Rumor: NBA Expansion?

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And the Kentucky Colonels in Louisville won the most games in the history of the ABA, in the 60s and 70s, in a city already crazy about basketball.
Louisville would likely be an expansion team, but the last time the NBA granted an expansion team into such a small market was the '70s. I just don't see that happening again for the foreseeable future.

The 3 teams with the smallest market in the NBA (OKC, New Orleans, and Memphis) are relocation teams. The Pelicans were originally the New Orleans Hornets (moved from Charlotte to NOLA in 2002), but they gave back that history to Charlotte, so they are now technically an "expansion" team.
 

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I was only referring to the teams you mentioned not all teams that have moved.

As for any team that has moved, I think people get over it when cities get another team.

I think that's why everyone wanted a team in Baltimore, or everyone wanted a team in LA etc.
For sure I get why Seattle people want the Sonics back!

Silver last year or so said Vegas is a much stronger contender to get a team than Seattle, and said Seattle ain't a lock. I just think people should be realistic with their expectations on the return of the Sonics...
first, sonic fans have absolutely no reason to let it go, its bullshyt. A local owner sold it to a guy who said he'd never move it, he held the city hostage for an arena, and then moved when he didn't get a gift of an upgraded arena. Its a modern owner grift.

that said though, There is a reason the Baltimore Ravens, The Cleveland Browns, Milwaukee Bucks, Charlotte Hornets, the Seattle Mariners, The Winnepeg Jets, the Minnesota Wild, The Minesota Timberwolves, the Houston Texans (I could go on and on) exist: after their predecessor teams left town, their fans never let it go and made it vocal they want a team.

This shyt matters, and the sonics fans are right to be vocal about it every time...demand drives attractiveness for a new / returning franchise.
•the city of Charlotte got a team back (Bobcats) 2 years after the Hornets left for New Orleans;

•the Browns came back 4 years after leaving for Baltimore;

•Houston got its NFL team back 6 years after the Oilers left for Tennessee;

•Minnesota got an NHL team back 7 years after the North Stars went to Dallas;

•Seattle got the Mariners 8 years after the Pilots left for Milwaukee;

•Baltimore got the Ravens 13 years after the Colts left for Indianapolis;

•Milwaukee got the Bucks 13 years after the Hawks left for St Louis;

•New Orleans got the Hornets 23 years after the Jazz left for Salt Lake;

•Minnesota got the Wolves 29 years after the Lakers moved to LA, but the history of the old Minneapolis team stayed with the LA Lakers

My point being, there's an argument to be made that if the Sonics were gonna come back, it woulda already happened. Milwaukee got the Bucks, and Charlotte got the Bobcats, well before the 17 years and counting Seattle is at---->though I guess on the optimistic side, it took longer for the NBA to return to New Orleans and Minnesota, so you can use those as examples that Seattle still has a chance...

And yet, there's a long list of cities from Syracuse, Rochester, and Buffalo, to Kansas City, St Louis, and San Diego, who used to have an NBA team, THAT NEVER GOT ANOTHER ONE. Seattle may never get another one dog and it aint the first city to lose its team in the way that it did ..
Louisville doesn't deserve a team but teams in smaller metros like New Orleans, Salt Lake City, Memphis ... make sense?

Teams in Milwaukee, Sacramento, OKC make sense?
Salt Lake is a bigger city and significantly larger market than Louisville...

Sacramento is the biggest city and market of all the cities you mentioned, its not a "small" city by any stretch. Sac's problem is that its in California. If it were anywhere else people would be more knowledgeable about it. Its a bigger city than Kansas City, which has three major leagues...
 

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Seattle is a weird City these days. The Sonics are long gone.

It’s a beautiful place for the most part but I feel like there’s no black people there.

They got die hard sports fans, but I dunno what type of fans would show up for basketball. But they got the money for it so :manny:
Asians and “woke” whites love basketball. Even when the warriors were in the town and bad, Asians, especially SE Asians, were a large and loyal part of their fan base
 

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Salt Lake is a bigger city and significantly larger market than Louisville...

Sacramento is the biggest city and market of all the cities you mentioned, its not a "small" city by any stretch. Sac's problem is that its in California. If it were anywhere else people would be more knowledgeable about it. Its a bigger city than Kansas City, which has three major leagues...


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SLC 199k
Sacramento 524k
Louisville 633k


As of the 2020 census, the MSA had a population of 1,257,936.



The Louisville metropolitan area is the 43rd largest metropolitan statistical area (MSA) in the United States. It had a population of 1,395,855 in 2020 according to the latest official census, and its principal city is Louisville, Kentucky.



You cannot seriously talk about Salt Lake City as being a serious or more important city than Louisville in anything, and especially not in basketball. If they didn't luck out with Stockton and Malone enjoying the relatively low profile and low pressure of playing there, that team would have moved also. They had already drafted Dominique Wilkins and he refused to go there.


1983-84, they already started testing the Las Vegas market by scheduling 11 home games there that season ... right before they got lucky with Stockton in 84 and Malone in 85.
 

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SLC 199k
Sacramento 524k
Louisville 633k


As of the 2020 census, the MSA had a population of 1,257,936.



The Louisville metropolitan area is the 43rd largest metropolitan statistical area (MSA) in the United States. It had a population of 1,395,855 in 2020 according to the latest official census, and its principal city is Louisville, Kentucky.


You cannot seriously talk about Salt Lake City as being a serious or more important city than Louisville in anything, and especially not in basketball. If they didn't luck out with Stockton and Malone enjoying the relatively low profile and low pressure of playing there, that team would have moved also. They had already drafted Dominique Wilkins and he refused to go there.


1983-84, they already started testing the Las Vegas market by scheduling 11 home games there that season ... right before they got lucky with Stockton in 84 and Malone in 85.

20. Sacramento
28. Salt Lake
49. Louisville


22. Salt Lake
24. Sacramento
40. Louisville




Sacramento 1,962,998
Salt Lake 1,169,033
Louisville 965,005

There are plenty of metrics that affirm Salt Lake as a larger city than Louisville. Louisville not even in the same category as Sac. Louisville is a smaller city on the level of Memphis and OKC. Salt Lake has small borders, which is why it's jurisdictional population is small. The actual urban area, metropolis, and media market tell you how big Salt Lake truly is---->way bigger than Louisville...
 

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Do you want to retort my post breh...you know damn well the A's are coming to Vegas for the exact reasons I stated and the owner is a cheap b*stard that fukked bay area A's fans over... I'll add that ....including my own family that were season ticket holders in the town :manny:
 

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SLC 199k
Sacramento 524k
Louisville 633k


As of the 2020 census, the MSA had a population of 1,257,936.



The Louisville metropolitan area is the 43rd largest metropolitan statistical area (MSA) in the United States. It had a population of 1,395,855 in 2020 according to the latest official census, and its principal city is Louisville, Kentucky.


You cannot seriously talk about Salt Lake City as being a serious or more important city than Louisville in anything, and especially not in basketball. If they didn't luck out with Stockton and Malone enjoying the relatively low profile and low pressure of playing there, that team would have moved also. They had already drafted Dominique Wilkins and he refused to go there.


1983-84, they already started testing the Las Vegas market by scheduling 11 home games there that season ... right before they got lucky with Stockton in 84 and Malone in 85.
Once Larry Miller bought the Jazz it was over. Same way Clay Bennett took the team to OKC for no other reason than that's where he was from.
 

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20. Sacramento
28. Salt Lake
49. Louisville


22. Salt Lake
24. Sacramento
40. Louisville




Sacramento 1,962,998
Salt Lake 1,169,033
Louisville 965,005

There are plenty of metrics that affirm Salt Lake as a larger city than Louisville. Louisville not even in the same category as Sac. Louisville is a smaller city on the level of Memphis and OKC. Salt Lake has small borders, which is why it's jurisdictional population is small. The actual urban area, metropolis, and media market tell you how big Salt Lake truly is---->way bigger than Louisville...


And how many hoopers has SLC produced with all this influence they have? :jbhmm:
 

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Asians and “woke” whites love basketball. Even when the warriors were in the town and bad, Asians, especially SE Asians, were a large and loyal part of their fan base

I guess if you just want to sell tickets, but that isn’t a healthy fan base. I’d hate to play for that team if I was a player :mjlol:
 
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