’

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Christianity is the leader in hate in America.
People use it as a base for their prejudices

Meanwhile people are fleeing atheist paradises like China, North Korea and Cuba to come to America
 
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The actual irony is that I will submit to authorities on subjects rather than my own experience/feelings.

Postmodernists do the opposite.


I also believe 'objective truth' exists. Not in just logical or mathematical reasoning.

Now, are we done arguing this strawman you created?​

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My brother in Christ, since when are you in expert on postmodernism? Shouldnt you submit to them?
 

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I mean the article clearly states that the event was for "supporters", meaning it wasn't even only for people from the organization, but for people who support it, as in align with their politics. And you can't really compare it with your company, because this is a religious group that openly advertises their political stance on a whole group of people and women issues. Does your company have public positions they hold on a whole group of people or women issues on their website?
That sentence wasn’t very clear to me because a “dessert reception” doesn’t sound like anything promoting any sort of ideologies. But I could be wrong. Either way, I stand by the belief that if it was the type of event that you quoted and bolded, then yes it would be the same as my company because without any research the person providing the service wouldn’t know the difference. Also, there are plenty of companies that make clear their political leanings. A lot them just aren’t perceived to be radical so there’s no need to harp on it.

Either way, this organization isn’t the NRA, nationally known by most of the population. She had to Google search who they were and their beliefs because she didn’t even know herself. And as much as I don’t like the NRA, if they had a chapter that wanted to have a party at my restaurant, I wouldn’t care. As long as it wasn’t some conference or rally or something like that, I’d take their money, left them eat for a couple of hours and let them leave.

The only exception to me would be some sort of hate group. I wouldn’t even let them step foot into my business, if I had the power.
 

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There are plenty of Christians that operate the same way. They just don’t get news articles written about them doing what they are supposed to do. How many Christians do you think own businesses? Now how often do you hear about Christians refusing service to people? Exactly. Just because it happens 3 or 4 times and people write think pieces about it doesn’t mean this is some prevalent issue.
Dumbass, this isn't a thinkpeice, this is in the Supreme Court. This could change how we operate as a country, you got to have a better understanding of the news media outside of the think peices you only read. Plus just look up hobby lobby. Christians have been doing this forever.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I'm just saying there needs to be consistency.

equal treatment under the law was meant to be the consistency but christofacists don't want that so now these are the state of things.
 

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Speaking as someone who operates a profitable mobile business, this is beyond stupid. All money is good money, I don't care what your beliefs are in sales, can u afford this is my only questions. Trump rallies, lbtgcqwerty parades IDGAF
yeah i'm sure the jews in nazi germany were serving and selling to nazi party members right up until they came not to buy a product or service but to carry them off to the concentration camps.
 

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Here's where Postmodernism shoots itself in the foot:

Discrimination is and ALWAYS WILL BE 'wrong'.​

Paradox of tolerance. The paradox of tolerance was described by Karl Popper in 1945. The paradox states that if a society is tolerant without limit, their ability to be tolerant will eventually be seized or destroyed by the intolerant. Popper came to the seemingly paradoxical conclusion that in order to maintain a tolerant society, the society must be intolerant of intolerance.

Paradox of tolerance - Wikipedia
 

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So basically they refused to associate their business with a group whose political opinions go against theirs. Pretty sure that happens all the time.

Pretty sure it's discriminatory. If a Christian doctor refuses to treat gay patients in his private clinic, there would be an uproar.
 

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Pretty sure it's discriminatory. If a Christian doctor refuses to treat gay patients in his private clinic, there would be an uproar.
Doctors already operate under an oath to treat all patients. They aren’t doing their job.

Business can refuse to host all kinds of events and do it all the time. NBC refused to host the Golden Globes because they felt the organization behind it was corrupt.
 

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Doctors already operate under an oath to treat all patients. They aren’t doing their job.

Business can refuse to host all kinds of events and do it all the time. NBC refused to host the Golden Globes because they felt the organization behind it was corrupt.

Wasn't there a furor over a bakery refusing to make a cake for a gay wedding for religious reasons?

In my book, it's perfectly fine if a gay establishment doesn't want to serve people who disagree with their lifestyle choices. They just need to keep that same energy when it's the other way around. Don't sue and run to the media when a religious establishment refuses to serve you.
 
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