Shaq: I Agree With What T-Mac Said. Probably Get A Lot Of Flak, But I Always Said Myself, I , I Think I Could've Got 3 In A Row With T-Mac.

[Dwight Howard]

The spurs would've swept Philly. This shows you dont know shyt and weren't there. Kobe averaged 33/7/7 against a great perimeter defense. There is no other way to spin it. You're clearly just looking at box scores trying to connect the dots, it ain't working.

 

[T-K-G]

Constantly bringing up a dead man like this is corny, letting players run rampant in the media was a bad idea in hindsight wouldn't care if bean was alive to defend himself m, but all these dudes look weak as hell doing all this extra talking about the dead




I will not miss Shaq at all when he is gone, the more he talks the lesser I think of him as a human being

 

[Remote]

You can type all this bullshyt . Facts are Kobe was the better player in the REAL finals against the spurs the spurs in 2001 and outplayed Shaq several series leading up to the finals. You clearly didnt watch shyt in real time

So he’s gonna post all those arguments and numbers from @Mister Terrific and you’re not gonna address any of them.

If the facts are on your side you should be able to easily counter his points systematically.

It says a lot that you’re just gonna sit there and insist you’re right “because I said so”

 

[Dwight Howard]

So he’s gonna post all those arguments and numbers from @Mister Terrific and you’re not gonna address any of them.

If the facts are on your side you should be able to easily counter his points systematically.

It says a lot that you’re just gonna sit there and insist you’re right “because I said so”

He posting finals numbers. Im talking about the REAL finals. There were at least 3-4 teams better than any team in the east during this period and Kobe dominated all of them, you should know

 

[Yayo Toure]

T-Mac and Shaq both failed spectacularly on their own. I'm sure they'd have combined to fail in an even more spectacular fashion. shyt they'd probably lose in the first round.

 

[Pressure]

How does one saying Phil Jackson couldve won with T Mac & Shaq be an insult to Kobe?

Bruhs acting like TMac was a bum and wasn’t on the same level as Kobe during the first run

 

[Ozymandeas]

Pretend like "Kobe stopper" never existed brehs try hard nerd shyt.

LeBron Stans lie about everything.

But I'm not surprised. In 2009, 2010, 2011, we shytted on LeBron HEAVILY back on SOHH, All Hip Hop Called that dweeb every name in the book, and Bron Stans couldn't say nuffin because he kept losing and Kobe kept getting to the Finals.

Now it's 15 years later, and their revenge is to pretend that Kobe was never on Top, that those beef threads never happened, and that Kobe was never in the GOAT convos. If they could, Bron Stans would wipe the internet clean

For example, they'll tell you with a straight face that LeBron passed Kobe for good in 2013 or 2016 but, if Kobe was never in the GOAT convos, why did LeBron have to pass him

 

[Ozymandeas]

"In the 2004 Finals, we exploited Kobe’s ego. We knew there was no way we could stop Shaq directly. But what would happen is that Mr. Bryant would start getting a bit discouraged from not getting the ball, and then in the second half… that’s when he’d start forcing it. He’d begin chasing and messing up the offense."
– Chauncey Billups.
Kobe took 29 more shots than Shaq in that Finals series, even though Shaq averaged 27 points per game on 62% shooting, while Kobe shot just 38% from the field during the series.

See T-Mac wouldn't have had that ego in 04

Honestly, the world was tired of Shaq and Kobe dominating, and whenever someone can't beat somebody in a fight, they start throwing low blows.

The "Kobe got carried" stuff was their way of doing that.

T-Mac might have won a ring with Shaq but, he wasn't going to be as effective (meaning, no three-peat). Kobe had to drill San Antonio, Sacramento, and Portland multiple years in a row, and I don't have faith in T-Mac to do that year in and year out. He might've done it once but, he's not doing it 3 times.

 

[Everythingg]

Notice you left out

Okay fine, I'll do their playoff averages from 2000 to 2004

Kobe: 27.6 ppg 5.7 rebs 5.3 asts
Shaq: 26.4 ppg 13.8 rebs 3. asts



All the what ifs about Tmac replacing Kobe when we actually saw Ron Artest replace Tmac and lead the same team Tmac had the season before further.

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I did define it so what are you crying about? Please articulate why you think defensive rating is inaccurate instead of dropping p*ssy juice everywhere.

Yea I said you couldnt define it without using google and Im right. Are you going to lie and say you know how to calculate the rating without using google. In fact, fukk all that . Here's the list again:

Marcus Smart- 107.9
Gary Payton- 105.6
Jrue Holiday- 109
Andre Iguoudala- 105
Manu Ginobili- 100

You used defensive rating to make a point but when I ask you about Manu Ginobili having a defensive rating of 100 and Jrue Holiday 109 you don't wanna answer? I know why

He’s right. Kobe had more all defensive first teams than Ron Artest and Tony Allen. Ridiculous.

And Tim Duncan has more than everyone too. Oh and Gorbert has more selections than Ben Wallace and Dwight Howard. Then there is Dwyane Wade who has more than Avery Bradley. Shaq is tied with Tyson Chandler. Lebron has the same amount as Tony Allen. Lmk, I can keep going

 

[10bandz]

At that time, T-Mac and Kobe were equals on the court. Let's stop acting like if TMac and Kobe swapped teams in the early 00s, the Lakers wouldn't have 3peated. Probably would've beat the Pistons, too.

LOL so now nikkas are gonna claim Tmac and Shaq would’ve been MORE successful than Kobe and Shaq

And “real Laker fan” @NYC Rebel is co-signing this shyt

Y’all nikkas are some real frauds

 

[10bandz]

A lot of disgraceful shyt going on in this thread… over some fukking TMac.

Dudes are really trying to systemically discredit Kobe’s entire career

 

[NYC Rebel]

LOL so now nikkas are gonna claim Tmac and Shaq would’ve been MORE successful than Kobe and Shaq

And “real Laker fan” @NYC Rebel is co-signing this shyt

Y’all nikkas are some real frauds

I didn’t say more. i said Phil Jackson would have won a ship with T Mac and Shaq. How is that a negative belief on the Lakers?

 

[10bandz]

No he doesn’t but you’ve never been a Kobe guy so whatever. Always had some sideways stuff to say about “Kobe stans” while being a Lakers fan but never had that energy towards LeBron stans.

But the more alarming thing is as a former athlete yourself, you’re over here committing a cardinal sin of sports - giving someone hypothetical accolades. You don’t get to say what so and so would’ve done in this situation because they weren’t in that situation and we don’t have evidence of it. That’s all speculative and undermines someone who actually accomplished something.

I’m glad u called this out

@NYC Rebel is a fukking fraud, I been calling it out for years

Dude really tries to be the authority on Laker fans too

 

[10bandz]

I didn’t say more. i said Phil Jackson would have won a ship with T Mac and Shaq. How is that a negative belief on the Lakers?

@Big Boss quoted dudes post that said Tmac would 3 peat AND win in 04 and responded with “facts” and you dapped it

You’re not slick you old ass man. fukking fraud.

 

[NYC Rebel]

@NYC Rebel is a fukking fraud, I been calling it out for years

Dude really tries to be the authority on Laker fans too

You found a friend. Nothing I said involved Kobe.

My belief is that the LAKERS with Phil, Shaq, & T Mac wouldve won a ship.

Why is that a problem?