Rob Manfred is keeping baseball alive. 6 inning minimum for pitchers is on the table

[Wolfpac]

Manfred is a doctor trying to save a patient that is terminal.

The issue with MLB to me is that there is no reason to care. No stars, no records that aren't tainted to break, meaningless regular season and shytty, random playoffs.

fukking with the starting pitching isn't going to fix much.

Should reduce the number of regular season games if anything.

 

[Remote]

Source?

 

[Remote]

Manfred is a doctor trying to save a patient that is terminal.

The issue with MLB to me is that there is no reason to care. No stars, no records that aren't tainted to break, meaningless regular season and shytty, random playoffs.

fukking with the starting pitching isn't going to fix much.

There are no stars in baseball?

Yeah you just don't like baseball. That comment is so bad.

 

[tremonthustler1]

MLB is a dinosaur operation that Selig entrenched with the Good Ol' Boy network. Aaron Judge should be as big as Griffey in the 90s and he's a national afterthought.

National afterthought, but he runs NY.

MLB has just embraced being regional without really realizing it.

The bigger problem is that crappy ownership is gonna cause that to go by the wayside if they put out subpar products (Boston, Southside Chicago to be specific)

 

[tremonthustler1]

technically they not forcing them

it matter because switching pitchers slows the game. usually if the starter get pulled early there will be at least 3 or 4 changes. shyts boring af. But the main reason imo pitchers getting pulled early shyt hurts the game for a fan. thats why the minium 3 batter rule was added as well

and it's all based off fear and being mechanical. They're switching pitchers because some genius thought, the way to stay ahead of hitters is to have 6 pitchers every night throw straight gasoline. Now teams are gonna be opposed because they're afraid that if a pitcher gotta hold back and throw 94 instead of 98, that he's gonna get his lunch handed to him, not realizing that generations of pitchers didn't throw as hard as pitchers today, but were more durable, struck out more batters and won more. Teams should be jumping at the chance to have more guys able to eat innings. Those pitchers will be worth the investment, but these dweebs are so antsy and cause managers to manage like every game is Game 7 of the World Series.

I don't know if this is the way to do it, but I appreciate where the sentiment is coming from, and this is from a guy who thinks Manfred hates baseball with all his heart.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Manfred is a doctor trying to save a patient that is terminal.

The issue with MLB to me is that there is no reason to care. No stars, no records that aren't tainted to break, meaningless regular season and shytty, random playoffs.

fukking with the starting pitching isn't going to fix much.

part of that is how they're being developed. What's the difference between this and longing for the days of players playing 37-40 minutes a night 82 games a year in basketball?


You live in Atlanta. One of the exciting players in the sport plays in your backyard (when he's healthy). Part of wanting pitchers to go deeper in games is to emphasize wins for starters again. It's gonna get to a point where if a starter wins 150 games, we're gonna say that's enough for a HOF bid.

I agree that he's exciting on his merit, baseball is clueless how to market him to get casuals to watch.

I feel like we are going backwards if we start caring about SP wins again.

National afterthought, but he runs NY.

MLB has just embraced being regional without really realizing it.

The bigger problem is that crappy ownership is gonna cause that to go by the wayside if they put out subpar products (Boston, Southside Chicago to be specific)

The issue is that Major League Baseball does a horrible job of marketing the sport because most of the owners either hate baseball or don’t even pretend to have any interest. Any given year there’s 10-12 owners if not more who are tanking not to stockpile picks, but purely because they don’t feel like spending money so for half the league the season is over in June and then the rest of the year becomes about dumping salary. Markets like Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, Miami, should be thriving, but they’re all filled with team owners whose only concern is keeping operating costs down.

 

[Shadow King]

This is an idea that sounds good but does not that good

 

[Soldier]

Gotta do something to restore the feeling. Back in the day we had those real workhorses

I miss them traditional pitcher duels

 

[Windows 91]

It's funny, I was streaming the Japan national high school baseball tournament last night. They had a game end 1-0 in 10 innings, one kid threw all 10 innings 145 pitches and the other kid threw 9 1/3rd like 130 pitches, lost on the walkoff. Real Dusty Baker shyt, they'd lock a coach up over here if they tried that today

 

[broller]

Stupid idea especially when 5 innings is all it takes for a win.

Teams would never want this. Pitchers are fragile enough as is

What if they changed the rule to where you need to pitch 6 innings to get the win? I feel like that would have a big effect. Kind of like how the minimum games requirement in the NBA to win awards changed load management.

 

[mozichrome]

It seems like every pitcher at some point going to have Tommy John surgery

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Its how I do in My MLB The Show Franchise Career(If The Pitcher is Hot then he stays in past the 7-8th Inning then I call for The Closer)

 

[Cladyclad]

What if they changed the rule to where you need to pitch 6 innings to get the win? I feel like that would have a big effect. Kind of like how the minimum games requirement in the NBA to win awards changed load management.

Not really. Wins don’t matter to pitchers anymore. if we continue at the pace the game is. We may never see a 200 game winner ever again. Pitchers in this era HOF criteria would have to change. Because none of them would make it

 

[the cac mamba]

• He throws 100 pitches
• He gives up four or more earned runs
• He gets injured (with a required injured list stint to avoid manipulation)

these exceptions make it pretty reasonable, no? pitchers aren't getting pulled before these things happen anyway

maybe drop the pitch count to 85 or something

 

[Regular_P]

The issue is that Major League Baseball does a horrible job of marketing the sport because most of the owners either hate baseball or don’t even pretend to have any interest. Any given year there’s 10-12 owners if not more who are tanking not to stockpile picks, but purely because they don’t feel like spending money so for half the league the season is over in June and then the rest of the year becomes about dumping salary. Markets like Detroit, Chicago, Oakland, Miami, should be thriving, but they’re all filled with team owners whose only concern is keeping operating costs down.

All part of Selig enhancing the Good Ol' Boys network. The lack of a cap and floor is a complete joke. There should not be a $200+ million gap between the top spending teams and the bottom. It's profitable for the feeder teams that never spend to jettison off talent every few years and never pay anybody.

If SGA was a baseball player, he would have already been traded from OKC to some other destination that would pay him.

I just looked up total salaries in MLB this season on Spotrac and it says teams are spending $3.2 billion combined on players. That averages out to a little over $107 million per team. 8-9 teams are under that threshold. The NBA and MLB have generate equal revenue and the salary floor for NBA teams is $126 million in 2024-25.

It's just fukking disgraceful MLB still doesn't have a salary floor and cap.