Roger Stone Wants Donald Trump to Arrest and Perp-Walk Barack Obama

[Professor Emeritus]

Okay, David caught me in my first lie. I said I wouldn't respond again, but I will make ONE more response to cover up more of his lies.

"I find it hard to believe that in this environment people don't know that eating fast food is not healthy. Most people seem to know if they're overweight, and that hasn't seemed to change their behaviors. Obese people certainly know that their weight is increasing their risk of poor health—they actually overestimate the mortality risks of obesity. I think information alone is not going to change people's behavior and get them to lose weight."

- Dr. Eric Finkelstein of Duke University's Global Health Institute, who apparently doesn't know as much about health as David_theMan.

"Dr. Finkelstein is Professor of Health Services and Systems Research Program at the Duke-NUS Medical School and the Executive Director of the Lien Centre for Palliative Care. He also holds appointments at NUS School of Public Health and Duke University Global Health Institute. His research focuses on the economic causes and consequences of health behaviors."

Not trying to argue anything, its simply a fact.
I posted the info that, was scientific, that confirmed what I said. Period.
You posted shyt from propaganda sites, not scientific peer reviewed studies.

Complete, absolute lie. I posted this study from the New England Journal of Medicine, which included the following paragraph full of cites from other scientific peer-reviewed studies:

"Obesity is a multisystem condition associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, cancer, and other complications.21,22

The effect of body weight on mortality has been studied extensively. In a study of more than a million U.S. adults, the lowest death rates were found among men with a BMI of 23.5 to 24.9 and among women with a BMI of 22.0 to 23.4. Death rates from cardiovascular diseases were substantially elevated among people with higher BMIs.

A prospective study of 6139 subjects in Germany found the greatest obesity-associated excess mortality to be among the young24 — the standardized mortality ratio for people 18 to 29 years of age with a BMI of 40 or over was 4.2 in men and 3.8 in women.

Fontaine et al. estimated the effect of obesity on years of life lost across the lifespan of adults.25 For any degree of excessive body weight, young age was associated with greater years of life lost.

Allison et al. used data from six cohort studies in the United States to determine that obesity causes approximately 300,000 deaths per year,26

Being overweight in childhood increases the risk among men of death from any cause and death from cardiovascular disease; it also increases the risk of cardiovascular morbidity among both men and women.28

The lifetime risk of diabetes among people born in the United States has risen rapidly to 30 to 40 percent — a phenomenon presumably attributable to the obesity “epidemic.”29 Having diabetes in adulthood increases the risk of a heart attack by as much as having had a previous heart attack,30 and the life-shortening effect of diabetes is approximately 13 years.31

Evidence also suggests that at younger ages, disability rates have risen and fitness levels have declined dramatically in the United States, with both trends attributed, at least in part, to the rise in obesity.32,33

The incidence of type 2 diabetes in childhood in the United States has increased many times over in the past two decades, an increase that is due almost entirely to the obesity epidemic34,35; shockingly, life-threatening complications, including renal failure, may develop by young adulthood in at least 10 percent of children with type 2 diabetes.36

If left unchecked, the rising prevalence of obesity that has already occurred in the past 30 years is expected to lead to an elevated risk of a range of fatal and nonfatal conditions for these cohorts as they age.29

If the prevalence of obesity continues to rise, especially at younger ages, the negative effect on health and longevity in the coming decades could be much worse. It is not possible to predict exactly when obesity among the young will have its largest negative effect on life expectancy. However, in the absence of successful interventions, it seems likely that it will be in the first half of this century, when at-risk populations reach the ages of greatest vulnerability.

Obesity has been shown to have a substantial negative effect on longevity, reducing the length of life of people who are severely obese by an estimated 5 to 20 years.25

Although the life-shortening effect of obesity is evident for people who are obese, its negative effect on the future life expectancy of the population is also critically important to public policy."


You have been completely, utterly, OWNED.


My other links were two New York Times articles, one of which was summarizing another report in the New England Journal of Medicine. Not a "propaganda site", you liar.

IThey are all postulations, but none are actually testing on the data of if Obesity is linked to an increase in mortality, like the studies I have posted, two scientific peer reviewed studies.

Absolutely false, as proven in that wall of studies right above.

Also, of your two studies, one was about HDFC and had nothing to do with anything, and the other said there was a U-shaped curve with obesity leading to higher mortality.

On top of that again, none of the links you posted were scientific, except the one regarding smoking and obesity, and like the other one you posted, merely was talking about its projection of obesity on life expectancy forecasting models, not actual investigation into if obesity itself caused an increase in mortality, like the studies I posted.

What kind of insane lie is that?

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMsa0900459

A scientific paper from the New England Journal of Medicine which cites NUMEROUS studies linking obesity to poorer life expectancy.

"Estimates suggest that obesity accounts for 5 to 15% of deaths each year in the United States2-5"

"In the analyses of the risks of death associated with BMI and smoking, mortality was higher among current smokers and those with a higher BMI (consistent with the findings by Flegal and colleagues).3"

"Although adverse behavioral risk factors cannot be completely eliminated, even modest weight loss35 and reductions in smoking at the individual level12 can have substantial effects on population health. Research has shown the clinical efficacy of several interventions in achieving smoking cessation36 and weight control.35,37-39"

"addressing the roots of obesity, which include sedentary lifestyles, the widespread availability of high-calorie food in large portions, and reduced time for the preparation of food at home.32,42-45"



Obesity in adulthood and its consequences for life expectancy

A scientific, peer-reviewed study in the Annals of Internal Medicine

"Large decreases in life expectancy were associated with overweight and obesity. Forty-year-old female nonsmokers lost 3.3 years and 40-year-old male nonsmokers lost 3.1 years of life expectancy because of overweight. Forty-year-old female nonsmokers lost 7.1 years and 40-year-old male nonsmokers lost 5.8 years because of obesity. Obese female smokers lost 7.2 years and obese male smokers lost 6.7 years of life expectancy compared with normal-weight smokers. Obese female smokers lost 13.3 years and obese male smokers lost 13.7 years compared with normal-weight nonsmokers."



Obesity could 'rob you' of 20 years of health - Health News - NHS Choices

Refers to a scientific, peer-reviewed study in The Lancet

"Very obese men aged 20 to 39, with a BMI of 35 or above, have a reduced life expectancy of eight years."



Obesity Found to Reduce Life Expectancy | Adelaide Bariatric Centre

Another scientific, peer-reviewed study in The Lanclet

"The study shows a strong positive correlation between unhealthy BMI and increased mortality rates in every global region within the study’s scope. The risk of premature death increases by around one third for every increase in the BMI unit above the overweight range as suggested by the World Health Organization."



Obesity and Life Expectancy with and without Diabetes in Adults Aged 55 Years and Older in the Netherlands: A Prospective Cohort Study

A scientific, peer-reviewed study in PLoS Medicine

"Obesity in the middle aged and elderly is associated with a reduction in the number of years lived free of diabetes and an increase in the number of years lived with diabetes. Those extra years lived with morbidity might place a high toll on individuals and health care systems."



NIH study finds extreme obesity may shorten life expectancy up to 14 years

Another scientific, peer-reviewed study in PLoS Medicine

" The study, led by researchers from the National Cancer Institute (NCI), part of the National Institutes of Health, found that people with class III (or extreme) obesity had a dramatic reduction in life expectancy compared with people of normal weight. "



Even After Weight Loss, Obesity Can Reduce Life Span

A scientific, peer-reviewed study in PNAS

"Among the people in the study, those who had ever been overweight were 19 percent more likely to die during the 23-year study period, compared with those who had never exceeded normal weight.

Those who had ever been obese (with a body mass index, or BMI, from 30.0 to 34.9) were 65 percent more likely to die during the study than those who had never exceeded normal weight. And those who had ever been severely obese (with a BMI of 35.0 or above) were nearly 150 percent more likely to die during this time period than those who remained in the normal weight range."



Study: Obesity cuts life expectancy by up to 10 years | News | DW | 14.07.2016

Another scientific, peer-reviewed Lancelet study:

"On average, overweight people lose about one year of life expectancy, and moderately obese people lose about three years of life expectancy. Severely obese people lose about 10 years of life expectancy."



Being overweight at 40 can shorten your life | Daily Mail Online

Another scientific, peer-reviewed study from the Annals of Internal Medicine

"They concluded that being obese or overweight in adulthood decreases life expectancy as much as smoking."




https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090319224823.htm

Another scientific, peer-reviewed Lancelet study:

"A new analysis of almost one million people from around the world has shown that obesity can trim years off life expectancy. Moderate obesity, which is now common, reduces life expectancy by about 3 years, and that severe obesity, which is still uncommon, can shorten a person's life by 10 years."

Post a study that shows eating fast food causes people to eat more calories
You won't find it linked to fast food more than sugary drinks, which is supposed to be linked to, guess it? High fructose corn syrup, and guess what, I linked you to the medical paper that shows there is no scientific evidence to support that claim.

January 2013 study in JAMA Pediatrics shows that fast food (and other restaurants) leads to adolescents eating more calories.

No Sweat, York | Study: Fast food leads to more calories for adolescents, kids


August 2014 study in Public Health Nutrition shows that adults eat about 200 more calories when they go for fast food than when they eat at home.

Restaurants, fast food cost you 200 extra calories - CNN.com



2011 lifetime tracking study in the New England Journal of Medicine and 2015 tracking study in Health Affairs shows that eating more junk food leads to yearly weight gain.

Are Junk Food Habits Driving Obesity? A Tale Of Two Studies

 

[Professor Emeritus]

I specifically addressed your contention that fast food caused weight gain by making them eat too many calories, you did claim that it caused your body to disrupt the body in signaling that its full. Remeber when you wrote this?

That is you claiming fast food does what I wrote. Now again the argument some present scientifically is that this is because of HFCS, I simply addressed the supposed culprit and showed you scientific evidence doesn't support the contention that Fast food or pre-packaged food does what you claim.

I can't believe your reading comprehension is still this bad.

HFCS is not the "supposed culprit" for ANYTHING that I said. I said that there was a high calorie-to-bulk ratio, that there were many nutrients missing that your body still needs, and that you tend to stuff in more calories when you're not at home. NONE of that has anything to do with HFCS.

You can't refute my arguments by posting a study that refutes someone else's completely unrelated argument.


It's like if I said, "Trump is a terrible decision maker because he is narcissistic, poorly educated on the issues, and relies too much on his own family".

And you reply, "Look, Trump doesn't have dementia, I'll prove it!"

I say, "But I never said that Trump had dementia."

And your retort is, "Yeah, but some people blame his bad decision-making on dementia, and that's the culprit I can prove wrong."

The only thign I did admit was that I didn't know DeLorenzo was a neoconfederate, and I apoogized for that, but the content stayed the same and you left the thread with no substance to back up what you said.

No, you NEVER admitted or apologized for that, here is the page where we discuss DeLorenzo, show me one place where you admit and apologize.

Your only reply when I exposed you was "I don't care who Tom is associated with", you never once apologized for being wrong about DeLorenzo...You never apologized for not knowing that DeLorenzo was a NeoConfederate

You are right, I got into a convo about Dilorenzo at another site, when I didn't know.
Yeah looking back nothing to apologize for in our conversation on this site.

So now you admit that you already knew that DeLorenzo was a NeoConfederate BEFORE our conversation.

You admit to knowingly caping for NeoConfederate arguments.

AND you implicitly are admitting that you were only pretending not to know that he was associated with NeoConfederates, when now you state that someone else had already told you this.

INo what I cited is from a CDC scientist, which is why I literally post the exact words from the CDC scientist describing her own study, that you simply refuse to read.


Actually there is no connection between obesity and mortality because the other side of the U, with rates of mortality just as high as the obese are the underweight population. You know the opposite of obesity.

The fact that morbidly obese people and anorexic people both die young does NOT prove that obesity isn't connected to death.

It just shows that being too fat AND being too thin is bad.

The fact that being too thin kills you doesn't somehow make up for the fact that being too fat also kills you.

I don't have to argue for anyone. I literally respond to what you typed.
You claim you are quoting what I said, you don't quote what I say, you quote the title for a article I posted.

You lied, the funny part is I then quote for you what I actually wrote in that post. LOL

Literally ANYONE can read the thread and see that the thread title is the exact claim you are arguing. How did I lie? You are dense.

Obamacare has led to a increase in US death rate



And your Cornell study has been rebutted multiple times - they used fat people's SELF REPORTS of how often they ate junk food, and a lot of those fat people were trying to lose weight, meaning that they got fat BEFORE the study, not during the study, so the study didn't prove anything at all about how they got fat.

"Eric Finkelstein, an associate professor at the Duke Global Health Institute at Duke University, notes that the data the Cornell researchers used is only a snapshot of what a cross-section of Americans were eating at a single moment in time. So it's possible, for example, that the overweight and obese people included in the study reported eating less junk foods because they were trying to lose weight.

"I'd lend a lot more credence to studies that follow change [in eating habits and weight] over time," Finkelstein tells The Salt."

Are Junk Food Habits Driving Obesity? A Tale Of Two Studies


"There’s another problem with the conclusion that soda and fast food don’t cause obesity – the cause and effect relationship could easily be misunderstood. In real life, dietary habits can cause health problems, but health problems can also cause people to change their diets."

"Think of it this way. People whose doctors tell them they have dangerously high blood pressure are often advised to control salt. When I have dinner with a friend who was told his blood pressure is dangerously high, I’ll eat whatever I want and he will be careful to control his salt intake. It would be a mistake to conclude that my higher salt intake causes me to have lower blood pressure."

The False Claim That Soda And Junk Food Don't Matter In Obesity


(I'm adding those corrections to David's Cornell ignorance after-the-fact because I am tired of spamming the thread with more messages on such a stupid topic.)

 

[David_TheMan]

Okay, David caught me in my first lie. I said I wouldn't respond again, but I will make ONE more response to cover up more of his lies.

"I find it hard to believe that in this environment people don't know that eating fast food is not healthy. Most people seem to know if they're overweight, and that hasn't seemed to change their behaviors. Obese people certainly know that their weight is increasing their risk of poor health—they actually overestimate the mortality risks of obesity. I think information alone is not going to change people's behavior and get them to lose weight."

- Dr. Eric Finkelstein of Duke University's Global Health Institute, who apparently doesn't know as much about health as David_theMan.

Does Calorie-Labeling at Restaurants Lead to Healthier Eating?

Nice quote it an opinion, not scientific fact backed by scientific study.
Again I'm talking scientific fact, you posting opinion and speculation.
Funniest part about your poor appeal to authority quote, you are quoting a economist. LOL

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/calorie-labeling-menus/

So if calorie counts don't seem to nudge people to more healthful ordering, what interventions do you think would be more successful?
I'm an economist,....

Complete, absolute lie. I posted this study from the New England Journal of Medicine, which included the following paragraph full of cites from other scientific peer-reviewed studies:

"Obesity is a multisystem condition associated with an elevated risk of type 2 diabetes, coronary heart disease, cancer, and other complications.21,22 The effect of body weight on mortality has been studied extensively. In a study of more than a million U.S. adults, the lowest death rates were found among men with a BMI of 23.5 to 24.9 and among women with a BMI of 22.0 to 23.4. Death rates from cardiovascular diseases were substantially elevated among people with higher BMIs. A prospective study of 6139 subjects in Germany found the greatest obesity-associated excess mortality to be among the young24 — the standardized mortality ratio for people 18 to 29 years of age with a BMI of 40 or over was 4.2 in men and 3.8 in women. Fontaine et al. estimated the effect of obesity on years of life lost across the lifespan of adults.25 For any degree of excessive body weight, young age was associated with greater years of life lost. Allison et al. used data from six cohort studies in the United States to determine that obesity causes approximately 300,000 deaths per year,26 although a study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)27 may have overestimated deaths due to obesity.

Being overweight in childhood increases the risk among men of death from any cause and death from cardiovascular disease; it also increases the risk of cardiovascular morbidity among both men and women.28 The lifetime risk of diabetes among people born in the United States has risen rapidly to 30 to 40 percent — a phenomenon presumably attributable to the obesity “epidemic.”29 Having diabetes in adulthood increases the risk of a heart attack by as much as having had a previous heart attack,30 and the life-shortening effect of diabetes is approximately 13 years.31 Evidence also suggests that at younger ages, disability rates have risen and fitness levels have declined dramatically in the United States, with both trends attributed, at least in part, to the rise in obesity.32,33 The incidence of type 2 diabetes in childhood in the United States has increased many times over in the past two decades, an increase that is due almost entirely to the obesity epidemic34,35; shockingly, life-threatening complications, including renal failure, may develop by young adulthood in at least 10 percent of children with type 2 diabetes.36

If left unchecked, the rising prevalence of obesity that has already occurred in the past 30 years is expected to lead to an elevated risk of a range of fatal and nonfatal conditions for these cohorts as they age.29 If the prevalence of obesity continues to rise, especially at younger ages, the negative effect on health and longevity in the coming decades could be much worse. It is not possible to predict exactly when obesity among the young will have its largest negative effect on life expectancy. However, in the absence of successful interventions, it seems likely that it will be in the first half of this century, when at-risk populations reach the ages of greatest vulnerability.

Obesity has been shown to have a substantial negative effect on longevity, reducing the length of life of people who are severely obese by an estimated 5 to 20 years.25 Although the life-shortening effect of obesity is evident for people who are obese, its negative effect on the future life expectancy of the population is also critically important to public policy."


You have been completely, utterly, OWNED.

Yeah its a scientific study that doesn't actually support your contention with research.
When presented with a actual study that was more recent and specifically kills the argument being made, it shows you lacking .

My other links were two New York Times articles, one of which was summarizing another report in the New England Journal of Medicine. Not a "propaganda site", you liar.

When you push an agenda and not actual science research its propaganda partner. Sorry, but like I wrote, you aren't pushing scientific facts, you are pushing propaganda.

Absolutely false, as proven in that wall of studies right above.

Also, of your two studies, one was about HDFC and had nothing to do with anything, and the other said there was a U-shaped curve with obesity leading to higher mortality.

Except none of the studies I presented were proven false and I actually in the post you are replying to, presented you 3 studies, one from CDC, the other the one I told you click the link because they have pictures as well

Is Junk Food to Blame | Food and Brand Lab
YOu know this one from cornell that refutes fast food causing obesity and obesity link with mortality. LOL
Not reading and lying like usual.

...

Obesity in adulthood and its consequences for life expectancy
Obesity could 'rob you' of 20 years of health - Health News - NHS ChoicesObesity Found to Reduce Life Expectancy | Adelaide Bariatric CentreObesity and Life Expectancy with and without Diabetes in Adults Aged 55 Years and Older in the Netherlands: A Prospective Cohort StudyNIH study finds extreme obesity may shorten life expectancy up to 14 years
Even After Weight Loss, Obesity Can Reduce Life Span
Study: Obesity cuts life expectancy by up to 10 years | News | DW | 14.07.2016
Being overweight at 40 can shorten your life | Daily Mail Online
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090319224823.htm

Struggling and still failing.
I'll repeat myself because you keeping making the same mistake.
You post references to life expectancy, with unstated presumptions that obesity causes lower life expectancy.
My papers actually are investigations into if obesity causes higher mortality period, not accepting the premise that it does, they show that counter belief statistically there is no correlation between obesity and mortality. Period.

You haven't refuted anything, you've simply shown you don't understand what is being discussed, and if you do, you are further showing your intellectual dishonesty because you can't refute what studies I posted, and they studies you posted don't try, they simply operate under a proven false assumption.

No Sweat, York | Study: Fast food leads to more calories for adolescents, kids


August 2014 study in Public Health Nutrition shows that adults eat about 200 more calories when they go for fast food than when they eat at home.

Restaurants, fast food cost you 200 extra calories - CNN.com

Your link doesn't state fast food caused people to intake more calories, like you claimed and what I asked you to prove.
YOu know that right?

The actual article refered to in your first link
Fast-Food and Full-Service Restaurant Consumption Among Children and AdolescentsEffect on Energy, Beverage, and Nutrient Intake | Adolescent Medicine | JAMA Pediatrics | The JAMA Network
Doesn't say eating at fast food or pre-prepackaged food caused an increase in consumption.
It simply says there is an increase in caloric consumption when people eat out, and guess what they attribute the increase in calories to?
Sodas and sugery drinks. LOL

Results Fast-food and full-service restaurant consumption, respectively, was associated with a net increase in daily total energy intake of 126.29 kcal and 160.49 kcal for children and 309.53 kcal and 267.30 kcal for adolescents and with higher intake of regular soda (73.77 g and 88.28 g for children and 163.67 g and 107.25 g for adolescents) and sugar-sweetened beverages generally. Fast-food consumption increased intake of total fat (7.03-14.36 g), saturated fat (1.99-4.64 g), and sugar (5.71-16.24 g) for both age groups and sodium (396.28 mg) and protein (7.94 g) for adolescents. Full-service restaurant consumption was associated with increases in all nutrients examined. Additional key findings were (1) adverse effects on diet were larger for lower-income children and adolescents and (2) among adolescents, increased soda intake was twice as large when fast food was consumed away from home than at home.

More of that intellectual dishonesty on display
And both links reference the same article by the way.

 

[David_TheMan]

I can't believe your reading comprehension is still this bad.

HFCS is not the "supposed culprit" for ANYTHING that I said. I said that there was a high calorie-to-bulk ratio, that there were many nutrients missing that your body still needs, and that you tend to stuff in more calories when you're not at home. NONE of that has anything to do with HFCS.

You can't refute my arguments by posting a study that refutes someone else's completely unrelated argument.

Statement makes no sense.
I never said you said anything about HFCS. I said the actual argument presented by those who claim caloric intake is increased by fast food is typically presented as being caused by increase in soda consumption ergo HFCS. Period.

Fast food has nothing to do with nutrients you consume, you can be a vegan and not get your proper nutrients.
You are arguing a strawman here, another sign of the lack of intellectual honesty.

It's like if I said, "Trump is a terrible decision maker because he is narcissistic, poorly educated on the issues, and relies too much on his own family".

And you reply, "Look, Trump doesn't have dementia, I'll prove it!"

I say, "But I never said that Trump had dementia."

You are literally describing your own position and your own angle towards me. This is gold.

And your retort is, "Yeah, but some people blame his bad decision-making on dementia, and that's the culprit I can prove wrong."

Breaking down again and arguing with yourself when you have nothing to add logically to the conversation. You describe your own actions in your analogy. LOL

So now you admit that you already knew that DeLorenzo was a NeoConfederate BEFORE our conversation.

You admit to knowingly caping for NeoConfederate arguments.

I admit I had a conversation about DeLorenzo and not initially knowing he was a neo confederate.
how am I caping a neo confederate argument, and not the truth, when I literally cite, actual occurances?
LOL facts got you angrybut facts don't care about how you feel breh.

AND you implicitly are admitting that you were only pretending not to know that he was associated with NeoConfederates, when now you state that someone else had already told you this.

Except I literally told you I don't care what he is, the facts are the facts, and they are facts regardless of who said them. You might have a point.

The fact that morbidly obese people and anorexic people both die young does NOT prove that obesity isn't connected to death.

It just shows that being too fat AND being too thin is bad.

Except the author of the study specifically points out that obese and normal bmi have no significant difference of mortality and only the extreme on each end have high rates of mortality associated with their weight. But hey if you ignore what the author of the study writes, I'm sure you could do what you tried to do and claim it says the opposite of what it actually says.

MOre of that intellectual dishonesty.

The fact that being too thin kills you doesn't somehow make up for the fact that being too fat also kills you.

Who said it negates anything?
Again more of those lies and strawmen from you.

Literally ANYONE can read the thread and see that the thread title is the exact claim you are arguing. How did I lie? You are dense.

Obamacare has led to a increase in US death rate

Let them read, they can see how you literally lied.
Again like I said if you claim you are going to quote what I said, how about actually quote what I posted rather than the title of a article I quoted, you lied and lied for no reason what so ever when you didn't even need to, its extremely strange. But again it shows your character.

 

[5n0man]

these dudes are taking it personally

being the american president = you have crimes against humanity on your resume. you could throw mother teresa in the oval office and she would sign off on that shyt by default

So what actions lead you to believe he is the among the worst(your words)?

Shouldn't be surprised though, since you and your ilk are often delusional.
You make all these claims please source them with my posts.

Didn't you just post a bunch of fake news, alt right sources?

 

[5n0man]

He particularly annoys me, because:

1. He posts bullshyt arguments designed by White supremacist capitalists to maintain their power.

2. When I post extensive rebuttals with cites, he consistently shows an utter failure to understand any argument that pokes holes in what he's chosen to believe.

3. He then repeatedly comes back later and claims I never posted a rebuttal for the exact thing I rebutted.


This ain't even the first time I'd given him the all-out bodyslam, because he just straight lies about what has or hasn't been posted in threads.

Has the thought ever occurred that this guy just might be one of those paid shills or storm front plants? And if so, how come he hasn't been banned yet??

 

[David_TheMan]

So what actions lead you to believe he is the among the worst(your words)?

Didn't you just post a bunch of fake news, alt right sources?

No I didn't. try to read and keep up.

 

[714562]

How did this thread turn into a debate about fast food?

 

[the cac mamba]

So what actions lead you to believe he is the among the worst(your words)?

the technology available to him. shyt, imagine if andrew jackson had access to drones

the bottom line is stop caping for barack obama killing innocent people



and for the record, dude is a fukkin fakkit for this shyt one of the most disgusting things ive ever seen in my life. i wonder how funny his little joke would be to the child whos mother got blown up by a drone on her way to the store

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Has the thought ever occurred that this guy just might be one of those paid shills or storm front plants? And if so, how come he hasn't been banned yet??

I wouldn't believe it because if they were paying someone, they could get higher quality.

You can tell that most of the time he isn't trolling, he just legit doesn't understand. Like where he attacked me for quoting an economist on morbidity studies, while failing to note that the MAIN study he keeps quoting for his side (the Cornell one) is also an economist. He not only seems unaware that morbidity studies have become a significant part of economics, but that his own source was an economist. It's such poor, ineffective trolling that I don't see why you would pay for it. There isn't a single person on the site who gets convinced by such arguments. I think his greatest effect is simply wasting people's time.

I do believe there needs to be tighter moderation on Higher Learning. You should be allowed to shill for any argument you want, no matter how controversial, but if you're just trash posting then they should make you sit on the sidelines from time to time to watch and learn something.

 

[Black Panther]

NOW I remember why I had @David_TheMan on ignore :bpohh:

Was losing brain cells reading his posts

What's keeping him from getting banned? :bpthink:

 

[David_TheMan]

Crying about banning me. LOL
Just put me on ignore if you have a problem, it isn't hard.

 

[Black Panther]

Crying about banning me. LOL
Just put me on ignore if you have a problem, it isn't hard.

BP Negged

• Black Panther
• Apr 25, 2017

I feel a little better now. :mjloldance:

 

[David_TheMan]

BP Negged

• Black Panther
• Apr 25, 2017

I feel a little better now. :mjloldance:

 

[Black Panther]

otunga u mad gif

• Black Panther
• Jun 29, 2017