Albums Royce Da 5'9" - The Allegory (Discussion Thread)

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Em ruined bang. And that song on Boogie's album. I want to know why he gave his artists trash verses.
He can't help but want to make whatever song he's on an Eminem song. I find it hard to believe that Boogie and Conway were like yo we gotta change the beat and make it "epic." Why can't he let his verses speak for themselves? Stop being insecure, Marshall.
 

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He can't help but want to make whatever song he's on an Eminem song. I find it hard to believe that Boogie and Conway were like yo we gotta change the beat and make it "epic." Why can't he let his verses speak for themselves? Stop being insecure, Marshall.
He did on Fat Joes album. Thats one of his few recent guest spots that I liked. Minus the Nick Cannon shyt

This album was aight. :ld: Upside Down was the best joint on here
 

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I personally don't believe in autism. I'm not saying that these people are all fully cognitive. Some clearly have a complete lack of emotion, some lack the ability to speak, etc etc

My problem is a large variety of conditions, disabilities, and actual abnormalities are given this meaningless blanket umbrella term. That shyt is like "schizophrenia". No one symptom or set of symptoms exist to rigidly define what it is and isn't.

Nobody can show me a diagram of this supposed "spectrum" that isn't so broad that it could include everyone.

A lot of people are just weird, undisciplined, and instead of being given specialized treatment and training to overcome their shortcomings and differences are given a label and pass to not even attempt to improve themselves.
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Dude is jadakiss status to me. Fire lyricist, but his albums bore me. Only on track 4 rn
Perfect comparison


I usually love all Royce loosies, features and freestyles. But I don't have a Royce album I can give more than 3 and a half mics :yeshrug:

I can't listen to a Royce album all the way thru
 

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Success Is Certain is dope, Street Hop and Rock City pt2 are great. Youre also leaving out the mixtapes (Bar Exams, Build&Destroy). Overall I think his ability to get personal and typically have decent production puts him in a higher class imo
Apart from a few standouts like When I’m Up & Security, Success Is certain was lazy as fukk breh
 

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Just finished my first listen. I made sure to just listen ask the way through without skips or rewinds. Off first listen, I definitely feel that this is his most cohesive album period. Might even be his most lyrical overall as well, at least from a full focused, full project aspect. While I don't think his beats were the greatest ever or anything, they all feel very apropos for what he was looking to do here and none of them sounded drab. A few were really good and some were smooth and nice. Quite a few of them sounded moody.

I need more listens to digest everything, but me thinks it's an extremely stellar at first glance. At least a 9/10.
 
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Rhinestone doo rags was dope af.. shyt was like a freestyle over a dope beat.

Easily the illest rhyme and nicest beat on the album

I like some of Royce's beats but they just sound a lil cheap, maybe the mixing is kinda poor cos it's not hitting that nice in the headphones
 

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Just finished my first listen. I made sure to just listen ask the way through without skips or rewinds. Off first listen, I definitely feel that this is his most cohesive album period. Might even be good most lyrical overall as well, at least from a full focused, full project aspect. While I don't think his beats were the greatest every or anything, they all feel very apropos for what he was looking to do here and none of them sounded drab. A few were really good and some were smooth and nice. Quite a few of them sounded moody.

I need more listens to digest everything, but me thinks it's an extremely stellar at first glance. At least a 9/10.
9/10...:mjtf:

I'm curious what would u give Jay's Blueprint. Or Nas Illmatic?:jbhmm:

Clipse Hell Hath no fury?
 
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Apart from a few standouts like When I’m Up & Security, Success Is certain was lazy as fukk breh

Success Is Certain was made solely to capitalize off his surprising success with that Hell: The Sequel album with Em. It’s basically the More Fish/Apollo Kids of his catalog.

Also, comparing him to Jadakiss is a horrible analogy, cause Jada probably has 1.5 good albums, and isn’t a better artist than Royce.
 

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Success Is Certain was made solely to capitalize off his surprising success with that Hell: The Sequel album with Em. It’s basically the More Fish/Apollo Kids of his catalog.

Also, comparing him to Jadakiss is a horrible analogy, cause Jada probably has 1.5 good albums, and isn’t a better artist than Royce.
He's more entertaining.
 

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I personally don't believe in autism. I'm not saying that these people are all fully cognitive. Some clearly have a complete lack of emotion, some lack the ability to speak, etc etc

My problem is a large variety of conditions, disabilities, and actual abnormalities are given this meaningless blanket umbrella term. That shyt is like "schizophrenia". No one symptom or set of symptoms exist to rigidly define what it is and isn't.

Nobody can show me a diagram of this supposed "spectrum" that isn't so broad that it could include everyone.


A lot of people are just weird, undisciplined, and instead of being given specialized treatment and training to overcome their shortcomings and differences are given a label and pass to not even attempt to improve themselves.

Autism is real, and there are different names for different conditions. Also it's less about "treatment" or "overcoming shortcomings" and more about learning to live with your diagnosis.

And the bolded part is partly true, but it doesn't mean autism doesn't exist. And it isn't the only disorder.

Also, anti-vaxxers are harmful and I'm disappointed that Royce is on that wave
 

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Album is cool so far

On Thou Shall, rn.

Wish the album was a bit more coherent with it's theme. Because the Intro makes it seem Royce wasn't gonna be on BS.

It's weaving in and out with what it wants to be.

But it's ok so far
 
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