Rick Ross - Mastermind ethered AGAIN by another review, this time by Needle Drop

[92Inc]

rae spit fake ducktale raps over obfcl
nas spit fake ducktale raps over iww
jay spit fake ducktale raps over rd
big spit fake ducktale raps over LAD

not putting this ross album on the level of any other them, would you feel the same if he made a video like that about one of them album, regardless its disrespectful to the culture, just look at the video dude is corny as fukk and never be apart of this culture, this white boy is stand 100ft away and look at the culture from a distance type dude, he doesnt deserve to speak on the culture

and i have seen other corny ass reviews from him that posters on this site post, and i felt the same way, dudes doesnt know the history of rap, he can sit his dumb ass down

did you buy the album

 

[Ineedmoney504]

did you buy the album

Yup, I did, one of the few I ever brought

 

[Super Cheech]

cac

 

[Mike Otherz]

Do black people even review hip hop anymore? Or have we strictly delegated that role to outsiders?

sh!t is disgusting, thing is, even if these cacs let a nikka review they gonna have a nikka that c/s their opinions. craig jenkins the only black person i seen even allowed on Pitchfork and he sh!tted on Mastermind as well. i get people saying that fans are just sensitive because their fvorite artists got sh!tted on, but if u go back, Rolling STone was giving Rakim and Ice Cube classics like 2/5 stars. these cacs literally are clueless.

 

[Mike Otherz]

that review was low key racist. it like he is saying" as a white intellectual, i canttake this black clown seriously". and by extension he clowning black people that like the music. instead of him to serious. i nevr take what white people say seriously about rap. even one who do their homewrok like Andrew Noz and Sasha Frere Jones and Jon Caramanaica. Granted they know more about it than ya average critic but still a lot of low key privelage in what they say.

 

[Big Mel]

sh!t is disgusting, thing is, even if these cacs let a nikka review they gonna have a nikka that c/s their opinions. craig jenkins the only black person i seen even allowed on Pitchfork and he sh!tted on Mastermind as well. i get people saying that fans are just sensitive because their fvorite artists got sh!tted on, but if u go back, Rolling STone was giving Rakim and Ice Cube classics like 2/5 stars. these cacs literally are clueless.

Thing is, they really were clueless back then. Remember rap was supposed to be a fad. People aren't clueless anymore. They're actually really astute unless they shill or dwell in that young, hipster environment. Fantano does neither.

 

[WEKetchum]

Honestly, I trust reviews from non-rap sites these days more than I do from rap sites, aside from a few. Rap sites may be more well-versed in the culture, but it's not like they always use that knowledge/understanding in their reviews. Most rap sites/mags are going to give artists higher ratings so they can maintain relationships with them to get access for future stories, or to get them and their labels to buy ads. Or, they'll play the middle ground: an album can be 2-star quality, but they don't want to completely kill the relationship, so they give it 3.5 stars. Plus, sites are going to play up to what their readership is: if you have a site known for underground hip-hop, for example, they're likely going to trash mainstream rap based on who is reading the site, even if the album is good.

At least with Anthony Fantano or Pitchfork, they seem to be giving their real opinions, they back up those opinions with strong explanations, and they take definitive stances. And if they're not an exclusively hip-hop site, they have less reason to pander to hip-hop artists and their labels with BS reviews.

 

[The Real]

The thought of Fantano bumping this album makes me laugh. Ross's music isn't exactly geared towards him so he really has no business reviewing it.

It's geared towards white people. Fantano is the perfect reviewer. You think rap albums are geared towards the Black community in 2014?

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

It's geared towards white people. Fantano is the perfect reviewer. You think rap albums are geared towards the Black community in 2014?

Album isn't geared toward fantano at all, he goes for the post rap type stuff like Death Grips, Shabazz Palaces, etc etc. Im not gonna say that white people don't fukk with ross though; hes a more accessible and slicker version of the trap shyt that's too raw for them.

 

[Ranger21]

did he say anything that was wrong or not true

 

[The Real]

Album isn't geared toward fantano at all, he goes for the post rap type stuff like Death Grips, Shabazz Palaces, etc etc. Im not gonna say that white people don't fukk with ross though; hes a more accessible and slicker version of the trap shyt that's too raw for them.

But like most white hipster types, he also has at least a surface-level appreciation of the 90s canon. A lot of the people in this thread are pretending that Ross is too "hard" or too "gangster" for white people, but every white hipster loves Wu Tang, Biggie, 3-6 Mafia, etc.

 

[Julius Skrrvin]

But like most white hipster types, he also has at least a surface-level appreciation of the 90s canon. A lot of the people in this thread are pretending that Ross is too "hard" or too "gangster" for white people, but every white hipster loves Wu Tang, Biggie, 3-6 Mafia, etc.

white people love classic 90s east coast hip hop in general. You ask a cac what their favorite rap album is 99% of the time its Illmatic or 36 chambers.

But thats a clearly different quality and type of gangster than this. The gap in lyricism.. plus a lot of these hipster reviewers put a lot of stock in artistic integrity so Ross' obvious character playing irritates them.

 

[Danie84]

This cac is corny, and Rawse the fraud, ducktales are too drawn out

 

[Mr. Negative]

I don't listen to NeedleDrop when it comes to "gangsta" rap, and neither should you.

It's like trusting my opinion on contemporary gospel.

 

[RTF]

NeedleDrop knows nothing about hip-hop that appeals to black people.