Senate approves $80 Billion more for Military; More than cost of making public colleges tuition free

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More than the cost of making public colleges tuition free all over the country.

THE SENATE’S MILITARY SPENDING INCREASE ALONE IS ENOUGH TO MAKE PUBLIC COLLEGE FREE

Alex Emmons

September 18 2017, 11:13 p.m.

ONE OF THE MOST controversial proposals put forward by Sen. Bernie Sanders during the 2016 presidential campaign was a pledge to make tuition free at public colleges and universities. Critics from both parties howled that the pie-in-the-sky idea would bankrupt the country. Where, after all, would the money come from?

Those concerns were brushed aside on Monday night, as the Senate overwhelmingly approved an $80 billion annual increase in military spending, enough to have fully satisfied Sanders’ campaign promise. Instead, the Senate handed President Trump far more than the $54 billion he asked for. The lavish spending package gives Trump a major legislative victory, allowing him to boast about fulfilling his promise of a “great rebuilding of the armed services.”

The bill would set the U.S.’s annual military budget at around $700 billion, putting it within range of matching the spending level at the height of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq.

To put that in further perspective: if the package becomes law, U.S. military spending would exceed the total spending of its next 10 rivals put together, going off of 2016 military spending estimates from the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI).

Put another way, with a $700 billion military budget, the U.S. would be spending more than three times as much as China on its military, and ten times as much as Russia. According to SIPRI, the U.S. already accounts for more than a third of all military spending:


The share of world military expenditure of the 15 states with the highest spending in 2016. (Credit, SIPRI)



Or with $80 billion a year you could make public colleges and universities in America tuition-free. In fact, Sanders’ proposal was only estimated to cost the federal government $47 billion per year.

If the additional military spending over the next ten years instead went to pay off student debt, it could come close to wiping it out entirely.

But proposals like that are written off as non-starters, even by Democrats. In her new book, Hillary Clinton compares Sanders’ idea to him nonsensically saying “America should get a pony.” And while concerns about the cost of ponies abound, few Democrats are raising similar concerns about military spending, even when it is meant for a commander-in-chief they consider reckless and unstable.

The Senate voted 89-8, with three senators not voting, to approve the military money. Spendthrift Bernie Sanders joined only four Democrats to vote against the bill: Senators Kirstin Gillibrand of New York, Patrick Leahy of Vermont, and Jeff Merkley and Ron Wyden from Oregon. Republicans Bob Corker of Tennessee, Rand Paul of Kentucky and Mike Lee of Utah also voted against it.

When Trump submitted a budget proposal in March, which cut social spending dramatically to fund a $54 billion increase in defense spending, Democrats criticized it as a non-starter. Senate Minority leader Chuck Schumer said he “emphatically opposed” the blueprint, and Nancy Pelosi said the budget “throws billions of dollars at defense while ransacking” health and education funding.

Before the bill becomes law, it is has to be reconciled with the version the House already passed, which contains a similar $77 billion spending increase. It is likely to become law by the end of the year.
 

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This is why America's ranking for completion of tertiary education for 25-64 year olds ranks 44th.
it ain't looking good for any of your other ratings too :mjlol:
but y'all got mad military might :mjlol:
those 25-40 year olds need to join the military. that's where the jobs are apparently. then we can indoctrinate them in more conservative ideology :ahh:. wash, rinse, repeat.
 

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We should at least admit that if we make college free, the value of entry level jobs will diminish.

We want that stratification. No one wants to admit this.
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some silly argument that if everyone has access to a bachelors then it won't have the same value it has now. i guess that's a "good" argument against all education. if only a select few have a high school diploma then those in society with a high school diploma can make bank.
 

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those 25-40 year olds need to join the military. that's where the jobs are apparently. then we can indoctrinate them in more conservative ideology :ahh:. wash, rinse, repeat.
The funniest part is a lot of my classmates from high school joined and they all vote that way while getting paid like shyt :heh:
 

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We should at least admit that if we make college free, the value of entry level jobs will diminish.

We want that stratification. No one wants to admit this.
Going to college isn't the same as finishing college. Those who can finish a degree, particularly in technical fields, should be in the workforce. If you offset this for example with decreasing reliance on H1-b workers or outsourcing, I think it will balance.

Secondly, lets say this doesn't happen and what you say is true. I rather see a decline in some wages, despite thinking my scenario is more likely, if it means more people have access to economic mobility. In fact, taking a demand side economic argument, this will actually increase wages through increase spending power which leads to more demand for jobs to keep up with increased demand. I see more valid arguments against what you propose will happen than the oposite.

I'm still of the opinion as I was during the election and my disagreement with Bernie. I don't think free college should be unconditional. You need to have some mechanism that the people who use the system are going to pay back into it more times than not. If everyone is obtaining a useless degree that has no applicability to the job market, then its a waste of money. I would hope we see more nurses, doctors, engineers, programmers, entrepreneurs, designers, etc as a result of this. I don't want more starbucks baristas.

EDIT: I see you specified entry level jobs. I misread your post. I'm not sure I understand your point. Not being a jerk, as just genuinely confused by the argument. Why just entry level jobs a specific concern?
 
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