Saban vs Belicheck...who’s the overall goat?

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please make some argument as to how he's a good Xs and Os coach. especially even remotely compared to Beli

of course, if people consider Harbaugh good at Xs and Os, then Saban is a fukking mastermind. but you gotta have some standards.
What the fukk are you talking about

Isn’t the sign of a good X & Os coach how sound your teams game plan is going into each game?

Saban loses coaches from his staff every year and Offense and Defense are always at the same level
 

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What the fukk are you talking about

Isn’t the sign of a good X & Os coach how sound your teams game plan is going into each game?

Saban loses coaches from his staff every year and Offense and Defense are always at the same level
uh..no? Bill Cowher lost coordinators too but and steelers offense/defense were always the same level

that didn't make him a good Xs and Os coach

you have to be a good play designer and caller to be a good Xs and Os coach. Beli is (or was) a Godtier defensive Xs and Os guy.
 

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uh..no? Bill Cowher lost coordinators too but and steelers offense/defense were always the same level

that didn't make him a good Xs and Os coach

you have to be a good play designer and caller to be a good Xs and Os coach. Beli is (or was) a Godtier defensive Xs and Os guy.
And you are saying Saban never was that based on what?
 

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And you are saying Saban never was that based on what?
based on his defenses and schemes he plays. just not that impressive to me from strategic and tactical point of view :manny: 35 points to clemson in the championship with that stacked roster ? :shaq2:

and his best results in NFL happened when he was basically a figurehead for Beli as a DC in Cleveland
 

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please make some argument as to how he's a good Xs and Os coach. especially even remotely compared to Beli

of course, if people consider Harbaugh good at Xs and Os, then Saban is a fukking mastermind. but you gotta have some standards.

Act like Saban didn't turn around Michigan State and LSU bruhs. He took over a VERY shytty LSU program Gerry Dinardo left behind
 

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Act like Saban didn't turn around Michigan State and LSU bruhs. He took over a VERY shytty LSU program Gerry Dinardo left behind
again, bunch of general talk that dont pertain to xs and os. harbaugh turned the 49ers around, but he isnt an xs and os guy at all...so whats your point ?

I want to see xs and os arguments. beli has tons of signature games with giants and patriots where his defense was an underdog and yet through his scheming they were able to contain high-powered offenses.
 

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again, bunch of general talk that dont pertain to xs and os. harbaugh turned the 49ers around, but he isnt an xs and os guy at all...so whats your point ?

I want to see xs and os arguments. beli has tons of signature games with giants and patriots where his defense was an underdog and yet through his scheming they were able to contain high-powered offenses.

So does Nick, here's two of his biggest against Heisman winners





For the record i picked Beli but to assume Nick wins because he only has he best players is ridiculous
 
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