Saw Hidden Colors 1 & 2 and have some MAJOR beefs with some of the concepts. WATCH THE MOVIE FIRST!

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man, i hate to say this but a lot of you folks on this forum don't even know what you're talking about. ya'll just run off the mouth, swearing blind that you know what you're talking about and when you get schooled with actual evidence, ya'll get all quiet. i'll never forget when some poster in here got owned in one of those threads bashing gay people when he said that there were no gay people involved in the civil rights movement. someone, i forgot their name, pulled up rustin bayard and folks got all baffled. most of you DO NOT know what you're talking about and don't even bother to look up or let alone learn from what you're taught by someone who schools you. it's okay to admit that you don't know everything and it's okay to be willing to learn. it's normal. there's nothing wrong with actually knowing something or being smart. why do some of you guys feel that because you listen to rap, are black and etc that you have to be stupid?



honestly, i don't like the whole idea of how people are taking for granted that tariq nasheed is schooling them through a dvd that was made with the intentions of making money by exploiting the idea of "education". that alone makes me skeptical about the information that he's putting across. you can't place any amount of money on knowledge and education for that matter. for him to push the dvd through some web infomercial going like "i'm selling you know for 19 bucks" leaves a bad taste in my mouth like he's turning something serious into a buck or profit. it's almost like saying "watch this dvd and you'll learn what you have to know." dude really isn't encouraging folks to go out there and learn more. folks are just snagging the dvds and simply relying on that shyt to be educated because they don't want to read and simply don't give a fukk.

:rudy: Ok breh.. what is discussed on the dvd is what is same information in the books. The worldstar generation is less likely to pick up a book, so they get the information from a dvd.. same information just different format. He needs to sell the dvd to make money to create another documentary. If he didn't sell Hidden Colors 1.. then Hidden Colors 2 doesn't get made. Your whole first paragraph is some bullshyt.. you mad because some nikkas bashing gays and claim they don't know shyt.. when i've never seen you post anything of substance but rant and curse. So nikkas don't know Rustin Bayard is and because of that, they don't know shyt? :mindblown: and you do? You literally rant every post you make, now you fronting like you smart and the voice of reason... I wouldn't expect you to like Tariq when that nikka always go in on moist nikkas. :umad:
 

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nikkas on this forum were talking black history way before the Hidden Colors dvd's breh. If you don't like the man, just say it... all your doing is assuming.
I don't know any black, accredited scholar who lends this film any credit. I'm talking nikkas who are deep into this shyt. Like black filmmakers who have won awards and who have "staple" black films in the black community. Professors who are known for their ideology on black culture/history,etc. , so therefore, if you have been listening to black history way before why do you not question the fact that none of the people you supposed would be listening to back this nikkas shyt up?

That's my only reasoning here. Just seems like a whole bunch of dudes who grew up in white washed areas, with white washed teachers, finally hearing something from black people so they take any and everything to be truth. :manny:

I agree with the premise of the film in that black people have a lot of history that isn't told. All of the overstatements and reaches are unnecessary and take away from the credence of the film, IMO. Makes it more of a "for fun" movie rather than something serious because instead of truth it's playing on emotion. Tariq is a pimp and playing on emotions is what he does well. There's a reason why he doesn't deny that Moctezuma-Mansa Musa thing ever was stated, just corrects himself. Dude raised all that money AND got people to buy it and not one credible/established person was on that DVD. Makes me wonder.

I have respect for his hustle. Dude knows how to exploit people :wow: But I also don't need any dummies IRL trying discuss how Mansa and Moctezuma are the same people when I'm trying to have a factual conversation about black history. Thankfully I don't know anyone who likes this nikka or who wants to see this movie so I never will. :bow:
 
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:rudy: Ok breh.. what is discussed on the dvd is what is same information in the books. The worldstar generation is less likely to pick up a book, so they get the information from a dvd.. same information just different format. He needs to sell the dvd to make money to create another documentary. If he didn't sell Hidden Colors 1.. then Hidden Colors 2 doesn't get made. Your whole first paragraph is some bullshyt.. you mad because some nikkas bashing gays and claim they don't know shyt.. when i've never seen you post anything of substance but rant and curse. So nikkas don't know Rustin Bayard is and because of that, they don't know shyt? :mindblown: and you do? You literally rant every post you make, now you fronting like you smart and the voice of reason... I wouldn't expect you to like Tariq when that nikka always go in on moist nikkas. :umad:

:usure:how do you know this? what books have you read that coincide with what he said? let's keep it real. unless you really do your research, read some books and etc, you really don't know if the dvd is as accurate as you and some of these people think it is. don't get mad @ me because i'm making a point. if you can't even read a book or let alone READ, how can you get by in this world? don't tell me that you and these folks are that fukking lazy to READ. i guess that explains the whole "too long, didn't read" bullshyt and then yet folks wonder why their asses get screwed over when they don't read the cell phone company contract plan before they sign. they wonder why they get screwed over.

anybody could do the same shyt and i'm sure you wouldn't give a fukk, ready to play it off as some crap but you're willing to give a guy who basically has made his career on giving guy's dating tips the benefit of the doubt. :mindblown: tariq is a businessman and a part of being a businessman is being a conman. a businessman is more concerned about making money off of his product than the quality of it. there's really no hope for some of you dudes. maybe you should just stick with what you know.

and the point of what i said concerning rustin bayard is to show how uneducated a lot of you motherfukkers are. you just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk a lot of shyt just to talk shyt. breh, even if i said something of substance, you wouldn't know because you would be too dumb to know. tariq nasheed knows how dumb some of you folks are so that's why he's pushing his dvd because he knows how some of you guys think. you aren't willing to put in the work because you want things handed to you on a silver spoon. he can pimp your mind and he can pimp your wallet. there's nothing worse than someone who basically takes for granted that it's someone else's job to teach them shyt when they aren't willing to learn themselves.
 
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I don't know any black, accredited scholar who lends this film any credit. I'm talking nikkas who are deep into this shyt. Like black filmmakers who have won awards and who have "staple" black films in the black community. Professors who are known for their ideology on black culture/history,etc. , so therefore, if you have been listening to black history way before why do you not question the fact that none of the people you supposed would be listening to back this nikkas shyt up?

That's my only reasoning here. Just seems like a whole bunch of dudes who grew up in white washed areas, with white washed teachers, finally hearing something from black people so they take any and everything to be truth. :manny:
If they haven't publicly refuted the documentary, how do you know they don't back this shyt up? Because they wasn't in the documentary?
:usure:how do you know this? what books have you read that coincide with what he said? let's keep it real. unless you really do your research, read some books and etc, you really don't know if the dvd is as accurate as you and some of these people think it is. don't get mad @ me because i'm making a point.

anybody could do the same shyt but you're willing to give a guy who basically has made his career on giving guy's dating tips the benefit of the doubt. :mindblown: there's really no hope for some of you dudes. maybe you should just stick with what you know.


Off that top of my head...
- They came before Columbus
- Medical Apartheid
- The African Origin Of Civilization
- The New Jim Crow
- Stolen Legacy
- Sundown Towns
etc

Just admit you don't like the man... and keep it moving. The information he's presenting isn't even his information.. so if you got problems with it... why you attack Tariq, why don't you go at the the authors of those books? Authors who damn near dedicated there whole lives to researching these topics. How can you hate on Tariq, when he put in his own money and the effort(phoning museums, interviews etc) to even produce a documentary on information you'd never see or even be allowed on the white washed history channel. You a clown breh.. you make assumptions.. you assume people don't read books prior to the dvd.. you assume people don't question the information on the dvd.. :snoop:
 

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:usure:how do you know this? what books have you read that coincide with what he said? let's keep it real. unless you really do your research, read some books and etc, you really don't know if the dvd is as accurate as you and some of these people think it is. don't get mad @ me because i'm making a point. if you can't even read a book or let alone READ, how can you get by in this world? don't tell me that you and these folks are that fukking lazy to READ. i guess that explains the whole "too long, didn't read" bullshyt and then yet folks wonder why their asses get screwed over when they don't read the cell phone company contract plan before they sign. they wonder why they get screwed over.

anybody could do the same shyt and i'm sure you wouldn't give a fukk, ready to play it off as some crap but you're willing to give a guy who basically has made his career on giving guy's dating tips the benefit of the doubt. :mindblown: tariq is a businessman and a part of being a businessman is being a conman. a businessman is more concerned about making money off of his product than the quality of it. there's really no hope for some of you dudes. maybe you should just stick with what you know.

and the point of what i said concerning rustin bayard is to show how uneducated a lot of you motherfukkers are. you just talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk a lot of shyt just to talk shyt. breh, even if i said something of substance, you wouldn't know because you would be too dumb to know. tariq nasheed knows how dumb some of you folks are so that's why he's pushing his dvd because he knows how some of you guys think. you aren't willing to put in the work because you want things handed to you on a silver spoon. he can pimp your mind and he can pimp your wallet. there's nothing worse than someone who basically takes for granted that it's someone else's job to teach them shyt when they aren't willing to learn themselves.
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This is the dumbest shyt I've ever read. So going by that logic, someone who sells information via tangible books, e-books, audio books etc are conmen? It's like nikkas expect people to just give out free information. I'm sure any book you would tell people to read needs to be bought and was sold with the intention to obviously make money. There's this ugly entitlement some black people have where we feel like other black people shouldn't be in business to profit. Someone gotta eat right?
 

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This is the dumbest shyt I've ever read. So going by that logic, someone who sells information via tangible books, e-books, audio books etc are conmen? It's like nikkas expect people to just give out free information. I'm sure any book you would tell people to read needs to be bought and was sold with the intention to obviously make money. There's this ugly entitlement some black people have where we feel like other black people shouldn't be in business to profit. Someone gotta eat right?
These the same nikkas that won't buy from their own.
 

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If they haven't publicly refuted the documentary, how do you know they don't back this shyt up? Because they wasn't in the documentary?



Off that top of my head...
- They came before Columbus
- Medical Apartheid
- The African Origin Of Civilization
- The New Jim Crow
- Stolen Legacy
- Sundown Towns
etc

Just admit you don't like the man... and keep it moving. The information he's presenting isn't even his information.. so if you got problems with it... why you attack Tariq, why don't you go at the the authors of those books? Authors who damn near dedicated there whole lives to researching these topics. How can you hate on Tariq, when he put in his own money and the effort(phoning museums, interviews etc) to even produce a documentary on information you'd never see or even be allowed on the white washed history channel. You a clown breh.. you make assumptions.. you assume people don't read books prior to the dvd.. you assume people don't question the information on the dvd.. :snoop:
That dude dachampishere is a hater man, I notice damn near every thread about Tariq he comes in on his high horse trying to malign the guy for providing information. He picks a bone with Tariq yet I've yet to hear him criticize Dr.Phil Valentine, Dr.Umar Johnson, Frances Cress Welsing and several other cats that was on the doc. I know @DaChampIsHere is going to retort with a few pachaha smiles and call us some juvenile lames. :snoop:
 

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If they haven't publicly refuted the documentary, how do you know they don't back this shyt up? Because they wasn't in the documentary?



Off that top of my head...
- They came before Columbus
- Medical Apartheid
- The African Origin Of Civilization
- The New Jim Crow
- Stolen Legacy
- Sundown Towns
etc


Just admit you don't like the man... and keep it moving. The information he's presenting isn't even his information.. so if you got problems with it... why you attack Tariq, why don't you go at the the authors of those books? Authors who damn near dedicated there whole lives to researching these topics. How can you hate on Tariq, when he put in his own money and the effort(phoning museums, interviews etc) to even produce a documentary on information you'd never see or even be allowed on the white washed history channel. You a clown breh.. you make assumptions.. you assume people don't read books prior to the dvd.. you assume people don't question the information on the dvd.. :snoop:

No one has any problem with THOSE topics. I agree with you on those topics.

What about the criticisms I listed throughout the film?
 

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Why Am I Not The 3 Biggest Clown On The Coli Cosigning Each Other :mjpls:


breh, what i'm saying is quite simple. if you REALLY want to know something, you can't rely on a damn dvd from a businessman to get THAT knowledge.
If they haven't publicly refuted the documentary, how do you know they don't back this shyt up? Because they wasn't in the documentary?



Off that top of my head...
- They came before Columbus
- Medical Apartheid
- The African Origin Of Civilization
- The New Jim Crow
- Stolen Legacy
- Sundown Towns
etc

Just admit you don't like the man... and keep it moving. The information he's presenting isn't even his information.. so if you got problems with it... why you attack Tariq, why don't you go at the the authors of those books? Authors who damn near dedicated there whole lives to researching these topics. How can you hate on Tariq, when he put in his own money and the effort(phoning museums, interviews etc) to even produce a documentary on information you'd never see or even be allowed on the white washed history channel. You a clown breh.. you make assumptions.. you assume people don't read books prior to the dvd.. you assume people don't question the information on the dvd.. :snoop:

have you actually READ those books or are you just mentioning them for the sake of mentioning them?

hell, and if he's basically taking information from books and shyt that's out there and putting them on a dvd, then that's even worse. :laff: dude is basically exploiting shyt. dude is just pimping people's pockets. giving him credit for taking other people's shyt and talking about "hidden colors". sit your ass on down.
 

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This is the dumbest shyt I've ever read. So going by that logic, someone who sells information via tangible books, e-books, audio books etc are conmen? It's like nikkas expect people to just give out free information. I'm sure any book you would tell people to read needs to be bought and was sold with the intention to obviously make money. There's this ugly entitlement some black people have where we feel like other black people shouldn't be in business to profit. Someone gotta eat right?

NO, that's not what i said. man, my point flew over your head.
 

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That dude dachampishere is a hater man, I notice damn near every thread about Tariq he comes in on his high horse trying to malign the guy for providing information. He picks a bone with Tariq yet I've yet to hear him criticize Dr.Phil Valentine, Dr.Umar Johnson, Frances Cress Welsing and several other cats that was on the doc. I know @DaChampIsHere is going to retort with a few pachaha smiles and call us some juvenile lames. :snoop:

Alright. Lets go here.

Dr. Phil Valentine was bullshytting EASILY 50% of the time. EASILY. It was so frustrating. Dude would talk about how poppers work (amyl nitrates) then go off the rails about how HIV isn't real and doesn't exist...WHICH IS fukkING FALSE. If he'd said HIV didn't originate in simian populations, i'd have lost it (because we have proof they did. I stand by every word in this podcast: http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/ ). Dude would talk about racial politics...then say something COMPLETELY untrue about melanin.

There was another guy in HC2 who was kinda skinny but had on rectangular glasses. I forgot his name. That nikka had me ready to slap him over half the religious shyt and factually unscientific shyt he was saying.

Michelle Alexander was on point. Cress-Welsing didn't really go in like that. Tariq's literal contributions were on point. Even KRS-One didn't bother me too much.

I mean goddamn...read "Doctor" ( :mjpls: ) Phil Valentine's personal blog: http://kemetaphysics.blogspot.com/

There was this bald bigger guy with a white beard who was on point too.
 

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Alright. Lets go here.

Dr. Phil Valentine was bullshytting EASILY 50% of the time. EASILY. It was so frustrating. Dude would talk about how poppers work (amyl nitrates) then go off the rails about how HIV isn't real and doesn't exist...WHICH IS fukkING FALSE. If he'd said HIV didn't originate in simian populations, i'd have lost it (because we have proof they did. I stand by every word in this podcast: http://www.radiolab.org/2011/nov/14/ ). Dude would talk about racial politics...then say something COMPLETELY untrue about melanin.

There was another guy in HC2 who was kinda skinny but had on rectangular glasses. I forgot his name. That nikka had me ready to slap him over half the religious shyt and factually unscientific shyt he was saying.

Michelle Alexander was on point. Cress-Welsing didn't really go in like that. Tariq's literal contributions were on point. Even KRS-One didn't bother me too much.
lol.
I haven't seen Hidden Colors 2 yet but i don't see why you're venting. I look at it like this, I'd rather watch something that's 70% factual with 30% of the content being arguable or speculative to say the last vs say watching a damn documentary crediting the advance civilizations of yesterday to space aliens. Like they'd rather not talk about the civilizations having remotely anything to do with being black so they just throw aliens in the mix.
 
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