Rick Ross - Mastermind ethered AGAIN by another review, this time by Needle Drop

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Oh mos def...Saying Ross or Migos lacks substance is a fair point to make.. But it should only be made once..He's 6 albums deep..At this point Fantano should know exactly what he's getting with Ross.. He came in the door with songs like "Hustlin" and "White House".. As a self professed "nerd" lack of substance is something that he's probably going to have distain for..Which is why I take his opinion with a grain of salt.. I know he's coming from a position of bias...
I don't know. Lack of substance on album one is a fair criticism. To me it's an even more fair criticism on album 6. If you really haven't said shyt about anything over six albums - what the fukk are you doing? I'm not saying the above applies to Ross for the record.
 

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2:45

This J. Cole review where he b1tches about his use of the words "f@ggot" and "retard" on some ultra liberal city slicker white guilt steez..This is a perspective by someone that has no knowledge of the history of hip hop culture or barbershop slang...I don't need this level of political correctness from a white guy that listens to hours of music littered with the word "n1gga" without any type of protest..He's not judging the album.. He's making a moral judgement on Cole..

Fukk outta here..



At 10:10 he calls FUKKWITMEUKNOWIGOTIT the worst song on Magna Carter and shows more irrational hate for of all things Ross' flow (which was pitch perfect for a trap beat)..If you have that lack of insight on one of the biggest club/street bangers of the year, it lets ME know not to take your opinion serious on any music of that genre..

Dude is frankly just out of touch with the core audience that a lot of the music he reviews is meant for....

Props for pulling these!
I'll listen to them later.
But off top, although MCHG was a steaming pile of shyt, it does seem odd to single out the song with Ross as the worst. I didn't care for that song, or really any song on that album initially, but the song with Ross has grown on me the few times I've caught it on the radio and then hearing it on Ross' album.
So that does seem like evidence of bias against Ross and trap.
 

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Go to a GFK concert or Wu concert today, it will be full of people like Fantano. I've been to Kendrick, Ross, Montana & Wu concerts in recent years. Ross crowd was much more Montana than Kendrick.. or Wu (which was cac dominated)


Does he have a positive review of anything by Guwop? Scooter? Flocka? Reece? Keef? Durk?
Why is it that white people like Wu? They have street content as well...

It's not about whether he gives a positive review to any of those artists you listed, its whether his review, negative or positive, is knowledgeable.
 

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i remember the 1st time i heard screwed n chopped music. i absolutely hated that shyt :scusthov: I thought it was the worse form of hip hop.

but until i went to college and some texas
cats really put me up on the music, then i understood it. They took me to H town, i poured up a few cups of lean, i immersed myself in the music. i went to the hoods of h town, the clubs, posted in the parkin lot and saw with my own eyes all them candy coated slabs. i began to understand where and why screwed n chopped music came from.

i went to a few mom and pops music stores where they had all the shyt from swisha house, dj screw, michael 5000 watts etc. from then i had a better understanding of the music and now im one of the biggest screw heads in the world.

but my previous heavy dislike of chopped n screwed music came from pure ignorance and an apparent disconnect from the culture
sounds to me like you couldn't escape the music and it grew on you over time.
Its good that you were able to experience screw music on the scene where it originated - but you shouldn't have to immerse yourself in the music and lifestyle simply to grow to like it. To me that indicates a lack of substance with the music. "I love screw music, but only if I'm Houston, in a parking lot, on lean". That's not a ringing endorsement (I'm not saying that that is what you are saying for the record).
 

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It didn't, it just wasn't a good one.

:yeshrug:

Fantano obviously listens to rap, those other people don't review or chime in on country because they don't listen to it.



No, they know more about what makes a good film, or in this case a good (rap) album. IMO, Fantano is no less capable of giving a valid critique on a Rap album than 90% of the people on this board. This doesn't mean that he can or will give a completely objective review when it comes to certain kinds of rap, just means that your country analogy doesn't really apply.

And a lot of this "he ain't apart of our culture!" shyt is a defense mechanism for stans who expect everybody to co-sign their musical tastes, a lot of these nikkas aren't apart of the culture either regardless of how much they kid themselves.
The bolded really sums it up. We can argue about the number - but at the end of the day - the guy is either capable to give a review or not, bias and objectivity are really separate issues.
 

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Thats all I'm saying..People act like all music is just processed through a vacuum....Its good/bad..Dope/wack...

That's why my least favorite statement on these boards is "I just like good music"



I personally still don't like screw.. But I understand who its meant for and its not me...But I appreciate it and respect it not to write a review on it...Thats why the general concept of critics are dumb to me in general... If you're a vegan, why should I read your review on the newest steak house? You have to love the things you critique or your criticism rings hollow to me..
I don't know about loving what you review. That has it's drawbacks as well. Let certain people on here tell it, every Jay album is a classic, or every Nas album is a classic, or Big Sean isn't an abject failure. Would you really want to read @blackslash review of the latest Jay album?

Knowledge is the key.
 

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There is a something to be said about this type of white guy.. It's like how Dave Chapelle explained his differences with Neal Brennan on Oprah and their eventual business seperation..It's one thing to be an expert on Black comedy.. But something totally different to be an expert on being black...

This goes back to my Friday analogy.. Just because you know film and know comedy doesn't mean you know more than the audience something is geared towards...

I feel the spirit of Lord Jamar entering me right now

:lawd:
I agree with this 100%. At the end of the day, white people will never fully understand or appreciate exactly what it is to be black.

I just don't think that disqualifies them from reviewing street based hip hop.
 

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THANK YOU

The Migos are one of the HOTTEST acts out right now and i LOVE their shyt.

But looking at fantano, a guy with a masters pursuing a professional degree can't appreciate it.

fukk that loser.
Are you saying an educated person can't appreciate Migos?
 

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all this sums up to everyone can have their own opinion on the music, theres nobody that says you have to take these critics/reviewers words as gospel.experience the music for yourself and come up with ya own opinion

shiit didnt need extra long ass paragraphs to come to that
 

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all this sums up to everyone can have their own opinion on the music, theres nobody that says you have to take these critics/reviewers words as gospel.experience the music for yourself and come up with ya own opinion

shiit didnt need extra long ass paragraphs to come to that
That's not what this thread was about at all. Do you read threads or do you just skim through it?
 

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That's not what this thread was about at all. Do you read threads or do you just skim through it?

okay thats not what you're talking about. just say that instead.

because if this thread not about how this 1 man opinion suppose to be so much relevant and we're all suppose to fall in line behind it, what exactly this thread about?
 

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okay thats not what you're talking about. just say that instead.

because if this thread not about how this 1 man opinion suppose to be so much relevant and we're all suppose to fall in line behind it, what exactly this thread about?
Thread was about whether or not Fantano is qualified to render an opinion on street hip hop, and more broadly, whether anyone not living that street lifestyle can/should weigh in.
 

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Watched the MCHG review and the Life is Good review as well. This guy fukking hates Rick Ross! He trashes him every chance he gets! :russ:
 
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