Serious questions about Christianity.

[Everythingg]

Deut 18:22 is referring to false prophets. We know certain events such as the temple being rebuilt has to occur. This month a pure red heifer was found and should be in Israel now. YouTube red heifer found as they have it on video. This will be only the 10th one since.

Oops that would be my mistake. That should have said Matthew 16:28

28 “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

This didnt happen according to the NT did it?

As I said Jesus will return but certain events need to happen first. My question is will people believe when Israel announces the building of the Temple since it was foretold in the Bible.

Im not sure you read my question correctly, but better yet, we'll leave that alone.

Jesus is one part of the Trinity. I think the Trinity could be explained like a triangle. 3 angles but 1 shape.

Wouldnt you say that Jesus believed Moses? IF so, why didnt Moses explain this "trinity" when telling Israel about God? Not only Moses, but the prophets that came after him?

 

[Thsnnor]

Oops that would be my mistake. That should have said Matthew 16:28

28 “Assuredly, I say to you, there are some standing here who shall not taste death till they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom.”

This didnt happen according to the NT did it?



Im not sure you read my question correctly, but better yet, we'll leave that alone.




Wouldnt you say that Jesus believed Moses? IF so, why didnt Moses explain this "trinity" when telling Israel about God? Not only Moses, but the prophets that came after him?

There are three people (if I'm not mistaken) who didn't die natural deaths in the Bible. Enoch, Elijah and Moses. In Revelation two prophets who did not die will come back and eventually die for three days before being resurrected and ascending to heaven. The strong favorite is Elijah and not sure about the other. Everyone will die at least once. Even the ones who ascended.

It's not a question about Jesus believing Moses but Jesus fulfilling the law Moses was given.

When Jesus was asked who he was he said I Am. When Moses asked the bush who it was it said I Am. Moses was unaware of the Trinity due to the Holy Spirit not coming until Jesus went to Heaven after his resurrection. Way after the time of Moses.

 

[Thsnnor]

Link?


Global Mean Annual Temperature
Average per Decade
Decade °C °F
1880s 13.73 56.71
1890s 13.75 56.74
1900s 13.74 56.73
1910s 13.72 56.70
1920s 13.83 56.89
1930s 13.96 57.12
1940s 14.04 57.26
1950s 13.98 57.16
1960s 13.99 57.18
1970s 14.00 57.20
1980s 14.18 57.52
1990s 14.31 57.76
2000s 14.51 58.12

Tried to find the link from the scientist who had the figures but all his info has been taken down and he was kicked out the community for talking about cooling rather than warming.

Since I can no longer prove it with the specific evidence I will no longer talk about it with out evidence in advance.

 

[Everythingg]

There are three people (if I'm not mistaken) who didn't die natural deaths in the Bible. Enoch, Elijah and Moses. In Revelation two prophets who did not die will come back and eventually die for three days before being resurrected and ascending to heaven. The strong favorite is Elijah and not sure about the other. Everyone will die at least once. Even the ones who ascended.

Jesus didnt say that to any of those men that you named. He said that to people at that time. Now the people of that time that he said that to are not alive to our knowledge. They tasted death before seeing the "son of man coming in his kingdom".

It's not a question about Jesus believing Moses but Jesus fulfilling the law Moses was given.

Does the law say something of it needing to be fulfilled? Not to my recollection.

When Jesus was asked who he was he said I Am. When Moses asked the bush who it was it said I Am. Moses was unaware of the Trinity due to the Holy Spirit not coming until Jesus went to Heaven after his resurrection. Way after the time of Moses.

57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

Dont you think there would be a better way of saying what you allege than this? To me, it seems he was telling them that he existed BEFORE Abraham did.

As well, you do believe God gave Moses and then Israel the commandments they received right? If so, then why would He do so then send someone else that would abolish and override those commandments? But not make that known in the original law so that they wouldnt REJECT said "someone"?

 

[Thsnnor]

Jesus didnt say that to any of those men that you named. He said that to people at that time. Now the people of that time that he said that to are not alive to our knowledge. They tasted death before seeing the "son of man coming in his kingdom".




Does the law say something of it needing to be fulfilled? Not to my recollection.



57 So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?” 58 Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”

Dont you think there would be a better way of saying what you allege than this? To me, it seems he was telling them that he existed BEFORE Abraham did.

As well, you do believe God gave Moses and then Israel the commandments they received right? If so, then why would He do so then send someone else that would abolish and override those commandments? But not make that known in the original law so that they wouldnt REJECT said "someone"?

Jesus did not say that but that doesn't change the fact Enoch, Elijah and possibly Moses were taken to Heaven without dying. It was common knowledge back then they didn't die and they understood the context in which he was referring to.

Did Jesus not say He came not to break the law but fulfill it?

I'm sure there could have been a better way of saying it but He was speaking to the Pharisees and they knew the law better than the back of their hands. When he said I Am they knew exactly to what he was referring to.
The only way to claim to be older than Abraham was to claim to be God.

John 8:53-59 KJV
Art thou greater than our father Abraham, which is dead? and the prophets are dead: whom makest thou thyself? [54] Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God: [55] Yet ye have not known him; but I know him: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: but I know him, and keep his saying. [56] Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it , and was glad. [57] Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. [59] Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

Jesus was sentenced to death by the Jews. Through His death we can get salvation through Him. We don't have to do sacrifices anymore and even better the door was opened for gentiles to attain salvation also. I remember a story saying the Jews thought he was going to come on a horse and free them from the Romans and rule over them. Jesus offered spiritual salvation not the physical they wanted.

 

[ill]

Christians like Thsnnor were put on this Earth to troll the true believers

Its a shame life ends when you die cuz I would love to be there to laugh at you when you realize there really isn't a heaven or hell.

 

[Thsnnor]

Christians like Thsnnor were put on this Earth to troll the true believers

Its a shame life ends when you die cuz I would love to be there to laugh at you when you realize there really isn't a heaven or hell.

The best part of it all is free will. No one has to believe a word I say. All I'm saying is take a look at the evidence for themselves.

People say the Bible is fiction. We have the bones of the man who sentenced Jesus to death, we have bones of the apostles.

I think it's good people have questions as some will know a Christian from a Lutheran, pentecostal, jehovas witness, catholic and so on.

 

[ltheghost]

I guess this could be a Christian-focused questions but....What if...all religions were true? Would that affect the Christian viewpoint?

 

[Thsnnor]

I guess this could be a Christian-focused questions but....What if...all religions were true? Would that affect the Christian viewpoint?

Most religions are exclusive and they can't all be true. Hindus believe they continually pay until they reach nirvana, Islam has allah and no one else, Judaism has God and no one else, Christianity has the Trinity, Roman catholic has the pope the Virgin Mary and god plus various saints.

The Christian viewpoint is not changed due to the others. I've always recommended people to take a look at the evidence for themselves if interested and see for themselves.

 

[Dirty_Jerz]

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[ltheghost]

Most religions are exclusive and they can't all be true. Hindus believe they continually pay until they reach nirvana, Islam has allah and no one else, Judaism has God and no one else, Christianity has the Trinity, Roman catholic has the pope the Virgin Mary and god plus various saints.

The Christian viewpoint is not changed due to the others. I've always recommended people to take a look at the evidence for themselves if interested and see for themselves.

Interesting. So what about the contradictions in the Bible? Or even the parts people don't follow anymore, like the eating of shell fish, or beating your wife. It is an ancient book should a person follow the literal interpretation of the book or the "spirit" of the book. Because coming back from the dead today isn't as surprising as it once was...ERs do it all the time.

 

[Thsnnor]

Interesting. So what about the contradictions in the Bible? Or even the parts people don't follow anymore, like the eating of shell fish, or beating your wife. It is an ancient book should a person follow the literal interpretation of the book or the "spirit" of the book. Because coming back from the dead today isn't as surprising as it once was...ERs do it all the time.

Usually people say there are contradictions in the Gospels. The four gospels were written to four different groups and are structured as such. Matthew was written to the Jews since they denied Him. If you read the first few verses that is why they focus on his lineage through his father's side to prove he was a descendent of David.

As a judge would you rather have 4 people with slight variations but the same story throughout or 4 people with the exact same story down to the breathing, pitch and arm waving?

As with anything in life people will throw out what they don't like. Yes people do it with the Bible also for various reasons.

One word can be used to sum up the Bible and that is Redemption. People tell stories and parables in the Bible and we should know which is which. It is when people twist it and try to force others to do whatever is when issues come up.

Even if people freely choose not to believe at least they will be able to look at someone and know they are falsely doing something while claiming to be a Christian.

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

1. Why don't you follow all the rules of the bible ? Why do you pick and choose the stuff you like?

don't hit me with the jesus making a new covenant bs. because quote..

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Also the 10 commandments are in the old testament.


2. Why does the bible say, "thou shall not suffer a witch to live." that would imply that the people that wrote the bible thought witches were real.

3. So you acknowledge that men wrote the bible, but they were "inspired" by god? Do you know how ridiculous of a statement this is? Anyone can write text and say they were inspired by a god, but obviously doesnt make it true.

4. Why would a all powerful deity use men to write down his message. Wouldnt' a all powerful deity have a better way of preserving his word?

I got plenty more @Thsnnor

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

would it not be fair to assume that the most important aspect of the abrahamic faiths is an unnatural fear of not being a christian jew or muslim? thats so ridiculous.. Jesus was a man.. by the sound of it a good man.. but 2000 years later people are clinging to stories written over 1500 years which have little or no validity and wave them about out of an unhealthy fear of christian or whichever god..


your description of allah and god being different is laughable tbh.. the only differences are language and the fact that people who worship god have steadily shat on those who worship allah since the crusades.. so i guess jesus was a fan of crusades and the slave trade? since it brought him to so many new people? do you see how your commitment to everything christian seems ridiculous to people with a soul that dont worship white men?

 

[Thsnnor]

1. Why don't you follow all the rules of the bible ? Why do you pick and choose the stuff you like?

don't hit me with the jesus making a new covenant bs. because quote..

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

Also the 10 commandments are in the old testament.


2. Why does the bible say, "thou shall not suffer a witch to live." that would imply that the people that wrote the bible thought witches were real.

3. So you acknowledge that men wrote the bible, but they were "inspired" by god? Do you know how ridiculous of a statement this is? Anyone can write text and say they were inspired by a god, but obviously doesnt make it true.

4. Why would a all powerful deity use men to write down his message. Wouldnt' a all powerful deity have a better way of preserving his word?

I got plenty more @Thsnnor

You have more GOOD! That's the whole point of this thread.

1. You talk about new covenant but, didn't Jesus say he was making a new covenant during the Lord's supper? I'm sure he did.

2. I follow what Jesus said. Moses had over 600 laws in the O.T. Jesus was asked which of them was the greatest. Jesus replied Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, soul, and mind and unto the first love thy neighbour as thyself.

Jesus didn't say observe the Sabbath, do not murder, honor thy mother and father, have no other gods before me or any other of them. Jesus simplified it. If you love God and your neighbor you will do what Jesus said was the greatest of all the laws.

3. What was the context? Look at the few verses before and after to get a bigger picture. I'll look it up but I'm trying this year to give multiple verses when explaining something since too many others can prove almost anything by doing it one verse at a time.

4. How would there be a better way of preserving his word? The KJV was based on the Textus Receptus which can be treated to the early church (pre Roman catholic). The Bible spread so wide and far it could not be corrupted since there were so many copies. The KJV has brought more people to salvation then all the other bibles combined. How is there a better way then that? The Bible is the best selling book of all time.