Right wing propaganda runs rampant on social media. They are adept at getting their message out. How do we counter?

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It's not venting, it's complaining. Right wingers do it on everything. You watch a video about how to cook pasta correctly and some fakkit right winger is in the comments complaining.

The left is definitely losing the online battle, but a majority of the content that is just content comes from left wing people who are just doing it to do it.

Like a left wing guy will do calisthenics, or play guitar, and it's just a video about calisthenics or playing guitar. A right winger will do it and he has to show the America flag in the background or wear a shirt, say some slick shyt "libs can't do this work out!" Like dude just shut the fukk up and do pushups or play a scale.

That's the thing we don't know if the silent dude is left wing. The right sprinkles that stuff in and it works for them. I ask nikkas for.left wing hobby content and just get walls of text and no links. This is the issue lol
 

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What about the white female left voters? They hate the truth and cannot deal with brashness.
White women are ruled by fear. They'll come around to the left regardless unless some guy is moving them away from there. They may not take part in the media as often but they will vote left because they fear the right more. If the media becomes big and trendy enough, they will put up with it whether they like it or not.
 

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White women are ruled by fear. They'll come around to the left regardless unless some guy is moving them away from there. They may not take part in the media as often but they will vote left because they fear the right more. If the media becomes big and trendy enough, they will put up with it whether they like it or not.

2016: 52% of white women voted for Donald Trump, while 43% supported Hillary Clinton.

2020:55% of white women voting for Trump and 43% for Joe Biden.

2024: 53% of white women voted for Donald Trump, while 46% supported Kamala Harris.

Idk man. Though not much more than half are supporting the right.
 

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The real truth is the Dems didn’t realize that the landscape changed.

I actually heard a breh on YT discussing this and I think he was on point:
Politicians have always lied. Republicans just used the internet to push their propaganda while Democrats completely ignored the new playing field. Democrats needed to fight fire with fire and lie like the Republicans to capture the idiotic voters, and then just do what they needed to do after beating Trump.

Obama’s team utilized the internet/social media and that was a big part of why he won. Instead of following that lead, Dems let Republicans get a stronghold in the online world.


Ppl called it out, but waaaay too late.
All the “redpill”, MMA community, etc…..all that stuff was a pipeline to republican/conservative values, which would lead them to more online spaces that eventually created and fortified the republican base.

Democrats should’ve been funding their own left wing social media personalities.

Charlie Kirk, etc— these guys are NOT organic. They are funded and given scripts/topics to push.

Democrats are playing an old game.

There’s supposed to be a Left “Charlie Kirk”, “Joe Rogan”, “Jordan Peterson”, etc.


They were still trying to trot Joe Biden out there when Trump was sitting in the cut working with his ppl to drop a fukking meme coin. :deadrose:
And it’s absolutely ridiculous that he was able to do it and get away with it!!— but it’s the mere fact that his ppl were even that far ahead in terms of utilizing what is popular and connecting with different sectors….

Dems are just behind in every way.


Get on the internet with your own propaganda and lie to the ppl. That is where we are. Then get in office and pursue whatever agenda you believe is best for the country.

The ppl are clearly too dumb to know what they are voting for. Those of us who get it are out numbered by the ppl who couldn’t see what a threat Trump was.


Once you see that the ppl find someone like Trump appealing, you have to meet them where they are. :manny:

The other major aspect of this is that our society is becoming so insular and non-social that very large groups of people base their support/interest/love/hate/obsession/etc with public figures on how much they identify with them. Feeling like a public figure could be your friend or someone you'd hang out with is massive. Liberals understand this when it's time to market films, television, music, etc. That's why cultural journalism has largely been replaced by putting a celebrity on a show where they eat hot wings or play with dogs/cats while answering questions. Obama and his team understood this masterfully which is why he was always on the cutting edge of this stuff. But when your president is an 80+ year old man who has social barriers (stutter, clumsy talker, etc) you can't utilize that.

A lot of right wing content is based on this too. Young white men want public figures who go to the gym, eat meat, believe in conspiracies, etc. A major aspect of Rogan is getting celebs on to promote shyt while sharing whatever nonsense they believe about dragons being real or lizard people. It's the right wing version of liberal celebs talking about having a trans cousin or veganism.

In short there are plenty of ways for democrats to get on large platforms and talk about shyt. They also continue to have a monopoly on the most popular celebrities/musicians. Trump still has to trot out Kid Rock while democrats get Taylor Swift. So I don't think platforms are why they lost. It was way more about prices. Which is why Trump is sinking as we speak despite having the monopoly on social media/podcast discourse. The biggest platform in the word doesn't change the fact that eggs are $15.
 

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Truthfully, I really really REALLY respect what Burr is doing.


Big part of the problem is that Dems are bytch made.
Burr sees what we all see- Dems don’t know how to fight back.

I said it before- we need someone on our side who can be loud and obnoxious and tell it like it is. THAT is how you’re going to level the playing field and regain attention from the voters you lost.

He’s basically making himself a target for the Right, but because of his brashness he can give it as much as he gets it. And those white male voters they lost will do a double take because he’s bringing energy the left isn’t bringing.
I think Jasmine Crockett is doing a great job of keeping it real with the bullshyt that's going on. She doesn't bite her tongue. AOC as well. Bernie, but he's getting older.

Burr is doing a great job, and he's definitely a threat because he can appeal to the same crowd as Rogan, without pandering to white male rage.
 

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2016: 52% of white women voted for Donald Trump, while 43% supported Hillary Clinton.

2020:55% of white women voting for Trump and 43% for Joe Biden.

2024: 53% of white women voted for Donald Trump, while 46% supported Kamala Harris.

Idk man. Though not much more than half are supporting the right.
Yeah but how many of those women were single and how may had a boyfriend that influenced them? A lot of women tend to vote however their man does, especially if they are married. I think more should be done to look into that honestly.
 

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It's not venting, it's complaining. Right wingers do it on everything. You watch a video about how to cook pasta correctly and some fakkit right winger is in the comments complaining.

The left is definitely losing the online battle, but a majority of the content that is just content comes from left wing people who are just doing it to do it.

Like a left wing guy will do calisthenics, or play guitar, and it's just a video about calisthenics or playing guitar. A right winger will do it and he has to show the America flag in the background or wear a shirt, say some slick shyt "libs can't do this work out!" Like dude just shut the fukk up and do pushups or play a scale.

Post some fly left wing shyt

What @Wildin is saying. Some of the largest video game streamers in the world are anti Trump or liberals. You'll rarely hear them talk about politics out of fear losing viewers or they simply have better shyt to talk about.

Its the same in sports, hypebeast (full of homos btw), and lifestyle circles. The biggest celebs are liberal but they come out with it outside of fundraising events, if ever.

On other hand, we have right wingers that make a podcast about repairing used cars but will randomly shyt on libs after talking about how they hate EVs. Viewership gets a bump. That snowballs into shytting on green deal legislation and the kind of people who make purchasing decisions based on environmental protections and how that ruins blue class mechanics......until the president starts glazing Elon on tv. Now they pivot glazing Tesla. I had to drop this old cac for this stupid shyt.

Right wingers create spaces to do dope shyt yet set aside time to complain about shyt. Left wingers tend to create spaces specifically to complain about shyt or create spaces to do dope shyt.


Hasanabi appears to be the left wing exception. He a rich leftist hypebeast to a T, he's a gamer, with LA/Miami/international fashion connects, he moves in LA socialite circles, he regularly gives dating advice (used to fukk and date models and pornstars), he regularly balls with celebs or retired ballers yet spends 10 hrs a day complaining about the Right.....and Democrats. He does more flyer shyt than most of those bubbles in the OP, red or blue yet he still gets dwarfed. Its his audience. He openly mocks, bans and taunts the type of white boys who listen to Rogan, Sharipo or the brilliant idiots.

I mean Lebron is one of the dopest athletes in the world, with a massive following (despite being a shyt player) and his podcast didn't make the cut. But we know where he stan it comes to Trump.
 

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What @Wildin is saying. Some of the largest video game streamers in the world are anti Trump or liberals. You'll rarely hear them talk about politics out of fear losing viewers or they simply have better shyt to talk about.

Its the same in sports, hypebeast (full of homos btw), and lifestyle circles. The biggest celebs are liberal but they come out with it outside of fundraising events, if ever.

On other hand, we have right wingers that make a podcast about repairing used cars but will randomly shyt on libs after talking about how they hate EVs. Viewership gets a bump. That snowballs into shytting on green deal legislation and the kind of people who make purchasing decisions based on environmental protections and how that ruins blue class mechanics......until the president starts glazing Elon on tv. Now they pivot glazing Tesla. I had to drop this old cac for this stupid shyt.

Right wingers create spaces to do dope shyt yet set aside time to complain about shyt. Left wingers tend to create spaces specifically to complain about shyt or create spaces to do dope shyt.


Hasanabi appears to be the left wing exception. He a rich leftist hypebeast to a T, he's a gamer, with LA/Miami/international fashion connects, he moves in LA socialite circles, he regularly gives dating advice (used to fukk and date models and pornstars), he regularly balls with celebs or retired ballers yet spends 10 hrs a day complaining about the Right.....and Democrats. He does more flyer shyt than most of those bubbles in the OP, red or blue yet he still gets dwarfed. Its his audience. He openly mocks, bans and taunts the type of white boys who listen to Rogan, Sharipo or the brilliant idiots.

I mean Lebron is one of the dopest athletes in the world, with a massive following (despite being a shyt player) and his podcast didn't make the cut. But we know where he stan it comes to Trump.

Rich leftist Hypebeast. These don't sound like.positives. I'm from NT, Hypebeast was never a positive term or used by folks who shape the culture.
 
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Not only did I see NONE of this shyt you're talking about

but as a grown man, I could never get so into my feelings that I vote against my own interests.

Ironically, voting against the left because they made you feel bad is very feminine behavior.



You can't decide what's in his best interest though. He's supposed to tell you that.
 
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