Right wing propaganda runs rampant on social media. They are adept at getting their message out. How do we counter?

[Gritsngravy]

I remember when the alt right popped off, mfs was on tv talking about killing off black people with no consequences, joe Rogan was one of the main dudes who gave them a platform, and he got a 100 million from Spotify, dude who cocreated vice news the same dude who did that vlog in North Korea was alt right i remember when Ben Shapiro and others including cnn tried to defend Trayvon martin being murdered, similar to Mike brown, I remember when Alex jones (william cooper said he was a cia operative decades ago) went from being a conspiracy gov dude straight to an anti black when Obama was elected, speaking of Hilary Clinton started a lot of the anti Obama shyt, and its other shyt that happened

But I say all that to say I’m not trying to hear shyt from anyone in media cause they let it ride and now they complaining

 

[O.Red]

Most left wing shyt comes off as judgemental shame shyt lol. Who wants to kill time listening to that?

Can't talk about fly shyt cause it's poison capitalism

As a man can't talk dating because it's misagany unless a woman gives you orders to speak

Can't talk sports cause it's hyper masculine

Can't talk cars cause it's killing the environment

Can't talk gaming cause it's incel shyt

/thread

 

[b. woods]

What @Wildin is saying. Some of the largest video game streamers in the world are anti Trump or liberals. You'll rarely hear them talk about politics out of fear losing viewers or they simply have better shyt to talk about.

Its the same in sports, hypebeast (full of homos btw), and lifestyle circles. The biggest celebs are liberal but they come out with it outside of fundraising events, if ever.

On other hand, we have right wingers that make a podcast about repairing used cars but will randomly shyt on libs after talking about how they hate EVs. Viewership gets a bump. That snowballs into shytting on green deal legislation and the kind of people who make purchasing decisions based on environmental protections and how that ruins blue class mechanics......until the president starts glazing Elon on tv. Now they pivot glazing Tesla. I had to drop this old cac for this stupid shyt.

Right wingers create spaces to do dope shyt yet set aside time to complain about shyt. Left wingers tend to create spaces specifically to complain about shyt or create spaces to do dope shyt.


Hasanabi appears to be the left wing exception. He a rich leftist hypebeast to a T, he's a gamer, with LA/Miami/international fashion connects, he moves in LA socialite circles, he regularly gives dating advice (used to fukk and date models and pornstars), he regularly balls with celebs or retired ballers yet spends 10 hrs a day complaining about the Right.....and Democrats. He does more flyer shyt than most of those bubbles in the OP, red or blue yet he still gets dwarfed. Its his audience. He openly mocks, bans and taunts the type of white boys who listen to Rogan, Sharipo or the brilliant idiots.

I mean Lebron is one of the dopest athletes in the world, with a massive following (despite being a shyt player) and his podcast didn't make the cut. But we know where he stan it comes to Trump.

 

[Apollo Creed]

they hijacked online popular science as well. they are either right or factual. not left.

Yeah that's what I'm arguing. With everything there are right wing bread crumbs to lead you down that rabbit hole. You don't really see that if anything on theefy

 

[Json]

Trump changed the narrative in this country....when he bothsided the issue in Charlottesville....good people on both sides....that instantly gave the cacs a free pass to change this country and they have for the worst in many aspects....just look at the stock market that will crash again this week and my 401 k

I’m just starting to theorize why Trump is so popular and I think he’s actually more “normal” than we think.

Kind of like how Europe was mostly at war with each other the past three centuries until America basically stepped in post WW2 and became defacto big brother and it’s basically been just Russia.

American politics pre-WW1 was a lot nastier. Backroom dealings with poltiicans and barons was the norm. The stuff we’ve been doing since at least Roosevelt is kinda abnormal.

I think that’s part of what has the Dems on the backfoot cause we haven’t done that style of politics in so long. But it’s why it’s so hard to bring down Trump’s GOP popularity

 

[null]

Yeah that's what I'm arguing. With everything there are right wing bread crumbs to lead you down that rabbit hole. You don't really see that if anything on theefy

not only that. if you leave youtube running it will push you in the direction of certain creators.

i see it with soccer and politics.

soccer pushes me in the direction of creh (man utd) channels .. never breh channels, although i mainly watch breh channels.

politics .. if you leave it running long enough eventually some right wing nut's video is going to start playing.

i suppose that is what makes tiktok's alg better

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

most sane people understand that there needs to be an opposing view
the problem is the loudest voices on the left are always hollering about palestine or trans-rights....or some other shyt that people dont care about

regular people while they sympathize with palestinians and trans-folk are more concerned about feeding and housing their own families....THAT'S what they want to hear about....

and that's what the right does so well....even if they dont really care about the plight of the regular american...they make the regular american FEEL like they do....this is exactly why trump got reelected...

the left was too busy making jokes and trying to prove how much smarter they are than trump (just look at the laughing memes with hilary clinton and kamala....mind you ...the people that trump BEAT)

 

[Won Won]

Can't talk about fly shyt cause it's poison capitalism

As a man can't talk dating because it's misagany unless a woman gives you orders to speak

Can't talk sports cause it's hyper masculine

Can't talk cars cause it's killing the environment

Can't talk gaming cause it's incel shyt

This might be the softest shyt I've ever read

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

I’m just starting to theorize why Trump is so popular and I think he’s actually more “normal” than we think.

Kind of like how Europe was mostly at war with each other the past three centuries until America basically stepped in post WW2 and became defacto big brother and it’s basically been just Russia.

American politics pre-WW1 was a lot nastier. Backroom dealings with poltiicans and barons was the norm. The stuff we’ve been doing since at least Roosevelt is kinda abnormal.

I think that’s part of what has the Dems on the backfoot cause we haven’t done that style of politics in so long. But it’s why it’s so hard to bring down Trump’s GOP popularity

great point....

he's not and thats the beauty of trump....

he's convinced a huge block of the population that he is normal though....

dude is a trust fund baby....what do hell does he have in common with somebody scraping by on minimum wage is west virginia?

 

[O.Red]

The problem with "the left needs a Rogan" is none of you are serious. It's like saying I wanna build a fire but I hate chopping wood

For one the left tries to police behavior too much. They can't have a Rogan because he wouldn't be able to talk to anyone This is what happens when your party is run by belligerent feminists. And yes feminist white women run the left(this is the lefts biggest issue honestly)

Rogan's audience is painted as right wing but everyone from all walks of life listen to Rogan. You don't have the numbers he does just having one political base.

Why does Rogan have such a varied base? The nikka talks to everyone. Everyone. Comedians, fighters, politicians, directors, whoever. He had Trump on but he also had Bernie. Nikkas told y'all Kamala was an idiot for not going on and the response was why the fukk would Kamala do that? "

And then you find out Kamala could've been on, but she wanted to dictate the location and terms Again with elitist leftists running around telling everyone what to do. Meanwhile Trump just pulled up

The left has a huge problem meeting people where they are. Not only do you have to come to them you have to be the perfect Marxist feminist egalitarian progressive. Until you disagree with one thing then you're a both sides,facist,MAGA,misogynist, incel c00n that hates your mama

The appeal of Rogan to people is it's just a conversation. It's not a gotcha interview or a heated debate. It's two people talking for 3-5 hours. You know how valuable that is? Agree or disagree with their politics you learn a lot about a person in a 3 hour talk. Nikkas late to finding out about Elon now but if you've seen him on Rogan you BEEN knew he was an awkward megalomaniac weirdo

The left don't really want a Rogan because they're too quick to censor someone or cover their ears and pretend something isn't happening. The right lies and gaslights all these time sure, but they engage. And in these times engagement is king. That's how an entire media ecosystem was built under the lefts nose. They were sleep because they chased away anyone they could engage with

 

[The Plug]

regular people while they sympathize with palestinians and trans-folk are more concerned about feeding and housing their own families....THAT'S what they want to hear about....

Joe Rogan isn't talking about feeding & housing families, neither is Candace Owens, or Brandon Tatum, or Jordan Peterson, or Theo Von or Asmongold. Those are economics. Maybe you stumbled on the wrong thread, but the right wing influencers up there are heavily focused on culture and hobbies.

Rogan's audience is painted as right wing but everyone from all walks of life listen to Rogan.

Rogan and his audience are right wing, they're not painted as such. If 60% or more of your listeners are following one political party, and the host follows one political party, and most of your political guests are part of one political party, then you are that political party. Let's not pretend that Rogan hasn't lost some non- right wing listeners, it's why he fell down to number 2 in podcast charts.

 

[Hacksaw Jim Thuggin]

Joe Rogan isn't talking about feeding & housing families, neither is Candace Owens, or Brandon Tatum, or Jordan Peterson, or Theo Von or Asmongold. Those are economics. Maybe you stumbled on the wrong thread, but the right wing influencers up there are heavily focused on culture and hobbies.


Rogan and his audience are right wing, they're not painted as such. If 60% or more of your listeners are following one political party, and the host follows one political party, and most of your political guests are part of one political party, then you are that political party. Let's not pretend that Rogan hasn't lost some non- right wing listeners, it's why he fell down to number 2 in podcast charts.

i was talking about politics...
make no mistake...those people do A LOT of talking about politics on those podcats

 

[The Plug]

i was talking about politics...
make no mistake...those people do A LOT of talking about politics on those podcats

I know, and the point is that they get you in first with hobbies like MMA, video games, comedy, health, and more then start telling you about their right wing views.
They focus more on the cultural aspect than the economic aspect of "politics". Which is why we have foreigners like Jordan Peterson become so influential in American right wing space.

Or hell, full send is just a bunch of white boys that travel, party, and fukk bytches with their token black friend and they don't even talk about what you were referring to. They're just Republicans.

 

[skylove4]

Because the right is not only putting money into its messaging but it is a message based around grievances. The whole idea is that the listener is the victim of outside forces that are oppressing them. The left used to be good at this messaging but has become the face of finger-wagging lgbt shyt and so on. People don't want to be talked down to, especially about something like that.

That and a lot of people that consume any kind of media like edgy shyt.

What, talked down to You mean they don’t want to hear truths only lies and vibes .

 

[focusloco]

I’m just starting to theorize why Trump is so popular and I think he’s actually more “normal” than we think.

Kind of like how Europe was mostly at war with each other the past three centuries until America basically stepped in post WW2 and became defacto big brother and it’s basically been just Russia.

American politics pre-WW1 was a lot nastier. Backroom dealings with poltiicans and barons was the norm. The stuff we’ve been doing since at least Roosevelt is kinda abnormal.

I think that’s part of what has the Dems on the backfoot cause we haven’t done that style of politics in so long. But it’s why it’s so hard to bring down Trump’s GOP popularity

That is a great post....very insightful

Trump re wrote the playbook on politics...he has people... mostly Cacs but Latinos too ...that LOVE that guy in this country ...they stormed the capitol building for him and got a pardon for it...they only thing close is how the Germans loved Hitler because he told them they were the superior race