Rick Ross throws Def Jam in the bushes, signs deal with Epic Records

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That's an imprint. MMG is distributed by Atlantic. Ross is distributed by Def Jam, now Epic. Its actually a cool move because Epic is becoming a powerhouse. Future already there, and Diddy just signed a few months ago. Ross already hinted at him signing last summer.

Ross' run is over though..

nikka has been using gimmicks to sell his music and the quality of the music has dipped.

What happened to Maybach Music 5 jawn with Bobby Womack (RIP)?? What happened to the moving scoring production??

I hope he gets focused again. I had high hopes after Black Dollar but Black Market felt l like a poor attempt at capitalizing off of the social ills impacting our community right now. Like his version of TPAB but a low quality version

I need hungry Ross
 

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Billboard.com interview. He takes 1000 words to say nothing. Take a shot every time he says "most definitely"



You met with a lot of different labels. What made you choose Epic?

Yeah, once again in a few interviews I let people know that I had discussed my potential future over at a few labels. The different possibilities, the different approaches. You know how optimistic, how excited these companies and the brands [are] and I got a lot of good conversation from a lot of different people, but at the end of the day, I based my decision on reality, and reality was history with L.A. Reid. When I first came to Def Jam, in '06, all we ever did was win, put up big numbers. He always understood my vision and my creative; every time I came in his office, we sat down and discussed different approaches. We always ended up on the same page and we always won big. And at the end of the day, that's what I based the decision on. Man, we made this a real big positive thing. I'm excited.

You've spoken a lot about the importance of ownership in searching for a deal. Is that what Epic offered? What can you do with that?

I think that's who seen the vision -- by L.A. Reid being there from the beginning, he understood my desires I believe more than anybody, as well as the vision and helping making sure it was executed. There's a lot of things that we're gonna do and I'm excited to see it happening on that side of the fence. So it can match with what I do artistically and creatively to go to that next level and continue to do what we doing through a new lens, and enjoy the atmosphere.
--note: he doesn't say he got owership :pachaha:

Rick Ross Breaks Down 'Black Market' Track-By-Track

What did learn from L.A. and what do you still have to learn from him?

I think the difference between L.A. and a lot of other executives, he is actually an artist. He actually has a vision. He actually knows what it is to be an artist himself. So he bridges that from an executive side to being an artist and we have realistic creative conversations, and they always go somewhere. I think that's the dope shyt about him.

Is there a plan to eventually bring MMG with you to Epic?

MMG is still signed to Atlantic Records, but I'm having -- we most definitely (1 :pachaha:)having different conversations. I just had a sit down over at Atlantic. Our 2016 is most definitely (2 :pachaha:) looking strong as can be. But we always, you know, out here on the business front, we looking for what's best, what's going on and what's best. We gonna stay focused on the music, but I do have my eyes open for opportunities. And L.A. is most definitely (3 :pachaha:) interested in bringing MMG over to Epic Records.

Was it tough for you to leave Def Jam after spending 10 years there?

Not at all. Not at all. It wasn't anything that was personal. We made a lot of history and we had a lot of fun. Def Jam is an iconic label. Great years at Def Jam. A lot of great friends over there, a lot of employees that I became cool and friends with, but at the end of the day, it's all about the art, and me continuing to love what I do. And there's only one way for me to continue to love what I do, and that's continuing to do new things and get bigger and better. And this was most definitely (4 :pachaha:) a bigger situation to step into.


What do you feel like Epic can do for you that Def Jam, or some of the other labels you were talking to, couldn't?

I don't really think it's about what they can do that Def Jam couldn't do. I wouldn't even want to put a quote out in such a way. Like I said, it's all about the visions and the plans, and L.A. Reid, I feel me and his relationship supersedes anything else. So if I have a vision or a plan -- if I wanted to film a movie with this next project -- if that was it, I could see down and creatively make some strong points, and I believe I can get that done. And those are the different things, just having that type of relationship. At the end of the day, I believe it's the business relationship, the speaking relationship that's formed. And you know, it's time to go get it.

What are your first plans with Epic?

I'm close to a year not being overseas; I was on house arrest this whole last album. The promo I did was really limited. I may have had one month where I could actually go do limited radio runs, and so on and so forth. But you know, it was cool. But I want to be able to move and go back international, go overseas. With the next project we're gonna touch those overseas markets, all those other markets that have been missing me for such a long time. You know, we just gonna continue to build on that. As far as the music and everything else, I got that sewed up. I just need to build it to concentrate more on the things that they do.

So are you looking at setting up a tour? What do you have planned now for 2016?

In 2016, I'm back in the studio already recording some new material. I want to hold off on actually touring until I can tour the way I want to without restrictions, without possibly having to cancel a date due to a potential court date. So we're doing spot dates now where everything is cool, and we're ready to just get this legal situation behind us. But all the requests for us are there to go to all these different places and put the tours together. But I just want to do it right. We got a little time, we just did our new situation, and by the time the summer come around we should be able to go into full gear.
 

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Billboard.com interview. He takes 1000 words to say nothing. Take a shot every time he says "most definitely"



You met with a lot of different labels. What made you choose Epic?

Yeah, once again in a few interviews I let people know that I had discussed my potential future over at a few labels. The different possibilities, the different approaches. You know how optimistic, how excited these companies and the brands [are] and I got a lot of good conversation from a lot of different people, but at the end of the day, I based my decision on reality, and reality was history with L.A. Reid. When I first came to Def Jam, in '06, all we ever did was win, put up big numbers. He always understood my vision and my creative; every time I came in his office, we sat down and discussed different approaches. We always ended up on the same page and we always won big. And at the end of the day, that's what I based the decision on. Man, we made this a real big positive thing. I'm excited.

You've spoken a lot about the importance of ownership in searching for a deal. Is that what Epic offered? What can you do with that?

I think that's who seen the vision -- by L.A. Reid being there from the beginning, he understood my desires I believe more than anybody, as well as the vision and helping making sure it was executed. There's a lot of things that we're gonna do and I'm excited to see it happening on that side of the fence. So it can match with what I do artistically and creatively to go to that next level and continue to do what we doing through a new lens, and enjoy the atmosphere.
--note: he doesn't say he got owership :pachaha:

Rick Ross Breaks Down 'Black Market' Track-By-Track

What did learn from L.A. and what do you still have to learn from him?

I think the difference between L.A. and a lot of other executives, he is actually an artist. He actually has a vision. He actually knows what it is to be an artist himself. So he bridges that from an executive side to being an artist and we have realistic creative conversations, and they always go somewhere. I think that's the dope shyt about him.

Is there a plan to eventually bring MMG with you to Epic?

MMG is still signed to Atlantic Records, but I'm having -- we most definitely (1 :pachaha:)having different conversations. I just had a sit down over at Atlantic. Our 2016 is most definitely (2 :pachaha:) looking strong as can be. But we always, you know, out here on the business front, we looking for what's best, what's going on and what's best. We gonna stay focused on the music, but I do have my eyes open for opportunities. And L.A. is most definitely (3 :pachaha:) interested in bringing MMG over to Epic Records.

Was it tough for you to leave Def Jam after spending 10 years there?

Not at all. Not at all. It wasn't anything that was personal. We made a lot of history and we had a lot of fun. Def Jam is an iconic label. Great years at Def Jam. A lot of great friends over there, a lot of employees that I became cool and friends with, but at the end of the day, it's all about the art, and me continuing to love what I do. And there's only one way for me to continue to love what I do, and that's continuing to do new things and get bigger and better. And this was most definitely (4 :pachaha:) a bigger situation to step into.


What do you feel like Epic can do for you that Def Jam, or some of the other labels you were talking to, couldn't?

I don't really think it's about what they can do that Def Jam couldn't do. I wouldn't even want to put a quote out in such a way. Like I said, it's all about the visions and the plans, and L.A. Reid, I feel me and his relationship supersedes anything else. So if I have a vision or a plan -- if I wanted to film a movie with this next project -- if that was it, I could see down and creatively make some strong points, and I believe I can get that done. And those are the different things, just having that type of relationship. At the end of the day, I believe it's the business relationship, the speaking relationship that's formed. And you know, it's time to go get it.

What are your first plans with Epic?

I'm close to a year not being overseas; I was on house arrest this whole last album. The promo I did was really limited. I may have had one month where I could actually go do limited radio runs, and so on and so forth. But you know, it was cool. But I want to be able to move and go back international, go overseas. With the next project we're gonna touch those overseas markets, all those other markets that have been missing me for such a long time. You know, we just gonna continue to build on that. As far as the music and everything else, I got that sewed up. I just need to build it to concentrate more on the things that they do.

So are you looking at setting up a tour? What do you have planned now for 2016?

In 2016, I'm back in the studio already recording some new material. I want to hold off on actually touring until I can tour the way I want to without restrictions, without possibly having to cancel a date due to a potential court date. So we're doing spot dates now where everything is cool, and we're ready to just get this legal situation behind us. But all the requests for us are there to go to all these different places and put the tours together. But I just want to do it right. We got a little time, we just did our new situation, and by the time the summer come around we should be able to go into full gear.
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His albums may not be selling well, but don't be mistake, Ross could sell out an 80 show nationwide tour easily :whoa:

it's hard to say what Ross popularity is. Social media followers doesn't equal popularity. only artists who are selling out shows are Jay, Nas, Kanye, Drake, Cole, Wayne, Kendrick and Eminem. Maybe Wiz. Not sure Ross is on that level. I would compare Ross to the Game. Game isnt selling records like he used to but he has a strong fanbase. Ross is smart to get that overseas money
 

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Ross' run is over though..

nikka has been using gimmicks to sell his music and the quality of the music has dipped.

What happened to Maybach Music 5 jawn with Bobby Womack (RIP)?? What happened to the moving scoring production??

I hope he gets focused again. I had high hopes after Black Dollar but Black Market felt l like a poor attempt at capitalizing off of the social ills impacting our community right now. Like his version of TPAB but a low quality version

I need hungry Ross


Breh you tripping....Ross run might be over as far as him selling records, but you might be the only ross fan on earth that thinks the quality of the music has dipped
 

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Breh you tripping....Ross run might be over as far as him selling records, but you might be the only ross fan on earth that thinks the quality of the music has dipped


His music on the last album sounds uninspired.

You know I love Ross' music but compare Black Market to Black Dollar and the throwaway jawns leading into the album.. Babies Cry and Burried in the Streets sounds light years better than Color Money, Carol City, and Dope feat Future

It's like history repeated itself with Ross. Rich Forever was the original GFID. The actual retail release of the album wasn't better than Rich Forever. Black Dollar came out of no where and was crazy. Black Market was hyped and underwhelming.

Where is Maybach Music 5 with Bobby Womack?
 
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