Scholarships or Compensation. College Athletes can't do both.

[Easy-E]

Also, the discrepancy between the divisions of colleges AND sport-specific revenue is something that needs to be resolved.

College athletes are asked to do demanding things, but knowing the ones I saw that were in non-major sports OR at D-2 and D-3 schools, they managed to not only thrive but to utilize their scholastic opportunities.

I think there is a role for amateurism and something has to remain in place to highlight that.







...on a side note, I wish US Soccer would allow more younger players to go into club level without attending college first ...we'd be a lot more competitive internationally if we could

There's professor at all these college

FIGURE IT OUT

No more excuses

 

[lutha]

so wheres the incentive to be paid? by the number of peouple who watch you play under a scholarship?

That doesn't make sense to me.

Honestly, I feel that people cape for student athletes too much.

I was a so-so athlete in high school, excellent student though. Its a choice you have to make. These are 18 year olds that in any other case we treat as adults who can enter the military, vote, and do all sorts of other things. And some of them want to pursue hours and hours of commitment to playing sports. You can't have it both ways.

Fact remains however, that people treat student athletes like damn near ambassadors. They keep letting these student athletes represent university talking positions and points on social issues and what not as if the other ACTUAL academics on those campuses don't have more to contribute.

THen when we all hear about the "I gotta help my mom out" talk, I get why many people are swayed.

But you help your mom with that degree...or going pro. The whole notion of "well people watch me play in school" means "I should be paid for every eyeball" doesn't make sense to me. Why aren't we paying high school players? I mean its literally the same thing. Its talent development in a structured atmosphere.

And I also think the utility of amateur sports needs to be valued more and held up as an institution.

I think theres reforms to be made in terms of students seeking jobs who are on athletic scholarships for example, but to claim that students deserve salaries...that makes no sense to me.

you all over the place man, and it seems your issue with them getting paid is rooted in you being a better student than athlete, and you feel some type of way you feel about how society treats athletes compared to non-athletes....i'm not getting into that lol....i'm just drop an answer to your question about 'what's the incentive':

the incentive for them to be paid comes from all the money they are bringing into those schools....which is the same incentive that the people in charge/with power use when it comes to negotiating contracts, switching conferences, putting schedules together, etc....yea, the players are called 'student athletes', but when it comes to increasing the money making potential of schools, the people in charge are rarely concerned about the 'student', and are only care with the 'athlete'....it even shows when they are 'given' (like they dont earn it through their play) scholarships....when on scholarship, student athletes are not allowed to make any money; receive anything that is looked at as a 'benefit' cause they are an athlete or it can jeopardize said scholarship, including shyt like having someone buy them dinner, a suit, movie tickets, etc.; not only that, but those scholarships had to renewed every year because coaches didnt like having to commit to players just in case a 'student athlete' didnt pan out and/or there was a 'student athlete' coming along that looked like he/she had more potential (this was recently changed a couple years ago, and they made scholarships 4 years as a way to combat people using it as a point as to why they should get paid, which shows you know the people in charge know they are full of shyt)......

just cause they put 'student' at the front of 'student athlete', doesnt make it amateur, and people need to stop pretending like it does....it stopped being amateur when the decisions started being made based off money, and the first contracts were signed (i'm talking coach, radio/tv, etc)...so if they are gonna treat them like professionals (which is shown when they change the rules to make the 'amateur' game more 'pro like') and make money off them, pay them & share some of the money they are bringing in/earning....hell, it already happens...blue chips is real, and student athletes are given money, perks, benefits, etc. it's just all done under the table...so instead of doing it behind closed doors, just make it official....the only reason they wont do that is greed...as long as it's not official, they can give them as much as they want, which tends to be very lil while the powers keep the main take....if it was made official, it would mean the powers would have to give up more of the take, and they dont want to do that....

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

you all over the place man, and it seems your issue with them getting paid is rooted in you being a better student than athlete, and you feel some type of way you feel about how society treats athletes compared to non-athletes....i'm not getting into that lol....i'm just drop an answer to your question about 'what's the incentive':

the incentive for them to be paid comes from all the money they are bringing into those schools....which is the same incentive that the people in charge/with power use when it comes to negotiating contracts, switching conferences, putting schedules together, etc....yea, the players are called 'student athletes', but when it comes to increasing the money making potential of schools, the people in charge are rarely concerned about the 'student', and are only care with the 'athlete'....it even shows when they are 'given' (like they dont earn it through their play) scholarships....when on scholarship, student athletes are not allowed to make any money; receive anything that is looked at as a 'benefit' cause they are an athlete or it can jeopardize said scholarship, including shyt like having someone buy them dinner, a suit, movie tickets, etc.; not only that, but those scholarships had to renewed every year because coaches didnt like having to commit to players just in case a 'student athlete' didnt pan out and/or there was a 'student athlete' coming along that looked like he/she had more potential (this was recently changed a couple years ago, and they made scholarships 4 years as a way to combat people using it as a point as to why they should get paid, which shows you know the people in charge know they are full of shyt)......

just cause they put 'student' at the front of 'student athlete', doesnt make it amateur, and people need to stop pretending like it does....it stopped being amateur when the decisions started being made based off money, and the first contracts were signed (i'm talking coach, radio/tv, etc)...so if they are gonna treat them like professionals (which is shown when they change the rules to make the 'amateur' game more 'pro like') and make money off them, pay them & share some of the money they are bringing in/earning....hell, it already happens...blue chips is real, and student athletes are given money, perks, benefits, etc. it's just all done under the table...so instead of doing it behind closed doors, just make it official....the only reason they wont do that is greed...as long as it's not official, they can give them as much as they want, which tends to be very lil while the powers keep the main take....if it was made official, it would mean the powers would have to give up more of the take, and they dont want to do that....

Let's say I try to find a way to allow people to get approved types of small jobs.

Then what?

Students get that money for the school. Not themselves.

The system is set up to attend college then go to the pros.

Until we have a club system your just make is sound like you want special treatment.

The rules aren't meant to be easy or nice. They are meant to enforce a certain idea or standard.

I do not think student athletes should be paid.

 

[I.V.]

Original Post seems to lack any knowledge of the system he's speaking on. Throw this thread in the bushes,

 

[lutha]

Let's say I try to find a way to allow people to get approved types of small jobs.

Then what?

Students get that money for the school. Not themselves.

The system is set up to attend college then go to the pros.

Until we have a club system your just make is sound like you want special treatment.

The rules aren't meant to be easy or nice. They are meant to enforce a certain idea or standard.

I do not think student athletes should be paid.

i dont understand what you're saying lol...the first couple lines make no sense and the rest is jumping around....so i'm do this:

you dont think they should get paid, i disagree.....

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

i dont understand what you're saying lol...the first couple lines make no sense and the rest is jumping around....so i'm do this:

you dont think they should get paid, i disagree.....

You keep acting like I am unaware of the same shyt you keep repeating.

 

[Edub]

Money is simply a form of compensation.


If you're compensating players with scholarships that cost hundreds of thousands, then they're no longer amateur athletes. Theyre paid players.

I know what money is..... why are you telling me

Whether they give the money to the athletes or not.....the NCAA is a proprietary business ....just the profits escape the athletes and go directly to the schools and those associated with the collegiate sporting organization. Their is no demand that players in the NCAA be considered amateur anyway.....the only demand for that is so they can keep the proceeds from them. The NCAA could be considered a developmental league thereby allowing players to get paid....but they won't because they are greedy.....facts. The NCAA has to award scholarships because they are an educational organization at heart.....but they also should pay players because they have also become a for profit business .....if they want to play in both fields they have to pay in both fields

 

[Edub]

Yup. This is bullshyt. If you work at a college you can take classes for free, your kids get free tuition AND you get a paycheck every 2 weeks.

Of course they can do both

People get so entrapped in status quo thought that they simply hate on the well being of the athletes that entertain us (majority minorities mind you) in defense of organizations that not only rob proceeds from young kids but also gouge society as a whole .....school tuitions go up yearly basically, so does housing and board.....not to mention the money they make from real estate development, university hospitals and public sector agreements in general ......we don't even want to consider alumni contributions and endowment funds.......the collegiate system is the largest racket going and they avoid many taxes with "non-profit" status ......and yet some of these shmucks are defending them against payin a few kids who add so much to they're already lined pockets.....these clowns are the definition of busters