Rush hour in midtown Manhattan

[Wild self]

Those businesses gonna suffer, and it's a double edged sword for them.

 

[Geode]

I used to have to take a bus crosstown through Midtown. Most times I'd elect to just walk across 4-6 avenues than wait for and on the bus, since it was faster. Even the commuter buses coming into Manhattan from the outer boroughs get caught up in traffic, and I'd have to plan for the bus to get caught in Midtown tunnel traffic and 6th Avenue traffic. It'll be interesting to see how this impacts bus speeds.

 

[chineebai]

Congestion pricing is working so far. My coworker drives from westchester to downtown and usually its an hour 10 minutes and now its 45 minutes. I think most people would trade $9 for less time in traffic.

 

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

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You could see there’s generally less car traffic than usual…at any point in the day

 

[Drake's Tan]

clearly the impact is immediate.

It definitely has a short term impact that is noticeable. It's also cold af out and people who aren't trying to go out now have extra incentive to a radical measure.

We'll see when it warms up if cars will stay away and if they come back, if the revenue generated from this measure is enough to balance out any potential negative impact to local businesses that may occur due to less people coming into the cities from NJ, LI, outer boros who would normally drive in.

 

[IIVI]

Congestion pricing is working so far. My coworker drives from westchester to downtown and usually its an hour 10 minutes and now its 45 minutes. I think most people would trade $9 for less time in traffic.

Yeah it’ll definitely depend on cost vs reward. Most people don’t want to spend the extra 30 minutes/day (a lot of time through the years) sitting in traffic.

However, not everyone can afford that and it becomes yet another pay-to-play scheme.

Sounds like it’s an official government decision but looks very predatory, which people relying (being very idealistic) that the government protect them from.

shyt is actually borderline “Pay to work”. Might save those people who can afford it an extra 30 minutes sitting in traffic. However it costs everyone else an extra 30 minutes everyday to get ready to deal with a public transportation system.

 

[WIA20XX]

Congestion pricing is working so far. My coworker drives from westchester to downtown and usually its an hour 10 minutes and now its 45 minutes. I think most people would trade $9 for less time in traffic.

Cats talmbout how cheap it is gonna mess up their own game.

 

[CashmereThoughts]

I’m not from NY but yeah no fukking way. $9 per day is nearly $5k per year, which is $50k gone after 10 years for doing nothing than your average commute.

That city can go fukk itself at that point. How about stop giving corrupt people more money, that’ll free some cash up.

You dont have to drive to get to Manhattan

 

[CashmereThoughts]

The goal is to empty the streets of cars first, cleans up the air and new businesses can actually cook with an area that's way more walkable

Then, in super dense cities like NYC, they want to replace regular sized cars with smaller EV cars (very similar to the ones the Chinese have been making)

then it's gonna turn into you can ONLY drive those kinds of cars in dense city areas.

People can be mad about it but it's for our own good, we just seen LA get clapped big time by climate change they are not tryna lose a business hub like NYC the same way



You can't have humans continue to create pollution at obscene levels just because they wanna relive older more ignorant times. The ideas have been being developed for ages now the hardest part is figuring out ways to clear out areas so the redesigns can happen and conditioning people to new rules to cut down our waste output

Word. This car centric urban planning was decided by auto industry lobbyists at our detriment.

Too many cars have caused havoc in our quality of life and there are enough examples globally of cities that have drastically improved quality of life for all by deprioritizing cars over cleaner air and prioritizing walkability and cities for people and not cars.

Anybody mad can stay where there at but New York City is taking a step forward from car centric existence

 

[tremonthustler1]

Word. This car centric urban planning was decided by auto industry lobbyists at our detriment.

Too many cars have caused havoc in our quality of life and there are enough examples globally of cities that have drastically improved quality of life for all by deprioritizing cars over cleaner air and prioritizing walkability and cities for people and not cars.

Anybody mad can stay where there at but New York City is taking a step forward from car centric existence

If you're by the GWB, get ready for some asthma in your life.

The issue with the tolls is that NOBODY trusts the MTA with what they'll do with that money. That money's gonna fund some 52 year old's early retirement or make Manhattan stations look super fancy for tourists.

Selfishly as a BX dude, we're impacted the least by this because we're the only borough that doesn't have to pay to get into Manhattan at all and honestly, real Bronx people don't drive south of Harlem anyway, let alone 60th. We don't even use Metro North like that. We take advantage of the A and D going from 125th to 59th in 1 stop.

 

[DonRe]

My mom still lives in downtown manhattan and said shyt dead dead. My visits will be less frequent though.

My commute from westchester to upper manhattan is a breeze every morning since. Shaved at least 15 minutes

 

[DonRe]

And this is still a bad idea.

All these tweets about how empty streets doesnt equate to less consumerism dont get the simple fact that suppliers and wholesalers are not going to foot the bill. And business will neither. Which falls on who again?

Commuters, in and out of the city, are not only paying the toll they will also pay more for what are already high consumer goods and services. Plus the added tax for aforementioned price increase.

 

[Richard Glidewell]

It's what you supposed to do........talk with your money........TALK THAT BIG shyt...........whole Lotta people bout to be mad.......they had planned out what they was gone do with that blood money already.........I hope the people can keep up the fight........

 

[Richard Glidewell]

Those businesses gonna suffer, and it's a double edged sword for them.

They gone say it's the work from home people causing the issue ......

 

[Wild self]

They gone say it's the work from home people causing the issue ......

fukk them. They don't want cars, then they don't deserve the lucrative business and excess incomes that come with it.