Rick Ross - Mastermind ethered AGAIN by another review, this time by Needle Drop

[Will Ross]

This dude prob knows more about hip hop than most "street nikkas"... thats the irony

Whos opinion would you trust more on food for example... a nikka who eats nothing but Hot Pockets and McDonalds value meal shyt, or a world traveling food critic

"He aint part of the culture" is the biggest cop out ever... lotta nikkas screamin that shyt dont know anything about rap from before Carter 3 and will be the first ones to disrespect a veteran. Prob never heard the original to "Nobody". Say shyt like "its a classic... for this era". If its gabbage its gabbage. Say shyt like, "yo his buzz is crazy. he got mad IG followers. Drake cosigned him. stop hating". Hip hop culture has always been about "keeping it real"... being too sensitive to hear someone not cosign any and every fukking thing is not part of "the culture"

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I see where you're coming from. Let me tell you, I'm honestly not familiar with Anthony's reviews; if I'm looking for a review of a rap project, I'm going to be looking for what Pitchfork or XXL has to say about it generally. That being the case, I was unaware that Anthony does have a predisposed bias against Ross's music... and that would be a valid reason to dismiss his opinion on Ross's music. I think a good critical review of anything is unbiased and informed. I don't think it has anything to do with the reviewer's skin color or lifestyle, which is the point I was stressing in my first post.

1. just go on his youtube page and click through a few. He likes esoteric rap, but not the shyt that appeals to most rap fans.

2. I used to want to agree with you, but the patterns are just to hard to ignore. Some people just ain't qualified to understand rap music. I'm not even talking about the struggle, but the lingo, the flair, the metaphors, the style, or the undertones. The fact Fantano made fun of the "counting money for my friends on skype" line just shows what a lame he is.

 

[pimpineasy]

Rick Ross' very existence is a lampooning of hip hop's cultural aspects. Fantano knows this and treated the album harshly due to this. Ross is the musical equivalent to ass implants.

 

[Calmye]

Mind you, most of these youtube reviewers just try to come off with an heir of "sophisitication" of what they THINK they should like, without actually succumbing to the fact that to admit they like something means they've limited themselves.

This wack dusty cornball on the DeadEndHipHop vid about Kanye's Drunk in Love said "I can't imagine saying that about my girl...ugh"... nikka whats WRONG with you?

You talking about the nappy head dude that was literally squirming in his seat during the verse haha
Honestly breh im sick of all these youtube f ucks thinking they opinion matters.

Remember back in the 90s mtv had a white boldheaded VJ that knew everything there was to know about music? Thats the type of people we need reviewing music not these clowns.

 

[WEKetchum]

Fantano has this running joke against Ross thats just getting pathetic.

Ross, like all other rappers, is an ENTERTAINER.

If you can't value the music BASED ON THAT, then what else are you doing????

Rick Ross and Kanye aren't my role models. They're artists whose work I enjoy.

He's said that he doesn't look for Ross to be deep, but that his music is wack from an entertainment perspective. As a comparison, he said to imagine the movie Scarface, but edited down to only the scenes that show him successful, partying, bagging women and snorting coke. He says that Ross' drug dealer storylines get boring because there's rarely any tension in the story: not much danger from other dealers, no remorse from dealing, etc.; that it's one-sided. He said Ross' music is boring because of a lack of variation, basic flows, and hit or miss production. I don't always agree, but they're valid critiques.

 

[Mike Otherz]

Couldn't stop chuckling/shaking my head throughout the seven pages of this discussion. But I did learn these things about The Coli members:

• Non-blacks are incapable of having a valuable or even an informed opinion about rap music by virtue of their skin color.
• If you can't "relate" to the music, you shouldn't have an opinion on it. (Isn't it more or less fact that Ross makes up all the shyt he raps about anyway? What are you relating to? Him lying?)
• Needle Drop reviews hardly take themselves too seriously, yet everyone seems to get butthurt over them.

What exactly are the necessary "credentials" one needs in order to review music? Because it seems to me like everyone on this entire forum is in some capacity here to discuss their opinion on rap music, Anthony chooses to do so over YouTube videos. Granted, I found his personality to be overbearingly corny and pretentious as well, but to say that he's incapable of listening to music and lending a critical assessment of its quality simply because he's white/"nerdy"/etc. is ignorant, racist and laughable.

Just my two cents.

black people cant be racist, only prejudiced. we dont have white power structures to c/s our prejudice to hurt white people. any white person who gets butt hurt over a discriminated againt people not trusting their white privelaged azz is a ignorant of his countrys history self pitying caac. like most whites by the way.

 

[Prince Cairo]

black people cant be racist, only prejudiced.

 

[Mike Otherz]

ur ignorance is showing. take the L and read a history book.

 

[Prince Cairo]

ur ignorance is showing. take the L and read a history book.

For starters, I hope you know I'm not white. Secondly, I assure you I've read plenty of history books, in and outside of school. I'm curious though, about where you're going with this. lol.

 

[WEKetchum]

it's true

Race itself is a social construct that is used to create power systems. As such, racism is the perpetuation of said systems. Black people can discriminate, but they can't be racist because they don't maintain any power from doing it. It doesn't perpetuate a racist system if blacks discriminate; when whites discriminate, it does.

 

[Prince Cairo]

it's true

Race itself is a social construct that is used to create power systems. As such, racism is the perpetuation of said systems. Black people can discriminate, but they can't be racist because they don't maintain any power from doing it. It doesn't perpetuate a racist system if blacks discriminate; when whites discriminate, it does.

Several issues here. Race is not contingent on the existence of any social construct, whether it's in place to demean or empower any of those races. Race exists in the same way age and gender do; as an identifiable characteristic of humanity. The extent to which decisions are made, decisions based on racial differences, is where racism comes in to play. If I'm a white employer, and pass up a black job applicant for a lesser qualified white applicant, most would accuse me of racism. Are you implying here, that if I were a black employer, and employed a black applicant over a more qualified white applicant that would not be racism? Seriously?

Edit: let me tell you though, I respect your ability to string together a coherent argument.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

What's funny? It's all truth

Let me put it like this... is there ANYBODY who could say Ross' album was wack whose opinion you respect

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Remember back in the 90s mtv had a white boldheaded VJ that knew everything there was to know about music?

Again, Anthony Fantano is prob just as knowledgeable if not more than that VJ. Lets just be honest. It doesnt matter how knowledgeable someone is about music. Their opinion only counts if it matches yours.

 

[Darealtwo1]

He said big sean verse was wack?
Big sean had no verse on the album

What mastermind copy did he get?

 

[Prince Cairo]

Again, Anthony Fantano is prob just as knowledgeable if not more than that VJ. Lets just be honest. It doesnt matter how knowledgeable someone is about music. Their opinion only counts if it matches yours.

That's the kicker. The guy's race is honestly a scapegoat here; people happen to disagree with his opinion on an album, and blame the difference in opinion as a result of race. FOH.