Serious question to Christians

[horizon]

You want the unfettered truth? Stop believing in fairy tales.

If the point is to be happier, studies show that religious people are happier than atheists

 

[calixprynce]

Jesus promised persecution not peace and trails and the sword not smiles do you nikkas read the bible or just skim through it?

Jesus is a fake Horus . Stop believing in super sky cacs

 

[TEH]

Jesus is a fake Horus . Stop believing in super sky cacs

Stop denying a Black man's existence cause your Cac professors told you sum bullshyt ...

 

[calixprynce]

Stop denying a Black man's existence cause your Cac professors told you sum bullshyt ...

my Goddess is Black . Idk who the fukk Jesus is . Thats a Greek name dumbass . Greek means "backwards"
go read some books

Jesus is a fake Horus. THAT you cannot deny and you know it

tf you hollerin Jesus for anyway if you aint a Christian . Real Christians dont celebrate Halloween , Christmas, Easter ,etc you dumb mf . How dumb are you?

 

[TEH]

my Goddess is Black . Idk who the fukk Jesus is . Thats a Greek name dumbass . Greek means "backwards"
go read some books

Jesus is a fake Horus. THAT you cannot deny and you know it

tf you hollerin Jesus for anyway if you aint a Christian . Real Christians dont celebrate Halloween , Christmas, Easter ,etc you dumb mf . How dumb are you?

Your Cac logic made Black Jesus cry

Cac b*stard Jesus ain't for you no way

Go worship a gold bar or something ... fukk outta here ...

 

[FrederickDouglas]

This is a non trolling question. Many people who say they give their life to Christ and start a relationship with him and experience such peace and happiness. I don't doubt their sincerity, but all I can say is I got involved in Christianity and/or religion in 2001. I was 11 years old(26 now), So from 11-13 I tried to follow this faith and all I felt was unhappiness, fear and guilt. What's your guys explanation? Anyone else experience those feelings following a specific faith? Not bashing Christianity, just being honest, it never gave me what many of you say you have. Maybe it was just me I guess (Sidenote: I'm not saying I'm happy now. I wasnt happy trying to follow Christianity, and I'm not happy now. I guess I need to sit down and figure out why that truly is and fix it)

Any number of things can provoke a euphoric response.

Being surrounded by people dancing and singing songs of praise, certain Bible passages or sermons having a profound effect on you, secure family unit united by their beliefs, the idea that death isn't the end of everything, the concepts of forgiveness and salvation, fellowship with other churchgoers, positive outcomes in personal life being attributed to God (i.e. I found my car keys! I won the lottery! Etc.), a sense of morality and stability, an ego boost from knowing that YOUR beliefs are the truth.

There's tons of reasons why people get positive experiences (peace and happiness) from religion (not just Christianity).

It's easy to get caught up in the fervor until you actually think about what you're supposed to believe and apply logic.

Religion is mainly based on emotion. The best preachers play off of the emotions of their followers. Logic doesn't enter in...except the occasional backwards logic designed to make believers feel more emotionally secure.

I don't believe in God. If God does indeed exist, he knows exactly why I feel that way. So if Judgement Day comes, I'll be shocked, but not concerned. If this hypothetical god is worth worshipping, he would not condemn me for my honest albeit misguided conclusion after a search for truth and he would perceive my innate lack of malice.

If he condemns me anyway, then he's not worth my worship.

 

[calixprynce]

Your Cac logic made Black Jesus cry


Cac b*stard Jesus ain't for you no way

Go worship a gold bar or something ... fukk outta here ...

you a slave c00n that need to be taught a lesson .

i should be banned right?


all you p*ssy ass c00ns call me a cac when I start pulling cards

thats how I know you c00ns from the suburbs

you scared of crackers B . no wonder you pray to a cracker god . what a slave

 

[Saiyajin]

Ok. But understand this. Nowhere in the bible does Jesus say he is God.

If you look there are about 90 actual bible verses that tell us so. His first followers all believed him to be a man. A messenger of God.

The Bible says that Jesus himself denied he is God.

Jesus spoke to a man who had called him ‘good,’ asking him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone.’ (Luke 18:19)

He prayed to God. Not to himself.

But how exactly did Jesus pray to God?

‘he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, ‘My Father’ (Matthew 26:39)

Many more examples breh

dont forget all the references to the Prophet pbuh in the Bible

“And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever," (John 14:16).

Book of Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse 18:

"I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and I will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him."

"And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned."

When Jibreel commanded Muhammad (pbuh) by saying Iqra - "Read", he replied, "I am not learned".

but the most powerful example is in Song of Solomon chapter 5 verse 16:

"His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
of Jerusalem." is the english translation but lets look at the original TEXT in its ORIGINAL language

"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem.

it was right infront of yall Christians the whole time if you only studied the scripture with an open mind

 

[FrederickDouglas]

If the point is to be happier, studies show that religious people are happier than atheists

Ignorance is bliss

 

[TEH]

you a slave c00n that need to be taught a lesson .

i should be banned right?


all you p*ssy ass c00ns call me a cac when I start pulling cards

thats how I know you c00ns from the suburbs

you scared of crackers B . no wonder you pray to a cracker god . what a slave

You gonna learn one day ...

 

[BujuBoombastic]

@DarkHorse23

I'm a religious man and I believe in God. If you're unhappy with the faith/religion itself you can try a different religion or venture out and broaden your horizons. You don't need to go to chruch or any higher spiritual places to worship God and just because people worship God in any spiritual places doesn't mean they're saved.

I believe God work in mysterious ways and if you feel unhappy then follow your heart. Good luck, bro.

 

[DarkHorse23]

Jesus promised persecution not peace and trails and the sword not smiles do you nikkas read the bible or just skim through it?

Ok great, well excuse me if I want and need a lord and savior who is going address my issues and problems. If my personal issues/pain is of no importance to God, and trivial, then it's hard to feel motivated to follow him. I'm not looking for candy and rainbows, but I want to be happy and have my problems addressed and for someone to come along and tell me they care. I won't apologize for that. I'm tired of being unhappy and feeling beat down by life. And stay out of my thread because you've pissed me off. Christians like you( because all aren't) are why I genuinely stay away from church. Instead of trying to help and understand a persons plight and pain, you sit up here and act like self righteous a$$holes. And dude you're talking to someone who knows scripture and knows how Christians try to share the gospel and bring people to Christ. Most don't approach unbelievers and say "hey I'm Johnny, become a Christian, it's going be hell, but follow Jesus". They say " if you're tired or weary of heart, come to him, he will bring you true peace and happiness, this is what my life was like, but I gave my life to Christ and he changed my life." People never come to you trying to recruit you(for anything in life) bringing up the negative, they always mention the positive, because if a person has drug addiction, suffering from depression, ect, what the hell is approaching them and telling them, hey follow this path which will lead to more hell. Ppl will have the attitude well if that's what your offering then I'll pass because I can struggle and go through hell all by myself. Most people seek out religion for inner peace, happiness or to fill a void in their life. That's a fact.

 

[DarkHorse23]

@DarkHorse23

I'm a religious man and I believe in God. If you're unhappy with the faith/religion itself you can try a different religion or venture out and broaden your horizons. You don't need to go to chruch or any higher spiritual places to worship God and just because people worship God in any spiritual places doesn't mean they're saved.

I believe God work in mysterious ways and if you feel unhappy then follow your heart. Good luck, bro.

I'm just unhappy in general bro. Majority of my unhappiness comes from the lack of women in my life, that's separate from faith/religion. However in times of death, I lost someone I loved last Tuesday, my faith and life after death always come back to the forefront of my mind, and my other person issues I put to the side. I know a real man has to be in touch with God, so it's something that never ever leaves my consciousness ever.

 

[Chrishaune]

Knowhere in the bible does it say that your walk with Christ will filled with Joy and peace and happiness. The reality is once you have decided to walk with Jesus you have signed up for a war. It is called the narrow path for a reason, because it is difficult to walk, there is a war going on around us since before the beginning of mans creation. A spiritual war between God and the forces of the Devil, once you follow Christ all you have done is chose a side. Talking from experience i will tell you the truth, the devil from that moment on will attack you in various ways. He will attack your thoughts and cause you to doubt or to think sinful and lustful thoughts continually. You will bump into people who drag you away from the right path and the minute you fall Satan hits you with his greatest weapon, guilt. He will push you and push you to stumble and sin and when you do he will flood with thoughts of guilt, tell you your a hypocrite and a bad christian, how God is angry with you and how can you do what you did, he will make you feel like you can never get it right. Guilt that makes you feel worthless and unhappy comes from the devil, the bible says the conviction of the holy spirit is by love and leads you to repentance and the desire to get up pick up your cross and try and try again until you get it right. The bible says the walk is long and hard but he that endures to the end will gain everlasting life. Nothing in this world is easy so what makes you think the most amazing gift you could ever have, eternal life in heaven in the presence of God would be easy? The world with God is the hardest thing you could ever do, but faith is essential, without faith in God and believe that he loves you and will not leave you then you will fall. The bible says we must put on our instruments of war everyday and be constantly ready for battle. that is the reality of this walk.

I have seen many things with my own two eyes, been attacked physically by demonic forces and seen them operate with other people. I have experienced this with people who don't even believe in the word. We live in the Devils domain, he is the ruler of this world, he has dominion over here and if you chose to try and follow Christ you are in direct opposition to the ruling regime on this planet and that is why many try and fail, they expect their life to suddenly be better and peaceful and that is not what happens and is not what the bible or Jesus taught would happen. The words of Jesus Christ in matthew 10:34, 'Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.'

Understand when you choose this life this is a life of war, constant war and not peace but as long as you see it through, put on your armour of God then victory has been promised to you by God himself and you then learn to no longer fight this war on the defensive but rather on the offensive.

Listen to this breh.....It's an all out war, and you have to take the initiative to allow God(Jesus) to guide you through your battles. He's got the cheat sheet, and knows the ins and outs of how everything operates. The Bible is the "sword of the spirit" and it is deadly to all your enemies. Everything that happens physically in this life has a spiritual beginning.

 

[kevm3]

What is the issue and source of your unhappiness? Your faith in Jesus is a powerful thing. You just have to know how to separate some of man's interpretation and your own relationship.