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It's not about who you know, it's about what you can prove. I don't know if he doctored the balls and I don't have enough proof for me to believe that he did.

Well what you need to realize is that is your opinion as a Boston Homer

Again the ball boy referred to himself as "The Deflater" and they are seen on camera taking the balls into the bathroom after they were inspected

These two bits of information is enough "proof" to clear minded thinking human beings for Its common sense that they would not do this on their own accord..



Even if he files and wins this case the damage is already done.. Its like OJ "won" but we all know he had something to do with it.
 

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It's not about who you know, it's about what you can prove. I don't know if he doctored the balls and I don't have enough proof for me to believe that he did.
Nah dog. You don't get to talk around riding for Brady using some racist ass site and calling it unbiased. You must think niqqas in here are unlearned on who Breitbart is.

How the fukk do you defend that bullshyt and even dap anyone that does? You riding for Brady THAT MUCH? What black man would ever use THAT site? and call THAT site unbiased? :childplease:
 

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I'm sorry you don't understand how this legal process works.

The point is that the onus is on the league to prove based solely on the Wells report findings that Brady's punishment wasn't arbitrary and capricious and that Brady engaged in conduct detrimental to the league.

With the report's findings, it's unlikely that the league has sufficient evidence under the preponderance of the evidence standard. The report has way too many holes, conjecture and omissions.

If those balls boys get called into court you really think they won't roll on Brady once faced with perjury charges

lol.. Y'all really just need to take y'alls L and come back strong in week 5
 

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Well what you need to realize is that is your opinion as a Boston Homer

Again the ball boy referred to himself as "The Deflater" and they are seen on camera taking the balls into the bathroom after they were inspected

These two bits of information is enough "proof" to clear minded thinking human beings for Its common sense that they would not do this on their own accord..



Even if he files and wins this case the damage is already done.. Its like OJ "won" but we all know he had something to do with it.

In the court of law, those 2 bits of information is not enough to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that Brady doctored or ordered the footballs to be doctored. Try again.

And my homerism has nothing to do with my legal analysis. I'm analyzing this issue as an attorney.
 

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It's not about who you know, it's about what you can prove. I don't know if he doctored the balls and I don't have enough proof for me to believe that he did.
There was no definitive proof that roethlisberger raped women yet he was still suspended. Greg Hardy was never found guilty of beating the crap out of women but he was still suspended.
This isn't a criminal case, it isn't even civili case, the nfl operates by its own guidelines.

Furthermore Brady hindered the investigation
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/ted_wells_offered_to_let_tom_b.html
"And I want to be crystal clear," Wells continued.
"I told Mr. Brady and his agents that I was willing not to take possession of his phone. I said, 'I don't want to see any private information.' I said, 'You keep the phone. You're the agent. Mr. (Don) Yee, you can look at the phone. You give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you are giving me what's responsive. And they still refused.


Pats also blocked wells from conducting a second interview with the deflator
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/takeaways_from_ted_wells_confe.html#incart_story_package
Wells provided some context Tuesday, clarifying that NFL security personnel had interviewed Jim McNally three times before he was brought on to investigate the case. Wells only had interviewed McNally once, and he was interested in a follow-up interview.

"The Patriots provided me, in my opinion, with substantial cooperation except in one crucial and critical area: I wanted to do a second interview of Jim McNally," Wells said. "Jim McNally was the second Patriots person I interviewed. I wanted, after interviewing others — including Tom Brady — to do a second interview of Jim McNally, to put some questions to him. And I also discovered after the first interview one of the most important text messages, where Jim McNally not only calls himself 'The Deflator' but says he 'has not gone to ESPN....yet.' Which is akin, as far as I'm concerned, to saying, 'I have not gone to the media yet to report what I'm doing.' And I had not found that text at the time of the first interview. I wanted to confront him with that."

"I asked for a second interview," Wells continued. "I said I would go to New Hampshire (his home). I would interview him in the morning, the afternoon, night — I didn't care. I would make myself available whenever I was free. And not only did (the Patriots) say I couldn't interview him. They said they wouldn't even tell him about my request for an interview. So on that particular point, which was critical to this investigation, they did not cooperate. The report sets that out."




Again this isn't a criminal case. Perception matters. Brady looks guilty and they punished him accordingly.
 

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If those balls boys get called into court you really think they won't roll on Brady once faced with perjury charges

lol.. Y'all really just need to take y'alls L and come back strong in week 5

The ball boys won't get called into court seeing as the court would only be REVIEWING the league's report and discipline and making a judgment accordingly.
 

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There was no definitive proof that roethlisberger raped women yet he was still suspended. Greg Hardy was never found guilty of beating the crap out of women but he was still suspended.
This isn't a criminal case, it isn't even civili case, the nfl operates by its own guidelines.

Furthermore Brady hindered the investigation
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/ted_wells_offered_to_let_tom_b.html
"And I want to be crystal clear," Wells continued.
"I told Mr. Brady and his agents that I was willing not to take possession of his phone. I said, 'I don't want to see any private information.' I said, 'You keep the phone. You're the agent. Mr. (Don) Yee, you can look at the phone. You give me documents that are responsive to this investigation and I will take your word that you are giving me what's responsive. And they still refused.


Pats also blocked wells from conducting a second interview with the deflator
http://blog.masslive.com/patriots/2015/05/takeaways_from_ted_wells_confe.html#incart_story_package
Wells provided some context Tuesday, clarifying that NFL security personnel had interviewed Jim McNally three times before he was brought on to investigate the case. Wells only had interviewed McNally once, and he was interested in a follow-up interview.

"The Patriots provided me, in my opinion, with substantial cooperation except in one crucial and critical area: I wanted to do a second interview of Jim McNally," Wells said. "Jim McNally was the second Patriots person I interviewed. I wanted, after interviewing others — including Tom Brady — to do a second interview of Jim McNally, to put some questions to him. And I also discovered after the first interview one of the most important text messages, where Jim McNally not only calls himself 'The Deflator' but says he 'has not gone to ESPN....yet.' Which is akin, as far as I'm concerned, to saying, 'I have not gone to the media yet to report what I'm doing.' And I had not found that text at the time of the first interview. I wanted to confront him with that."

"I asked for a second interview," Wells continued. "I said I would go to New Hampshire (his home). I would interview him in the morning, the afternoon, night — I didn't care. I would make myself available whenever I was free. And not only did (the Patriots) say I couldn't interview him. They said they wouldn't even tell him about my request for an interview. So on that particular point, which was critical to this investigation, they did not cooperate. The report sets that out."




Again this isn't a criminal case. Perception matters. Brady looks guilty and they punished him accordingly.

All that doesn't change the fact that the league will have a tough time justifying its punishment. You bringing up Roethlisberger and Hardy doesn't make it more likely that the league's punishment was legally justified under either the arbitrary and capricious standard or the conduct detrimental to the the league standard.
 

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Why is it so difficult for you to wrap your head around the fact that the Wells report is heavily flawed?
 

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