Rock bailing on the entire Cena storyline is honestly some inexcusable shyt

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The theory of Rock “sabotaging” to make HHH look bad makes absolutely no sense. Rock is a TKO board member, if anyone has incentive to have WWE do well it would be him. They all said Rock’s appearance was added somewhat last minute at Chamber. He pitched for Cody to go heel, they opted Cena instead and they went with it. He still showed up and ran with that. Fast forward to now, look where Cody and Cena are at.. People annoyed with Cody’s title reign and screaming wow can’t believe they turned Cena heel. Was Rock right in hindsight?

I actually enjoyed Cena’s heel run because I have never been a fan of his “I’m gonna break the 4th wall and bury you on the mic kid, sink or swim” babyface promos and this gave him an excuse to do that but have it make sense. Who was screaming for years for a Cena heel turn and complained when they got it? Wrestling fans. Who wanted Cody/Roman as the main event and are now complaining because we didn’t get Rock/Roman? Wrestling fans. Who are now complaining about Cody as champion even tho that’s what they originally were campaigning for? Wrestling fans.

Creative just hasn’t been on the ball like that this year. Look at the rest of the card and the lack of real storylines this year.
 

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Blame the writers and Cripple H. The Rock dont write shyt. He wanted Cody to turn heel ..they didnt go his direction..so it was sink or swim. Obviously Cena and Cripple H dont know how to pivot. Tough shyt :yeshrug:

The mindset is strange..like Hollywood Rock needed Vince every week? Lol. Shows how limited Cena is and all this GOAT talk is str8 nonsense.
Dude, the Rock can be wrong sometimes, like you sound maniacal when you can’t call your boy out for anything. He was clearly in the wrong for this no matter how bad HHH booking decisions were
Rock wanted to turn Cody heel, HHH and Cody said no and proposed Cena, Rock said cool. Once they didn't go with his plan for WM he told HHH/Cena/Cody my work here is done and y'all have 6 weeks to cook :manny:


Was he called to re-insert himself once WM ticket sales looked slow and it became obvious the angle was drowning? Possible - but it's not hard to believe nor do I blame him for taking the "I tried, they didn't listen :hubie: " stance and staying away/not dropping his other commitments.

It’s all of them nikkas faults

I get tired of the coli bailing out the rock for some reason and putting everything on triple h

Triple h and creative team are at fault for having such shytty creative work after rock dipped out… there’s no fukking excuse for their laziness.. cena heel run could have been decent or they could have just done what they’ve been doing with him since Summerslam and the final retirement tour would have been looked at highly


The reality is the rock just wanted that one off match with Roman since he had down time and Hollywood wasn’t reaching out to him like that.

The fans wanted Roman vs Cody instead and it was the right choice… and the rock realized this and stepped back… props to him

But Hollywood came knocking back and he didn’t think twice…. It is what it is….. but his ass kept coming back teasing shyt that led to nothing and left sour taste

Everyone is at fault…. I don’t Need 40+ year old nikkas from TSC trying to Julez answers in favor of the Rock lol

It’s fukk triple h for Being a basic as fukk with booking and typical bs…. But I ain’t tryna hear from the Johnson lovers how it’s everyone fault except the rock
Here is what I think k
Cody turning heel was a bad idea simply because he wouldn’t have wanted to do it and he would not have given his best effort. You can’t just tell someone like him to put his all into something he doesn’t want to do. You have to embrace the role.

2. The rock shouldn’t have been banking on that for his comeback especially after the way 2024 played out. He should have at least attempted at having his match with Cody and then tried to turn him heel.

3. I can honestly believe that the rock never planned on working past mania last year and only really wanted the Roman match while he was champ. That’s why he made time to comeback. Because you have to remember he pitched this idea to Vince but Vince couldn’t make it work and Roman was doing ok without it.

3. Y’all are too hard on HHH it’s the classic and now played out TSC/IWC heel turn. It’s not based on facts but rather needing someone to be mad at. His booking hast been perfect but nothing I mean nothing he could have done to fix the Cena heel turn after rock bailed.

Also HHH has hired everyone y’all wanted Vince to hire. He has them all in the writers room. Heyman, Ryan ward, he even has an old Vince guy in Pritchard and Micheal Hayes. If he was to step down then who do y’all really think would come in and do better?

4. Vince was terrible and the show improved dramatically once he left. We don’t get WM 40 with Vince. We don’t get last mondays raw with Vince. Cody reign would be just as stale with Vince. Jey uso wouldn’t all of a sudden start doing cardio
LA Knight still wouldn’t be champ
The black wrestler would be in the same position under Vince. He’ll he treated the og Wyatt family the same way.

At least HHH listens to his writers and they listen to the internet the problem is we can’t agree on what we want and when we do agree on Cody we turn on him a year later and say his reign was trash.
 

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Dude, the Rock can be wrong sometimes, like you sound maniacal when you can’t call your boy out for anything. He was clearly in the wrong for this no matter how bad HHH booking decisions were



Here is what I think k
Cody turning heel was a bad idea simply because he wouldn’t have wanted to do it and he would not have given his best effort. You can’t just tell someone like him to put his all into something he doesn’t want to do. You have to embrace the role.

2. The rock shouldn’t have been banking on that for his comeback especially after the way 2024 played out. He should have at least attempted at having his match with Cody and then tried to turn him heel.

3. I can honestly believe that the rock never planned on working past mania last year and only really wanted the Roman match while he was champ. That’s why he made time to comeback. Because you have to remember he pitched this idea to Vince but Vince couldn’t make it work and Roman was doing ok without it.

3. Y’all are too hard on HHH it’s the classic and now played out TSC/IWC heel turn. It’s not based on facts but rather needing someone to be mad at. His booking hast been perfect but nothing I mean nothing he could have done to fix the Cena heel turn after rock bailed.

Also HHH has hired everyone y’all wanted Vince to hire. He has them all in the writers room. Heyman, Ryan ward, he even has an old Vince guy in Pritchard and Micheal Hayes. If he was to step down then who do y’all really think would come in and do better?

4. Vince was terrible and the show improved dramatically once he left. We don’t get WM 40 with Vince. We don’t get last mondays raw with Vince. Cody reign would be just as stale with Vince. Jey uso wouldn’t all of a sudden start doing cardio
LA Knight still wouldn’t be champ
The black wrestler would be in the same position under Vince. He’ll he treated the og Wyatt family the same way.

At least HHH listens to his writers and they listen to the internet the problem is we can’t agree on what we want and when we do agree on Cody we turn on him a year later and say his reign was trash.
The Rock can be wrong sometimes? Hick fans have to want to be educated at some point. Every Rock return or story really since 2000 have been winners. Helped Hurricane? Helped Booker T. How that work? They buried both. Put Goldberg over? How that work? Loses in the EC Chamber for no reason. Saved WM 27-29. Gave Ronda a hot start at WM 31. What happened? Did he need to babysit her too before she flamed out? Put over Wyatt at WM 32 and they still made him a big talking loser who became friends with Alexa Bliss? Lol.
He shined the most with full time performers leading to WM 40.

Done interviews telling the dumbest of fans he wanted a Cody payoff story but they turned Cena heel and didn't know to score a home run afterwards.

All this really did was expose how limited Cena is..because Cripple H hasn't had any good stories or pushes all year except Iyo Sky and Stephanie Vaquer.

White boys are bashing Jade Cargill every fukking day angry she went over boring ass Stratton..calling for her release, saying she cant wrestle, etc.

How is Rock responsible for the mediocrity of the WWE? and heres another reality..just because Cena does longer matches and kicks out of everything..it dont make them good matches at all. You shouldn't have to be told this at this juncture.
 

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Cody didnt want to turn heel? Who gives a fukk. Is he the boss now? Whats going on here? You want it one way but its the other way. Silly.
 

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Isn't Rock a board member of TKO? Why does he have to listen to Triple H for booking decisions regarding his own storylines?

Both of them point fingers at each other when in reality they're both self serving egomaniacs.
What does Cena have to do with the Rock's storyline? His story was about Cody. He was just there for Cena turning heel...it wasn't no new faction..lol
 

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So the Rock is producing and running the WWE now? Lol. If that's true...why isn't Nia champion right now? Why isn't Ava utterly dominating screen time on NXT?
According to you specifically Rock is in charge and is HHH boss and can do whatever he wants

So…you tell me why is he letting his show turn to shyt?
 

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After seeing skinny Rock I understand why he disappeared. And I dont understand why they did the story like that. Its easy to blame the biggest star (and the black man) but fukk that it was poor planning and execution. You know his focus is Hollywood and frankly you shouldnt be dependent on a 50 yr old part timer.
 
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Rock is HHH's boss. How are y'all forgetting that for some reason now?

This is technically true but The Rock is not involved in everyday operations of the company at all. It would be a bad look for him to parachute in and start telling the creative department what to do. Plus, does he even want to be involved at that level? He has a million things going on in Hollywood, I doubt very much he wants to be making creative decisions for a company that he's barely around.

It's a known fact that Ari was the one who called The Rock in for 'Elimination Chamber' because the tickets weren't moving. From there, it's all speculative. We know there were some plans and the plans were scrapped but how can we put the blame on The Rock when we don't know what was pitched or what was turned down, etc. ?
 
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This is technically true but The Rock is not involved in everyday operations of the company at all. It would be a bad look for him to parachute in and start telling the creative department what to do. Plus, does he even want to be involved at that level? He has a million things going on in Hollywood, I doubt very much he wants to be making creative decisions for a company that he's barely around.

It's a known fact that Ari was the one who called The Rock in for 'Elimination Chamber' because the tickets weren't moving. From there, it's all speculative. We know there were some plans and the plans were scrapped but how can we put the blame on The Rock when we don't know what was pitched or what was turned down, etc. ?
I have an incredibly hard time believing rock is not involved with the day to day operations of his own story.

Regarding EC, true…but once there he should’ve stuck with the story for sure. He curates his own character and didnt have to be there regularly…he really should’ve commited to even a few sattelite gigs for storytelling.
 
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