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So a teams like Texas,Nebraska,Miami,scUM,USC were more deserving than Oregon,TCU,Baylor,MSU,and Houston over the last few years?
I said 30 teams

Houston isn't deserving of anything

Oregon would be in the 30

I said this wasn't perfect nor have I wrote any of this out. I was talking in the abstract
 

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Crazy that Georgia Tech isnt the SEC (I'm a geography guy, I know it's deeper than the map) considering that Atlanta is the fourth closest city to the SEC offices in Birmingham (behind Tuscaloosa, Auburn, and Starkville).

When Mizzou came in, I didn't like geographical aspect, or even football aspect of it. I thought it would boost the conference from a basketball standpoint because they were really good at the time.
 

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All this is nice, but doing this will kill OU football because the reality is that proximity and favorable weather for our recruiting base, compared to the B1G is better in the Big XII or SEC

I don't know about this.

We've all but stopped relying on recruiting Texas hard with all the kids we get from west coast and now the East Coast due to Lincoln Riley.
BUT, I don't think that will stop kids from Texas from wanting to come to OU. Unless they cancel the RR Shootout game, then that may be an issue.

Aside from that, going to the B1G we would then recruit a few kids from great football states like Ohio, Michigan. I still think OU games would be shown on TV thruout state of Texas. And I don't think 1-2 snowy games in B1G territory would sway many recruits or fans.
 

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Longhorn network would have to go since the ACC tier 3 rights will be part of the ACC Network. Texas ain't giving that shyt up.
The only thing I can say about that is both are owned by espn. If they could cut a deal to fuse the LHN into the ACC network, it could work.

I'll say this, if Texas and/or ESPN cut the cord of LHN, that would signal Texas is willing to listen and work as a team player. If that happened, the Pac 12, Big 10, ACC, and maybe even the SEC would run calling fast. Because... Money.

Texas in the SEC shuts every conference out of the state. You'd be hard pressed to get recruits out of the hands of a SEC conference of Texas, OU, LSU, Arkansas, A&M, etc. The best athletes are staying in this conference. Texas and OU in the ACC gives the ACC access to Texas markets and recruits. It would likely compete with the SEC instantly and could revive Miami as well. Texas and OU in the Pac 12 gives that conference control of everything west of the Mississippi River and access into three time zones. Texas and OU in the Big 10 gives you a big money maker that will rival the SEC.

Me personally, I don't think there should be more than 10 teams per conference but it is what is in these days.
 

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texas Is not coming into the SEC. No way, no how. Its about TV footprint.

Plus Arkansas and TAMU would block them right away. Plus with LSU, I think the ability to have the reciprocated effect of Texas and LA recruits coming in and out is already happening with Sumlin. he recruits LA pretty hard.

The SEC is by all indication not looking to expand. And the only way it will is if one of the other conferences starts to poach first. If that happens, they will be looking East. One of the Virginia schools for sure.
 

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Crazy that Georgia Tech isnt the SEC (I'm a geography guy, I know it's deeper than the map) considering that Atlanta is the fourth closest city to the SEC offices in Birmingham (behind Tuscaloosa, Auburn, and Starkville).

Georgia Tech is one of the founding members of the SEC!

They belong in the SEC. But, it'll never happen. They aren't going to be let back in.

Georgia Tech erred when it left the SEC
 
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they wouldn't be little bros IMO.

But South Carolina and Florida will not allow that shyt anyway, so it's a moot point. Doesn't add anything either. They need other regions. North Carolina schools would be good, but yall don't understand the Tobacco Road Mafia :francis:

Texas won't be able to Deebo the SEC Schools like they do the big 12 now. Okie and Okie State though :patrice: But what do they add?
Can you explain more about this on the bold?
Crazy that Georgia Tech isnt the SEC (I'm a geography guy, I know it's deeper than the map) considering that Atlanta is the fourth closest city to the SEC offices in Birmingham (behind Tuscaloosa, Auburn, and Starkville).

When Mizzou came in, I didn't like geographical aspect, or even football aspect of it. I thought it would boost the conference from a basketball standpoint because they were really good at the time.
Yeah I agree with this, I prefer the conferences to be geography as well.

I don't like that Pitt, Boston College, and Syracuse are in the ACC(to far up north). They should have added West Virginia and other sountren schools(with a decent or better football team) the ACC instead.
 

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I don't know about this.

We've all but stopped relying on recruiting Texas hard with all the kids we get from west coast and now the East Coast due to Lincoln Riley.
BUT, I don't think that will stop kids from Texas from wanting to come to OU. Unless they cancel the RR Shootout game, then that may be an issue.

Aside from that, going to the B1G we would then recruit a few kids from great football states like Ohio, Michigan. I still think OU games would be shown on TV thruout state of Texas. And I don't think 1-2 snowy games in B1G territory would sway many recruits or fans.

Trust me when I say this.... You don't want OU in the PAC-12 or B1G! Time and distance differentials will affect on-field performance. Nebraska aren't dominant anymore because they lost their Texas recruiting base (and the elimination of the parrial qualifier rule).

We may not be recruiting Texas as hard as the past, we haven't abandoned it either.... and we won't. As for playing Texas, you may be right, but I'm personally willing to take that (calculated) risk that OU will keep their recruiting in-roads and visibility in Texas, ONLY if we moved to the SEC. I know A&M isn't Texas, but this is about self-preservation. As big as our rivalry with Nebraska used to be, it's over, bruh! It's time to make new ones; no better place than the football belt, the SEC. After we move, everyone is going to LOVE the SEC and OU will become an even bigger football school!
 
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