SEC's myth trumps its reality, Stoops says

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Yea I read that yesterday. Funny he says that while negating that it's more due to attrition as well when it comes the defenses of LSU and UGA. A&M never had a defense and Bama's D has been "so so"


maybe Stoops should worry about his own team winning its own conference rather than the SEC

this nikka must be salty as fukk at top recruits turning him down cause they wanna play in the SEC

Maybe it started off as myth, and if so, it's great marketing by SEC schools individually and by the conference as a whole.

The TALENT in the SEC is superior though. It's been that way for years now, solidified by the Draft nearly every year.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoo...aft-by-conference-sec-doubles-the-competition

Stoops can theorize all he wants, but NFL scouts will tell you that the SEC does have superior talent. It's not even close.

hes trying to twist the defenses falling back this year as evidence that the sec has never been that good. which is a crock that you can file right along with all the other conspiracy theories and or excuses for the sec being the best conference the past 7 years, and no thats not just based on the national champion.

the pac 12 just might challenge the sec this year. its going to come down to washington, ucla, and maybe 1 or 2 others proving theyre top 25 caliber teams. theyre getting the resources, the coaches, and the athletes to be a very good conference. sucks for them that southern cal went in the toilet.


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I don't see how people can doubt that at this point. I can understand the SEC fatigue though.
I am objective enough to admit that Stoops WAS RIGHT about Mizzou and A&M coming to the SEC and having their way would be indicative of the SEC not being some god conference top to bottom.

However, talent is talent, even at the next level...
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/1/25/3914020/pro-bowl-rosters-2013-college

And don't get it twisted at all, I think I even posted in here where I stand as far as the SEC-fandom goes. I'm not an SEC fanboy at all, and I think the fratbro mentality of "We're in the same conference so we're all BROTHERS!" is stupid.
 

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I will say that I am thoroughly unimpressed with Bama/Saban after this game. This wasn't even a top-tier Stoops OU. This was a "Oh, we won ten games again?" OU team. They were supposed to be young, and they were supposed to be a mess that Bama could gut-punch for four quarters.

The tape was out that OU can't stop the run, and for whatever reason, Saban was bent on giving McCarron his day. It backfired in a major way, and Stoops didn't let them wiggle out of the mess that Bama found themselves in.

Ultimately, Stoops called the SEC flagships (and entire conference) out, and he backed his word up. To the victor go the spoils, and now HE can be the one waving "I told you so's" in front of recruits.

Between the Auburn game, and tonight, I'm scratching my head and wondering where Saban went.
 

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I see during that time periods' alignment.
24-36-1 in the past ~20 years
18-27 since the 2000's+ "SEC Dominance" Era

I feel like that tells a pretty convincing story

However, again, he was right. The SEC's "dominance" has been vastly exaggerated to the point of god status, and it's still college football. Stoops is a good coach that overachieved with this particular OU team, and they didn't back down from Bama or the challenge that he set for himself.
 

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I will say that I am thoroughly unimpressed with Bama/Saban after this game. This wasn't even a top-tier Stoops OU. This was a "Oh, we won ten games again?" OU team. They were supposed to be young, and they were supposed to be a mess that Bama could gut-punch for four quarters.

The tape was out that OU can't stop the run, and for whatever reason, Saban was bent on giving McCarron his day. It backfired in a major way, and Stoops didn't let them wiggle out of the mess that Bama found themselves in.

Ultimately, Stoops called the SEC flagships (and entire conference) out, and he backed his word up. To the victor go the spoils, and now HE can be the one waving "I told you so's" in front of recruits.

Between the Auburn game, and tonight, I'm scratching my head and wondering where Saban went.

I see what ur saying but, it wasn't quite that.....

In the 2nd quarter I said to myself, maybe those quick Bama TD's on those long passes are a blessing for us, b/c it got them away from having to put together a typical methodical Alabama drive. McCarron had 300+ in the 1st half!!! THey had the POINTS, But they had no balance/rhythm b/c of it all coming on big plays.

Crazy how Drake didnt even get in the game tho, and he gave up on Yeldon after the fumble....but then again, Yeldon was smiling on the sideline afterwards, so maybe that got back to Saban.

If only we could've tackled #27....smh
 

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I see what ur saying but, it wasn't quite that.....

In the 2nd quarter I said to myself, maybe those quick Bama TD's on those long passes are a blessing for us, b/c it got them away from having to put together a typical methodical Alabama drive. McCarron had 300+ in the 1st half!!! But they had no balance/rhythm b/c of that.

Crazy how Drake didnt even get in the game tho, and he gave up on Yeldon after the fumble....but then again, Yeldon was smiling on the sideline afterwards, so maybe that got back to Saban.

If only we could've tackled #27....smh
The scouting report was out on OU that if you can run the ball, you can beat OU. However, Saban and Bama took to the skies over and over and over and over and over. Sure, McCarron had a shyt ton of yards, but OU's defense was ultimately bend but don't break, and McCarron was never truly poised in my opinion. He was dropping back, looking, looking, looking, shyt gotta go gotta go gotta go gotta go [sack or thrown away].

I think that if Saban had to do it over, he would have crammed the ball in 27's stomach every play and told him to head North-South. By the time that 27 was fully ingesting yards and carries and defenders, it was too late to lean on him. The Bama defense was like "Oh fukk us, fukk this!" They needed breathers, they needed Bama to control the game.

I know that McCarron had some nice yards, and that's great, but he wasn't the player to put the game on tonight. It was apparent that OU wasn't going to let that happen and/or he wasn't up to it on this particular night.

I don't think that I'm over thinking this when I say that Stoops was ready and willing to play the air it out game. He made Bama play a BigXII game pretty much. I feel like Stoops saw those AJ passing yards and scoffed them off.
 
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24-36-1 in the past ~20 years
18-27 since the 2000's+ "SEC Dominance" Era

I feel like that tells a pretty convincing story

However, again, he was right. The SEC's "dominance" has been vastly exaggerated to the point of god status, and it's still college football. Stoops is a good coach that overachieved with this particular OU team, and they didn't back down from Bama or the challenge that he set for himself.
No, by that i meant the record youre using doesnt retcon as if current sec teams and big twelve teams were always there...not a judgement just an understanding of the record you posted
 

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The scouting report was out on OU that if you can run the ball, you can beat OU. However, Saban and Bama took to the skies over and over and over and over and over. Sure, McCarron had a shyt ton of yards, but OU's defense was ultimately bend but don't break, and McCarron was never truly poised in my opinion. He was dropping back, looking, looking, looking, shyt gotta go gotta go gotta go gotta go [sack or thrown away].

I think that if Saban had to do it over, he would have crammed the ball in 27's stomach every play and told him to head North-South. By the time that 27 was fully ingesting yards and carries and defenders, it was too late to lean on him. The Bama defense was like "Oh fukk us, fukk this!" They needed breathers, they needed Bama to control the game.

I know that McCarron had some nice yards, and that's great, but he wasn't the player to put the game on tonight. It was apparent that OU wasn't going to let that happen and/or he wasn't up to it on this particular night.

I know what you mean, but I think Saban played it as the game went along. AJ just said in the presser that OU did some stuff Bama hadn't seen before on tape. So we caught them off guard a little, which we HAD TO DO to have any chance to win.

But I think Saban's plan was for Yeldon to be the main back, and work the #27 in in spells. But again, the quick TDs early on were FOOLS GOLD for them. The turnovers and them not getting our offense off the field in the 1st half were their real un-doing. We didnt punt until the 3rd quarter.

But our DB's played the game of their lives in the 2nd half in coverage and allowed the D-line to get off blocks and pressure AJ. We had more sacks tonight than the SEC had all year against them.
 

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I know what you mean, but I think Saban played it as the game went along. AJ just said in the presser that OU did some stuff Bama hadn't seen before on tape. So we caught them off guard a little, which we HAD TO DO to have any chance to win.

But I think Saban's plan was for Yeldon to be the main back, and work the #27 in in spells. But again, the quick TDs early on were FOOLS GOLD for them. The turnovers and them not getting our offense off the field in the 1st half were their real un-doing. We didnt punt until the 3rd quarter.

But our DB's played the game of their lives in the 2nd half in coverage and allowed the D-line to get off blocks and pressure AJ. We had more sacks tonight than the SEC had all year against them.
It all came together for OU no doubt. I wouldn't take anything away from Stoops or OU as a team after what I just saw, which was Bama getting handled for the first time in a while.

I still maintain that a running Bama would have faired better than Saban stubbornly attempting to shove his McCarron-led passing game down OU's throat, then getting behind the 8ball and having to stick with the passing game.
 
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