Compared to the hyped up NY artists from his era? Absolutely.
Rza Speaks on New York Rap : Its Missing the Brain Stimulation thats Needed, Wu Music Being Minimize Brought Forth Cash Money & No limit On Radio
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Compared to the hyped up NY artists from his era? Absolutely.
Exactly. The fact that this city went the Gucci Mane route instead of the Dungeon Family route given its rich history and strong middle class is very disappointing.
I don’t even care about the content of the art all that much as much as I care about the quality. My biggest gripe with Atlanta is the way the artists and most consumers lack a reverence for art form. You can still make ignant gangsta music, but at high quality.
For example, The content of this song is very ignorant, but the craftsmanship and artistic quality is top notch.
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Jay-Z running to hop on Juvenile’s HA remix for a buzz highlights that the South would have been major with our without NYC’s stamp.
Thinking that either the West or East Coast can fully gate keep what music people like, represents an elitism that puts them further out of touch rather than being embraced / revered in the way old heads like RZA feel they should be.
Thinking that either the West or East Coast can fully gate keep what music people like, represents an elitism that puts them further out of touch rather than being embraced / revered in the way old heads like RZA feel they should be.
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If only Rza beats sounded like his everyday intellect again
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That’s all it was.
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Wu got banned from NYC radio.... Not the offshoots... The main group AND all the offshootsmuhfukkas just be talking and saying shyt that sound good with no connection to reality ….. Sunz of Man () wasn’t holding on to any radio play real estate that needed freeing up for Cash Money and No Limit to do what they did…by the time NYC radio would finally gave them a chance
1. Both labels had already forced their way into game independently and were going gold and platinum without relaying on radio period, let alone NYC radio
2. Wu had already lost local cultural market share to other movements in their backyard, never mind what was happening 1000 miles away in the south. In a world with Make ‘em Say Ugh not getting radio play, Puff Daddy and Mase just get more spins….no Back Dat Azz Up just means more Ruff Ryders, not random cuts from Immobilarity getting put into rotation
It's almost like y'all wasn't outside
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Wu was done after “Gravel Pit”
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Wu stopped making records people gave a fukk about. Ghost held on until bulletproof wallets.
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I remember too... HE SAID EXACTLY THE SAME THING HERE.. About the books and them not having access to education. These are the EXACT same quotes from when he said it in the source and caught flak. I remember some south nikkas (might have been banner) saying that yea they didn't have the books but if the electricity went out, could up north nikkas grow their own food?No Limit & Cash Money were gonna explode on the scene no matter what lol. Wu-Tang didn't have shyt to do with that
Oh and I remember when RZA disrespected the South before too. He don't want them problems
So I immediately noticed that RZA never learned that lesson, even after apologizing, because he's telling the same story now, 20 some years later... look it up
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What you are saying is your opinion.... What RZA and I was talking about is facts.. They were banned. Now why would you need to be banned if they weren't playing your shyt in the first place?
And the ban came in 97.... That was double plat wu tang forever time... So literally, at their height, they wasn't allowed on their home radio.. Master P didn't blow up till 98...
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I just made the thread last night lol
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You mean this one https://www.thecoli.com/threads/throwback-that-time-rza-disrespected-the-south.1072052/
Yea... RZA been shytting on the south about books for 20 plus years.. He ain't learned a single lesson
Wu infighting minimized the Wu and the infighting was all the members being a$$holes towards RZA and RZA just going:
Even NOW the WU could still be making albums but Rae, UGOD specifically but even Ghost and Meth half way be on some 2face type shyt.
I use to think RZA was the problem cause the Rae, UGod, Ghost, and Meth would do press and make comments like RZA was the problem but years later the real issues came out and it literally was them. And the whole time RZA just kept quiet to keep peace and not fire back and just did him.
And he ended up with the most success by far.
Hot 97 basically banned WU back in the day cause of Ghost and RZA begged the rest of the WU not to do that shyt but they listened to Ghost.
Even NOW the WU could still be making albums but Rae, UGOD specifically but even Ghost and Meth half way be on some 2face type shyt.
I use to think RZA was the problem cause the Rae, UGod, Ghost, and Meth would do press and make comments like RZA was the problem but years later the real issues came out and it literally was them. And the whole time RZA just kept quiet to keep peace and not fire back and just did him.
And he ended up with the most success by far.
Hot 97 basically banned WU back in the day cause of Ghost and RZA begged the rest of the WU not to do that shyt but they listened to Ghost.
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Ahhh i remember that…even worse lol
Ghost held on till like 04…i remember “Run” getting burn. Wu as a team have no excuse. Their output went south