Rick Ross - Mastermind ethered AGAIN by another review, this time by Needle Drop

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Nah dude.. i've been following Fantano for about two years now. Our musical tastes, are just different. And with hip-hop he has very hipsterish tastes. I haven't seen a positive review for any street based music from him that you couldn't see on the undercard of a Coachella or Outlook festival.

If you can find two street based rappers (that would be outta place at coachella) that he's enjoyed, i'll be shocked.

Well, ultimately reviews are individual and subjective. So to a degree you are right. But at the same time, the idea that dude is not knowledgeable or doesn't know anything about hip hop is flat out wrong. Again, he probably knows more about hip hop than "street dudes" or the average Coli poster.

 

[WEKetchum]

Several issues here. Race is not contingent on the existence of any social construct, whether it's in place to demean or empower any of those races. Race exists in the same way age and gender do; as an identifiable characteristic of humanity. The extent to which decisions are made, decisions based on racial differences, is where racism comes in to play. If I'm a white employer, and pass up a black job applicant for a lesser qualified white applicant, most would accuse me of racism. Are you implying here, that if I were a black employer, and employed a black applicant over a more qualified white applicant that would not be racism? Seriously?

Edit: let me tell you though, I respect your ability to string together a coherent argument.

Gender is a social construct as well; sex is an identifiable characteristic. Gender is a social construct because the gender roles were built for society. For example: the idea of men being the providers and women staying at home to raise children is a product of gender, and that was *constructed* - clearly, women can work and have jobs, and men can stay at home and raise kids. The idea that the man is the one who "heads the household" is based on gender; women can clearly lead households, as well. Sex is an identifiable characteristic because of body parts, etc.; but gender is social.

Those distinctions weren't made historically just so we could tell each other apart. These "identifiable characteristics of humanity" were historically used to put together a power structure - a structure that is still in place. They're historically inseparable. You can't separate them when men have more power than women, and when whites have more power than blacks. That's not a coincidence, and it's not biological: it's because men and whites used those categorizations to acquire power. Without the social construction, race and gender don't exist. Without race or gender, we're all just people who look different.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

white people love classic 90s east coast hip hop in general. You ask a cac what their favorite rap album is 99% of the time its Illmatic or 36 chambers.

Illmatic??? Nah man. I was in 8th grade when Illmatic came out. NO white people listened to Illmatic. Illmatic was an underground, street hip-hop classic when it came out. The people who listened to Illmatic before all the acclaim it got later were the same people that were listening to stuff like Black Moon and Jeru.

Now white people loved Wu-Tang.

 

[WEKetchum]

Several issues here. Race is not contingent on the existence of any social construct, whether it's in place to demean or empower any of those races. Race exists in the same way age and gender do; as an identifiable characteristic of humanity. The extent to which decisions are made, decisions based on racial differences, is where racism comes in to play. If I'm a white employer, and pass up a black job applicant for a lesser qualified white applicant, most would accuse me of racism. Are you implying here, that if I were a black employer, and employed a black applicant over a more qualified white applicant that would not be racism? Seriously?

Edit: let me tell you though, I respect your ability to string together a coherent argument.

To answer your other question, both employers would be racially discriminating, but only the white employer would be perpetuating racism, because only he is perpetuating an existent power structure based on race.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

Illmatic??? Nah man. I was in 8th grade when Illmatic came out. NO white people listened to Illmatic. Illmatic was an underground, street hip-hop classic when it came out. The people who listened to Illmatic before all the acclaim it got later were the same people that were listening to stuff like Black Moon and Jeru.

Now white people loved Wu-Tang.

I'm talking about college age hipsters and dudes who are into hip hop, not Big Mels. The type that reads pitchfork, cacplex, fader etc.

Spoiler

i was 4 when illmatic came out

 

[Prince Cairo]

Well, ultimately reviews are individual and subjective. So to a degree you are right. But at the same time, the idea that dude is not knowledgeable or doesn't know anything about hip hop is flat out wrong. Again, he probably knows more about hip hop than "street dudes" or the average Coli poster.

I feel like you're the only one among the recent posters that's on the same level as I am with this.

 

[g-ice]

Wait people saying that Fantano don't fukk with street rap.

That Mafia 6X joint got high praise from him and that's just as street as you can get. Also Wu Tang is his favorite rap album so

Anyways @ this review. Can't argue with him since I agree 100 % with him.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Well, ultimately reviews are individual and subjective. So to a degree you are right. But at the same time, the idea that dude is not knowledgeable or doesn't know anything about hip hop is flat out wrong things. Again, he probably knows more about hip hop than "street dudes" or the average Coli poster.

knowing about hip hop and understanding street music are 2 different

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

I'm talking about college age hipsters and dudes who are into hip hop, not Big Mels. The type that reads pitchfork, cacplex, fader etc.

Spoiler

i was 4 when illmatic came out

Perhaps, but if so, they decided that years later, probably after they heard If I Ruled the World and learned that Illmatic was considered a classic in "real hip-hop" canon. When it was out, they probably were probably listening to Nine Inch Nails, Stone Temple Pilots, and maybe 2Pac and Dr. Dre and didn't even know who Nas was. Illmatic was a hoodie and Tims street gem when it dropped, and non-melanated peoples didn't really know about it...except for those in the core purist hip-hop audience.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

bottim line is, i would never trust the opinion of a rap album from a mf like this. good or bad. there us an obvious disconnect with this cat and cats like him

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

knowing about hip hop and understanding street music are 2 different

Point to some examples of "street elements" on Mastermind that a square like Fantano couldn't understand.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

Point to some examples of "street elements" on Mastermind that a square like Fantano couldn't understand.

drug dealers dream

 

[Art Barr]

You talking about the nappy head dude that was literally squirming in his seat during the verse haha
Honestly breh im sick of all these youtube f ucks thinking they opinion matters.

Remember back in the 90s mtv had a white boldheaded VJ that knew everything there was to know about music? Thats the type of people we need reviewing music not these clowns.

y'all hated on matt, too.
when fantano and matt know more than damn near this whole forums except give or take a dozen, people.



Art Barr

 

[Art Barr]

knowing about hip hop and understanding street music are 2 different

no, they are not.
you, dudes just keep moving the goalpost around for your own agenda.
just like you nikkaz that try to hate on krs.
being the father to any and every quality gangsta rap album ever made.


art barr

 

[Ronnie Lott]

no, they are not.
you, dudes just keep moving the goalpost around for your own agenda.
just like you nikkaz that try to hate on krs.
being the father to any and every quality gangsta rap album ever made.


art barr

what the hell are u talkin about?