Shaq: I Agree With What T-Mac Said. Probably Get A Lot Of Flak, But I Always Said Myself, I , I Think I Could've Got 3 In A Row With T-Mac.

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Nobody cares about coulda woulda shouldas. We care about what happened. Kobe won 5, TMac couldnt even get out the first round and when one of his teams finally did, it was with him hurt. He watched Ron Artest lead his team better and further than he did
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Now. Address Kobe
Create the thread and we can do that. Anything else is you deflecting from the topic because you can't actually debate the topic.
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And you bringing defensive rating shows you're just a stat watcher.

Marcus Smart- 107.9
Gary Payton- 105.6
Jrue Holiday- 109
Andre Iguoudala- 105
Manu Ginobili- 100

So what exactly does defensive rating tell you? You couldnt even explain how to come up with the rating yourself without googling yet you think simply posting a stat tells the full and complete story
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"James Harden averaged more pts, rebs, and assists than Dwyane Wade so that means he's better" ass arguments from casuals :scust:
 

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So he made the Conference Finals or Finals 3/5 seasons? Is that supposed to be a knock on him lol?
All this means is that Kobe was the sidekick he needed to help put him over the top like a Pippen/Kyrie.:russ:
That c00ns seasons were regularly ending with sweeps before Kobe became what he was.

They were more of a 1A/1B instead of reducing Kobe to some sidekick and thinking he'd have the same results with some like TMac is being delusional.
 

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Nobody cares about coulda woulda shouldas. We care about what happened. Kobe won 5,

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No way could Tmac have averaged 15 points

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No way could Tmac have averaged 25 on 41% FG

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No way could TMac average 22 points on 38%

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TMac couldnt even get out the first round and when one of his teams finally did, it was with him hurt. He watched Ron Artest lead his team better and further than he did
Kobe before he cried in the parking lot for a trade for a multi time allstar in the prime of his career couldn’t get out of the 1st round either.

We aren’t counting him being carried by the most dominant player in NBA history.


Let’s not even go into corrupt officiating gifting him 2-3 titles










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Create the thread and we can do that. Anything else is you deflecting from the topic because you can't actually debate the topic.
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This is directly addressing you claiming Kobe had heart and never gave up doofus. We have documented evidence of him giving up dumbass :mjlol:

So what exactly does defensive rating tell you? You couldnt even explain how to come up with the rating yourself without googling yet you think simply posting a stat tells the full and complete story
:mjlol:
Defensive rating in the NBA is a stat that estimates the points allowed by a player per 100 possessions while they are on the court.


Dumbass
 

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I fully expect this same convo to reappear regarding Dame/Steph in 8 years. It’s been silenced for now tho but it’s clear certain player & media members will always lurk to make another persons career seem better than what it was all while tearing down another
Dame and Harden
 

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No way could Tmac have
Winners go by what they did while losers dwell on what they shoulda woulda coulda did :coffee:

2001 playoffs
Shaq- 30.4 ppg 15.4 reb 3.2 ast
Kobe- 29.4 ppg 7.3 reb 6.1 ast

2002 playoffs
Shaq- 28.5 ppg 12.6 reb 2.8 ast
Kobe- 26.6 ppg 5.8 reb 3.4 ast

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Nobody devalues Magic's rings when he played with Kareem and number 1 picks in Michael Thompson and James Worthy and Hall of famer Ben Mcadoo. Nobody devalues Larry Bird's rings playing with 3 or 4 other Hall of famers. I wonder why?

Thankfully the people have an outlet (YouTube) to disprove fake narratives from the media and casuals (like yourself) who think they understand the nuances of a game because the can read numbers on a stat sheet.
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Kobe before he cried in the parking lot for a trade for a multi time allstar in the prime of his career couldn’t get out of the 1st round either.
Still deflecting from the topic? :mjlol:

Kobe was complaining about the Lakers turning down a trade for Jason Kidd. Yet he still came into the following season without any trade being made and led them to a number 1 seed before getting Gasol in a trade later that year. Then after getting Gasol, reeled off 3 straight trips to the finals winning 2 of them.

Bad back Mac on the other hand got booted out the first round even with Yao Ming(who was better than Pau Gasol). Then the following year he sat back and watched Ron Artest lead his same team out the first round. Let that sink in. RON ARTESTt led TMacs team better and further than TMac ever did:



We have evidence of a player replace bad back Mac and going further, yet you think bad back Mac can replace a better player and achieve the same results? Oh but since you can read stat sheets and watch ball is life highlights, it makes you think you understand basketball :laff:
This is directly addressing you claiming Kobe had heart and never gave up doofus. We have documented evidence of him giving up dumbass :mjlol:
Nope. I posted about what Kobe said IN THE VIDEO in comparison to TMac making guarantees then blaming his teammates when he got outplayed by Baron Davis. Instead of addressing that(because you can't), you're arguing against what some person decided to title the video.
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Defensive rating in the NBA is a stat that estimates the points allowed by a player per 100 possessions while they are on the court.


Dumbass

I didn't need you to define it. I just said I know you cant without google and you can't. I also know you don't know how to calculate the rating without googling either.

You don't understand basketball. You just read stats from 2 different players and think because one is more or less than the other that it tells the whole story. But hey, don't deflect from the list again:

Marcus Smart- 107.9
Gary Payton- 105.6
Jrue Holiday- 109
Andre Iguoudala- 105
Manu Ginobili- 100

I didn't bring up this stat, YOU DID.. So what does it tell you about the stat when Manu Ginobili has a 100 defensive rating and Jrue Holiday has a 109?
 
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If you dont remember this you dont know hoops and should just quit discussing. Ruben Patterson?
You're an idiot. Ruben Patterson didnt actually shut down kobe, HE just thought he was capable.
This dumb ass cultist trying to explain his stupidity to me is hilarious :russ: Brain rotting idiots really injected Ruben Patterson into the conversation to boost up Kobe’s resume LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
 

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That c00ns seasons were regularly ending with sweeps before Kobe became what he was.
Reminds me of how Kobes seasons regularly ended with him quitting on his team, missing the playoffs or being bounced out the first round before Pau came and saved his legacy beyond being known as another nikkas sidekick :russ:
 

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If you didnt play or watch basketball just say that you fakkit . Go look up him locking iverson down
Idiotic ass cultist bragging about AI feeding the lakers 36 points a game in their finals series :russ::russ: :russ: :russ: :russ: :russ: :russ: :russ::russ: :russ: talking about “locked down” LMAAO … this might be worse than calling Rebun fukking Patterson the “Kobe Stopper” …. stick to bragging about your god clashing with the Anthony Peelers of the world goofy
 

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What happened was Kobe made all defense 12 times while winning 5 rings and you have stat box watchers thinking that a 0 time All defensive team player who was admittedly lazy when it came to preparation could be swapped in and achieve the same results because he averaged 32 ppg and had nice ball is life highlights
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Even with Yao, he couldnt get out the first round yet they get Ron Artest, Bad back Mac gets hurt (what else was new) and Artest and Yao somehow go to the second round team with the exact same team they had as when Mac was leading them. On the court he was a loser. Perfect comparison:


This is the perfect comparison. A rich man's Jerry Stackhouse.
The games T-Mac had with the Magic are on YouTube. Full games. Some of ya'll in here showing your whole ass
 
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