SHAQ CALLS TIM DUNCAN A SYSTEM PLAYER.. CLAIMS CHRIS WEBBER WAS BETTER.

[murksiderock]

Five years ago if yall remember in real time, LaMarcus Aldridge was going into Year 10, fresh off his 3rd All-NBA nod and was considered one of the ten best players in The League, certainly considered an elite big. And you gotta remember the moment, that turned out to be Duncan's final season but remember how amped basketball media was that a fresh in-his-prime Aldridge would get to learn from The Big System (oops I mean Fundamental)?

The thought was that if LMA was that good dragging bums in Portland, he and Kawhi would be the new 1-2 in SA like Duncan/Parker and we were getting ready to see a new level of Aldridge for being directly under Timmy...

5 years later, the nikka yall should be comparing Webber to is Aldridge, not Duncan. Tons of talent but ultimately unrealized potential...

I was a huge Webber fan as a kid. He had a good career, but the idea he better than Timmy is bullshyt. Webber was on the decline from Year 11 on, so he couldn't sustain greatness for longer than a decade, loses to Timmy there. Also, Webber was not as reliable or nasty as Timmy in the playoffs, everybody knew this in real time...

C-Webb was only an elite player in Sacramento. Before Sac he was really good and exciting to watch but mostly a Top 15-20 type, and after Sac he was pretty much bum status. This is another cat Coli Basketball overrated here, based on a brilliant 5-year stretch in Sac...

Its insulting to compare Timmy to him. But you can compare Webb and Aldridge...

Shaq is wrong on this, once again becoming the 564337th wrong player opinion---->these guys played but they don't have infallible or unquestionable basketball minds...

And while I don't think anyone would argue that Peak Shaq wasn't better than Peak Timmy, you can make a serious argument that Tim overall was the better player, particularly given the fact Tim is an All-Time defender and had a more diverse offensive bag than Shaq...

The Big System truly benefited from the system but there's more than enough reason to believe he was the system...

 

[Sccit]

Duncan was still nice

Last chip he averaged 15/10/3 in 29 minutes and was an elite defender. How the fukk is that a role player. Gave Bosh the work both years he faced him.

HE WAS NICE BUT NOT GREAT AT THAT POINT ....... HE WASNT WINNING WIT 15-10 WITOUT BEIN CARRIED, CMON NOW

 

[FTBS]

Shaq barely knows players names and constantly says dumb shyt on TNT and regurgitates dated ass talking points

Being great at the game don’t mean you know shyt

No...he knows. And he's actually rather bright. He just gets off on the attention. He's the guy in school that is smart as hell, a star athlete, comes from a good family and feels the need to dumb himself down to try to fit in.

 

[ISO]

HE WAS NICE BUT NOT GREAT AT THAT POINT ....... HE WASNT WINNING WIT 15-10 WITOUT BEIN CARRIED, CMON NOW

He wasn’t carried. 15/10/3 with elite defense in only 29 minutes? That ain’t no damn role player.

And the Spurs played team basketball. That was one of the G.O.A.T. ball movement squads nobody had to put up super gaudy numbers. Duncan could have still been putting up 20/10 but they ain’t need that. Kawhi didn’t carry the Spurs to a chip everyone ate in the ‘14 Finals. Danny Green, Gary Neal, Patty Mills was wilding from 3.

 

[Sccit]

Five years ago if yall remember in real time, LaMarcus Aldridge was going into Year 10, fresh off his 3rd All-NBA nod and was considered one of the ten best players in The League, certainly considered an elite big. And you gotta remember the moment, that turned out to be Duncan's final season but remember how amped basketball media was that a fresh in-his-prime Aldridge would get to learn from The Big System (oops I mean Fundamental)?

The thought was that if LMA was that good dragging bums in Portland, he and Kawhi would be the new 1-2 in SA like Duncan/Parker and we were getting ready to see a new level of Aldridge for being directly under Timmy...

5 years later, the nikka yall should be comparing Webber to is Aldridge, not Duncan. Tons of talent but ultimately unrealized potential...

I was a huge Webber fan as a kid. He had a good career, but the idea he better than Timmy is bullshyt. Webber was on the decline from Year 11 on, so he couldn't sustain greatness for longer than a decade, loses to Timmy there. Also, Webber was not as reliable or nasty as Timmy in the playoffs, everybody knew this in real time...

C-Webb was only an elite player in Sacramento. Before Sac he was really good and exciting to watch but mostly a Top 15-20 type, and after Sac he was pretty much bum status. This is another cat Coli Basketball overrated here, based on a brilliant 5-year stretch in Sac...

Its insulting to compare Timmy to him. But you can compare Webb and Aldridge...

Shaq is wrong on this, once again becoming the 564337th wrong player opinion---->these guys played but they don't have infallible or unquestionable basketball minds...

And while I don't think anyone would argue that Peak Shaq wasn't better than Peak Timmy, you can make a serious argument that Tim overall was the better player, particularly given the fact Tim is an All-Time defender and had a more diverse offensive bag than Shaq...

The Big System truly benefited from the system but there's more than enough reason to believe he was the system...

U DO REALIZE THEY WENT TO THE WCF WIT ALDRIDGE IN 16, RIGHT????

PERHAPS WOULDA WON IT ALL IF NOT FOR A ZAZA UNDERCUT

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

Anyone putting webber over Duncan...yeah I'm just gonna leave it at that

 

[Sccit]

He wasn’t carried. 15/10/3 with elite defense in only 29 minutes? That ain’t no damn role player.

And the Spurs played team basketball. That was one of the G.O.A.T. ball movement squads nobody had to put up super gaudy numbers. Duncan could have still been putting up 20/10 but they ain’t need that. Kawhi didn’t carry the Spurs to a chip everyone ate in the ‘14 Finals. Danny Green, Gary Neal, Patty Mills was wilding from 3.

BRUH ANY SOLID BIG WAS WINNIN A TITLE WIT THE SPURS THAT YEAR.... YES, EVEN ALDRIDGE

 

[A Tribe Called Quest ™]

This nikka put Yao on the bench over Dwight, Shaq really doesn't know shyt. Even the biggest Dwight haters don't think Yao is better

 

[ISO]

BRUH ANY SOLID BIG WAS WINNIN A TITLE WIT THE SPURS THAT YEAR.... YES, EVEN ALDRIDGE

U underrate Duncan’s defense he was elite until his retirement not any big could anchor them like that c’mon

And Duncan was still a bucket in the low post and skilled passer

 

[Professor Emeritus]

nah kg was my man but he wasn’t as good as Duncan
They definitely wouldn’t win in 99
I can see him leading them in 03 in similar fashion
05 and 07 I can see kg getting it done
Not a chance for 14 kg was done by then meanwhile Duncan was still a top 3 big

KG isn't as good as TD but at least it's a more reasonable conversation that freaking Webber.

Duncan was still nice

Last chip he averaged 15/10/3 in 29 minutes and was an elite defender. How the fukk is that a role player. Gave Bosh the work both years he faced him.

I can't see who you're talking to but I'd bet anything it's someone who calls Bosh a "HOF player" or "top 5 big" during those years and yet is daring to say that Timmy was a "role player" when Duncan killed him both Finals.

If Ray doesn't make that shot, Duncan would have been Finals MVP in 2013. And he had as good an argument in 2014 as Parker and Kawhi did, they were all three essential.

 

[thenatural]

Ehhh, Shaq shytting on Dwight again is more egregious than what he said about Tim. It was a fun game they had him play. I think Duncan was a generational talent but he did walk into a great situation in SA for the first few years of his career. I don't think C-Webb playing in San Antonio is going to save his knees from failing him.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Ehhh, Shaq shytting on Dwight again is more egregious than what he said about Tim. It was a fun game they had him play. I think Duncan was a generational talent but he did walk into a great situation in SA for the first few years of his career. I don't think C-Webb playing in San Antonio is going to save his knees from failing him.

How is it a "great situation in SA" when his #2 option for most of those years were guys like Sean Elliot, Antonio Daniels, or a rookie TP?

Shaq went to an LA team loaded with all-stars, had Phil come on board, and had Kobe become an MVP candidate. That was a MUCH better situation than Duncan's. Heck, even Shaq's situation in Orlando with Penny, Horace Grant, and a team full of elite shooters was better than what Duncan had at the same age.

 

[Sadbrownsfan]

Still waiting to hear about this magical system outside of having a competent organization and good coaching.

 

[murksiderock]

DUNCAN WASNT EVEN AN ALL-STAR BY 2014

Come on bruh, that was Year 17, how many guys are All-Stars at that age lol...

 

[ISO]

KG isn't as good as TD but at least it's a more reasonable conversation that freaking Webber.




I can't see who you're talking to but I'd bet anything it's someone who calls Bosh a "HOF player" or "top 5 big" during those years and yet is daring to say that Timmy was a "role player" when Duncan killed him both Finals.

If Ray doesn't make that shot, Duncan would have been Finals MVP in 2013. And he had as good an argument in 2014 as Parker and Kawhi did, they were all three essential.

Its Sccit the LWO/Kobe stans bias towards certain players (LeBron, Dwight, Nash, Duncan) always shows

15/10/3 with elite defense playing 29 minutes a game in a team friendly ball movement offense is role player status now