Ryan Coogler & Michael B. Jordan vampire film "Sinners"

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Amazing movie. That music scene with the different generations was one of the best scenes I’ve seen. That guitar player was the star of the movie for me I hope to see him in more coogler movies. That “I wanna taste you” line was bananas tho coogler need to go to horny jail for that one
Coogler was getting something off his chest with this one when it comes to that tho :mjlol:

The main character hittin his old lady from the back in a one room hot ass shack being the most tame sex scene is wild when you think about it :dead:
 

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Couple things, why was the vampire able to run in the sunlight in the middle of the movie but not in the end.

Only thing I didn’t like about the music scene is I didn’t need to see Bloods shooting dice. fukk that gang shyt, stop glorifying it.

And why do vampires never own watches? :dahell:

It looked like Remmick was stabbed through the heart at least three times, and only with the last stabbing combined with the sun did he finally die. So I assume because of how old he is, he can tank more damage than a newly turned vampire.
Maybe the sun on its own can hurt him but alone it’s not enough to kill him or it kills him slower than it would a new vampire.
 

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Felt like the ending of the climax was rushed and the timing did not work for me. How you get from the top of the juke joint to the river that fast after fighting like that? Great movie and the symbolism on the surface wasn't hard to decipher if you did the knowledge before going in. I knew when the scene Mary was introduced at the train station she was going to be a problem, and I think Coogler did a good job to point out the juke joint was losing money before Mary talked to Stack about talking to the vampires about their gold was great motivation to move the plot ahead.

Tariq Nasheed bust most of the symbolism wide open, so I ain't about to rehash it, but...

The symbolism for the twins just made sense to me, like that one twin was turned into a vampire by a passing woman and did not pose a threat - he was already assimilated or at least marked. I thought it was a good touch to give Stack the caps on his teeth as a foreshadowing to becoming a vampire and have that subtly speak for his character. Stack was the flashier twin so it made sense to give him the caps, it made sense for him to let Mary talk to the vampires after the vampires showed them the gold to break even or make the juke joint profit. We didn't need a full exposition 'cause Stack was wearing it, and it was summed up by the end of the movie by how he was dressed. Stack lived on assimilated as the undead or the living dead, and the conduit for that assimilation was his desire for fast money, a good time and a white woman or one that could pass for one. Stack didn't handle is business so he accepted assimilation 'cause he knew something wasn't right about Mary when she came back from outside. Stack becoming a vampire could be a metaphor for no longer being real within black culture.

Mary's passing was a metaphor for the pathway to assimilation. Blood, the vampires are white.
Issa cool lil' layer that works for the movie.

Smoke's character was just the opposite, with Annie as his love interest and Smoke keeping the mojo bag it showed that he was still tapped in to his roots and that's what saved him, let him live long enough to get revenge, and make sure Preacher Boy got home alright. Also, the twins were color-coded to match the times of day: Smoke was blue for blue skies of day, Stack was red for the blood symbolism of vampires only living by night.

Preacher Boy's character arc was like a young Delta Slim except we got to see what Delta Slim was talking about when he said something like he fought with the devil many times in Preacher Boy's character arc. It was like through Preacher Boy's music, and the music of FBADOS culture, and ancestral recall Preacher Boy was the living gatekeeper between the past and present. He was the keeper of the real, but knew how to profit from the assimilated style of electric blues that brought in white blues players of later years.

Great movie. The From Dusk till Dawn reference was used to symbolically get across the message of assimilation. Might watch the matinee later this week.

Oh, shout out to Saul Williams being in the movie.
 
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I've mentioned it before but I'd also def recommend Angel Blood. Southern gothic horror with some similar themes.




I'm prob gonna see Sinners again this weekend.


Also Lisa Bonet is Nakkid in this and it's apparently what got her kicked off A Different World.

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Felt like the ending of the climax was rushed and the timing did not work for me. How you get from the top of the juke joint to the river that fast after fighting like that? Great movie and the symbolism on the surface wasn't hard to decipher if you did the knowledge before going in. I knew when the scene Mary was introduced at the train station she was going to be a problem, and I think Coogler did a good job to point out the juke joint was losing money before Mary talked to Stack about talking to the vampires about their gold was great motivation to move the plot ahead.

Tariq Nasheed bust most of the symbolism wide open, so I ain't about to rehash it, but...

The symbolism for the twins just made sense to me, like that one twin was turned into a vampire by a passing woman and did not pose a threat - he was already assimilated or at least marked. I thought it was a good touch to give Stack the caps on his teeth as a foreshadowing to becoming a vampire and have that subtly speak for his character. Stack was the flashier twin so it made sense to give him the caps, it made sense for him to let Mary talk to the vampires after the vampires showed them the gold to break even or make the juke joint profit. We didn't need a full exposition 'cause Stack was wearing it, and it was summed up by the end of the movie by how he was dressed. Stack lived on assimilated as the undead or the living dead, and the conduit for that assimilation was his desire for fast money, a good time and a white woman or one that could pass for one. Stack didn't handle is business so he accepted assimilation 'cause he knew something wasn't right about Mary when she came back from outside. Stack becoming a vampire could be a metaphor for no longer being real within black culture.

Mary's passing was a metaphor for the pathway to assimilation. Blood, the vampires are white.
Issa cool lil' layer that works for the movie.

Smoke's character was just the opposite, with Annie as his love interest and Smoke keeping the mojo bag it showed that he was still tapped in to his roots and that's what saved him, let him live long enough to get revenge, and make sure Preacher Boy got home alright. Also, the twins were color-coded to match the times of day: Smoke was blue for blue skies of day, Stack was red for the blood symbolism of vampires only living by night.

Preacher Boy's character arc was like a young Delta Slim except we got to see what Delta Slim was talking about when he said something like he fought with the devil many times in Preacher Boy's character arc. It was like through Preacher Boy's music, and the music of FBADOS culture, and ancestral recall Preacher Boy was the living gatekeeper between the past and present. He was the keeper of the real, but knew how to profit from the assimilated style of electric blues that brought in white blues players of later years.

Great movie. The From Dusk till Dawn reference was used to symbolically get across the message of assimilation. Might watch the matinee later this week.

Oh, shout out to Saul Williams being in the movie.
How'd you feel about the depiction of African ancestors being called up? I thought that was down well with the three guitars.
 

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How'd you feel about the depiction of African ancestors being called up? I thought that was down well with the three guitars.
I liked that scene, the one in the juke joint. I already did the knowledge to that with the blues as the foundation for black music and ancestral recall years ago so it wasn't as powerful a scene for me as it might have been for others. It was good Coogler did that to make the connection. After like 30 minutes I was able to figure out where the movie was going after I saw Preacher Boy come back to the church 'cause I know secular has no play in the church especially in 1932, so I put on my history cap and my metaphysic cap for the rest of the movie. The vampire part was spoiled for me before going in.

The whole film was a wonderful metaphor and message for the importance of black people gatekeeping their culture from assimilation, and literally fighting to retain their identity and work with their own to economically empower each other and themselves. I been doin' that. Coogler's deal to retain the rights of the movie is proof he actin' on his message, I hope others follow suit.

I would like to see other indie black filmmakers do what Coogler did with this movie on a strictly indie level but I know from blaxploitation movies the success of Sinners is about to shift the industry standard for black films... again like what happened in the 90s... what happened with television. I just hope we think twice before lettin' them folks in... again.
 

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After like 30 minutes I was able to figure out where the movie was going after I saw Preacher Boy come back to the church 'cause I know secular has no play in the church especially in 1932, so I put on my history cap and my metaphysic cap for the rest of the movie. The vampire part was spoiled for me before going in.
Yeah I figured out what he was and what he was supposed to do by the time Slim had started to initiate him in the car.
 
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