Shaq doubles down on winning without Kobe:” I coulda won 3 in a row with Vince “.

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This isnt down playing kobe. This is bigging up himself and other players who were well regarded in their era
 

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Oh my god he has Fox Fish and Horry??:damn::damn::damn::damn:
:gucci::dead: Horry arguably hit the biggest shot in franchise history you stupid muthafukka. D Fish was constantly bailing you out. All 3 of their shooting dominated the 2001playoffs.


Gotdamn you MAGAts are some basketball simpletons.
 

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Kobe wasn’t the main ball handler nor goto.

McGrady had the ball in his hands much more. Similar assist numbers to a younger Kobe but Kobe put up consistent assist numbers on a worse team while scoring more points later in his career.

Kobe was just a higher BBIQ player than McGrady overall.

Heliocentric Kobe > Heliocentric McGrady. However, there’s no guarantee a toned down McGrady in that offense gets a three peat.
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30% usage, 4.4 assists

36% usage 3.7 assists

:dead: Thanks for the laugh, first and last time I’ll ever hear Kobe referred to as maestro passing the ball :laff:
 

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If Dirk and Shaq switched teams in 06, do the Mavs win instead of the Heat? :mjgrin:
 

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I just asked a simple question. I am in no way saying TMac and Vince were Kobe’s equals. I’m just saying let’s not act as if they ever played on some championship rosters either. Kobe went to three straight Finals, but that wasn’t some bum squad. When Kobe did have a weaker roster similar to TMac, they lost in the first round (I’m not even counting the season they missed the playoffs when Kobe was hurt a lot that year). What teams have prime TMac and Vince played for that had the overall talent as those Lakers teams that went to the Finals?
Again a 24 year old TMac lead a team to a 21-61 record. VC played with JKidd and Richard Jefferson got swept his first season in NJ and couldnt make it past the 2nd round the other 2. It's not saying they're not great but when did they show they were great playoff performers? James Harden did way more than they ever did regular season or playoffs yet he's still known as a choker
 

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nikka YOU GIVE KOBE YAO MING
OR PUT HIM ON THOSE NETS/MAGIC
FINALS TEAMS AND THEY WINNING
THE CHIP.

MAC/VINCE DIDNT
EVEN MAKE THE FINALS
WITH THOSE TEAMS.

THERES NO COMPARISON
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Naw, they might get further than what TMac and Vince did, but they’re not winning the chip just by replacing them with Kobe.

A lineup with Darrell Armstrong, Kobe, Mike Miller, Pat Garrity and Shawn Kemp winning the chip? :gucci:
 

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30% usage, 4.4 assists

36% usage 3.7 assists

:dead: Thanks for the laugh, first and last time I’ll ever hear Kobe referred to as maestro passing the ball :laff:
It’s clear you don’t like Kobe but downplaying him this bad is crazy.

Dude had an advanced BBIQ. Players don’t get back-to-back rings as an older, slower combo guard first option unless they got a little something extra.

McGrady and Vince simply didn’t have that. Once their athleticism faded, that was it. Kobe made adjustments nearly every year.
 
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Again a 24 year old TMac lead a team to a 21-61 record. VC played with JKidd and Richard Jefferson got swept his first season in NJ and couldnt make it past the 2nd round the other 2. It's not saying they're not great but when did they show they were great playoff performers? James Harden did way more than they ever did regular season or playoffs yet he's still known as a choker

Exactly :laff:
 

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Naw, they might get further than what TMac and Vince did, but they’re not winning the chip just by replacing them with Kobe.

A lineup with Darrell Armstrong, Kobe, Mike Miller, Pat Garrity and Shawn Kemp winning the chip? :gucci:

nikka I WAS SPEAKING
ON THE ORLANDO MAGIC
FINALS TEAM VINCE JOINED
THE NETS FINALS TEAM VINCE JOINED
AND THE HOUSTON TEAM TMAC JOINED
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Again a 24 year old TMac lead a team to a 21-61 record. VC played with JKidd and Richard Jefferson got swept his first season in NJ and couldnt make it past the 2nd round the other 2. It's not saying they're not great but when did they show they were great playoff performers? James Harden did way more than they ever did regular season or playoffs yet he's still known as a choker
Look at the roster TMac had that year (plus he missed 15 games). Also, a champion in DWade “led” Miami to a 15 win season. Doesn’t mean shyt.
 
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