She Should Know You Want the Cheeks...

[Tetris v2.0]

Late to the thread, but I agree with the premise. It's important to be clear with your wants and needs, while still leaving a bit of room for mystery and excitement

I did most of my dirt in college and workplaces (eventually met my wife there so it worked out), so I couldn't exactly follow that advice as much. You need a bit of "plausible deniability" in these settings lol

Likely missed a lot of opportunities by not being as bold and direct, but it worked out for me

 

[Silver Surfer]

The vibe is all you need.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Side note:

When it comes to managing women, how you start, the relationship is very important.

When you establish yourself as an authority early, usually two things happen.

1. She'll resist and leave quickly or
2. They'll accept it, will require very little reinforcement and, usually, she'll uphold your authority to others.

So whenever I see relationships where the woman uses disrespectful language towards the man and/or makes snide or disrespectful comments in the presence of others I know that man never established himself as a authority.

I don't date women, but I understand how they operate.

 

[skylove4]

Let me just drop this here:





What’s understood don’t gotta be said! If you pick up your date and y’all in the car there’s an extremely high chance she gon end up goin. You think you need to say ‘hey, you know I want you to gimme that sloppy toppy right?’

Never, ever ever ever ever take dating advice from women. Lmao Foh

I agree men who listen to women about this stuff are fools they are pontificating liars. They will give you advice about whining and dining while they let a dude they are attracted to fukk her raw she just meet.

 

[MicIsGod]

The thread is about coming into situations clean and honest and safe.

I've said it so many times in this thread but ya'll brains really can't function past the road to easy sexual access being your only priority.

You guys just really be having conversations with yourselves. You don't even bother to engage the topic.

I have read for years ya'll complain about women won't "let us lead."

But I reality, many of you guys lack the most basic principles to lead. A real conversation being beyond ya'll is wild to me.

If the following statements are too much for you the intention of this conversation didn't land:

“I like you, I’m attracted to you, and I’m not in a place for commitment but I’d enjoy something physical if that feels good to you too.”

“I’m drawn to you sexually, and I’m curious about what could build between us if we take it one step at a time.”

I have no interest in debating about how easy it is to fukk people without having a adult conversation. We know that's how most of you live.

But it's also childish and why men (general speaking) tend to struggle with relationships beyond fukking and get jammed up in undesirable situations.

If your only concern is how easily you can get sex this conversation was never for you.

Ignoring you being a bytch for some reason, I acknowledged this is a useful way to deal with some women. But a large percentage of women simply do not respond well to this, even if a sexual relationship is all they want. They enjoy the game and not playing it makes them feel played, ironically. You will leave a lot of coochie on the table being this direct. Some want to go on dates and fukk without you outright saying it. 2 things can be true.

 

[2 one 3]

Ignoring you being a bytch for some reason, I acknowledged this is a useful way to deal with some women. But a large percentage of women simply do not respond well to this, even if a sexual relationship is all they want. They enjoy the game and not playing it makes them feel played, ironically. You will leave a lot of coochie on the table being this direct. Some want to go on dates and fukk without you outright saying it. 2 things can be true.

So true.

A lot of women love the chase / feeling desired and want all that goofy shiiit too.

Along with getting their head out through a headboard.

 

[FTBS]

this is the differences in the genders you just don't understand and are trying to, but miss the mark. If it's a numbers game being upfront about just wanting sex from a woman willing to talk to you is not a good strategy. applied experience will bear that out for the majority of men. an average guy will experience outright rejection 9/10 times before realizing love bombing, saying he wants a relationship, being noncommital on what he truly wants for a couple weeks to months results in a 20-30% success rate as opposed to 0-10%

men are inherently hornier than woman are, and I don't think that's some unscientific or easily socially disproven statement.

the first realization you have to make is realizing how much effort on average a man has to put into having consistent sex outside of having a relationship. once you realize or comprehend that; you realize the depths of depravity men will go to; to get sex from any and every woman they are talking/interacting with at any given time

lying, faking, waiting, wearing her down, favors, tricking, decieving, etc, etc... to get p*ssy is not some abnormal thing to witness

as I have gotten older and interacted with more and more people I've realized just how many men are not getting action like that. I always thought lying on your dikk was a highschool to late teen mans game. then you get past that age and talk and mingle with men who are past the age of having the ego/shame of lying about that stuff and realize just how many men can't just "have their way" with a bunch of women. they gotta get it how they live

For starters women are definitely hornier. Its not a contest actually. They get it easier and thusly are more selective. And have social concerns holding them back. That said, if you cant control your urges, you are screwed. It can only end badly for you.

The numbers game is the problem. Most men just aint cut out for that and really shouldn't be on that. But listening to rappers and other cappin ass p*ssy hound ass nikkas got nikkas thinking thats the norm. Most guys aint getting it like that and its ok. There is way more to life and ironically you get more (relatively speaking) thrown at you when you arent thirsty.

If you resort to underhanded means of getting it then you cant complain when women do underhanded things. You wont miss out on any chick that actually wants you and is worth your time being direct.

 

[FTBS]

Ignoring you being a bytch for some reason, I acknowledged this is a useful way to deal with some women. But a large percentage of women simply do not respond well to this, even if a sexual relationship is all they want. They enjoy the game and not playing it makes them feel played, ironically. You will leave a lot of coochie on the table being this direct. Some want to go on dates and fukk without you outright saying it. 2 things can be true.

Is that coochie worth it? Is it in a man's best interest to play these games? At a certain point you gotta ask yourself what is more important...self respect and safety or the possibility of p*ssy (because a lot of nikkas still strike out with the games and indirect shyt).

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

Ignoring you being a bytch for some reason, I acknowledged this is a useful way to deal with some women. But a large percentage of women simply do not respond well to this, even if a sexual relationship is all they want. They enjoy the game and not playing it makes them feel played, ironically. You will leave a lot of coochie on the table being this direct. Some want to go on dates and fukk without you outright saying it. 2 things can be true.

Funny how you got the balls to call me a bytch but too much of a p*ssy control coward to actually have a conversation about sex.



You're a child. I hope all the stupid drama that comes from being a coward finds you and any woman dumb enough to fukk you or be associated with you. BAN

#blocked

 

[MicIsGod]

Is that coochie worth it? Is it in a man's best interest to play these games? At a certain point you gotta ask yourself what is more important...self respect and safety or the possibility of p*ssy (because a lot of nikkas still strike out with the games and indirect shyt).

Also a fair question. And at some point, I can see myself not caring to play that game. But for now, my best experiences with women sexually have come from the “game” I’m not talking about manipulation btw. Just regular dating. Being direct comes in more ways than saying “hey let’s have sex”

 

[MicIsGod]

Funny how you got the balls to call me a bytch but too much of a p*ssy control coward to actually have an conversation about sex.



You're a child. I hope all the stupid drama that comes from being a coward fined you and any woman dumb enough to fukk you or be associated with you. BAN

#blocked

To be so catty you sure are sensitive. Be blessed aunt pearl.

 

[™BlackPearl The Empress™]

For starters women are definitely hornier. Its not a contest actually. They get it easier and thusly are more selective. And have social concerns holding them back. That said, if you cant control your urges, you are screwed. It can only end badly for you.

The numbers game is the problem. Most men just aint cut out for that and really shouldn't be on that. But listening to rappers and other cappin ass p*ssy hound ass nikkas got nikkas thinking thats the norm. Most guys aint getting it like that and its ok. There is way more to life and ironically you get more (relatively speaking) thrown at you when you arent thirsty.

If you resort to underhanded means of getting it then you cant complain when women do underhanded things. You wont miss out on any chick that actually wants you and is worth your time being direct.

Perfectly stated.

Is that coochie worth it? Is it in a man's best interest to play these games? At a certain point you gotta ask yourself what is more important...self respect and safety or the possibility of p*ssy (because a lot of nikkas still strike out with the games and indirect shyt).

It's clear they already made the decision to forgo safety and reason for access no matter the consequences.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

The thread is about coming into situations clean and honest and safe.

I've said it so many times in this thread but ya'll brains really can't function past the road to easy sexual access being your only priority.

You guys just really be having conversations with yourselves. You don't even bother to engage the topic.

I have read for years ya'll complain about women won't "let us lead."

But I reality, many of you guys lack the most basic principles to lead. A real conversation being beyond ya'll is wild to me.

If the following statements are too much for you the intention of this conversation didn't land:

“I like you, I’m attracted to you, and I’m not in a place for commitment but I’d enjoy something physical if that feels good to you too.”

“I’m drawn to you sexually, and I’m curious about what could build between us if we take it one step at a time.”

I have no interest in debating about how easy it is to fukk people without having a adult conversation. We know that's how most of you live.

But it's also childish and why men (general speaking) tend to struggle with relationships beyond fukking and get jammed up in undesirable situations.

If your only concern is how easily you can get sex this conversation was never for you.

Cut it out... You made a HARD pivot

This is you:

It's almost 2026. Are we still not telling each other we want to have sex and leaving it up to a "vibe"?

That's a dangerous game gentlemen. I hope we're having real adult conversations by now.

You didn't make it about "being clear with your intentions for a purely sexual relationship." You stated that we should state "WE WANT TO HAVE SEX" and doubled down with "NOT leaving it up to a vibe."

Now you saying, "Oh I meant, just tell her your overall intentions to have sex AND not be in a relationship!"




Again... most nikkas gonna tell you they ain't looking for nothing serious on the first damn meeting. What we aren't going to do is say "We want to have sex" as you are quoted telling us to ask for

Men get jammed up because you will tell a woman every single thing in this post, she will agree, she will fukk you, and then she STILL will press YOU for more, as if you need to give her a weekly speech about how your mind has NOT changed.



Women aren't fukking babies.. How many times does a man need to say "I don't want anything more," before it becomes her own damn fault for playing games and trying to fukk us into a relationship?

 

[Depreciating Asset]

Yes and no. It should be that simple but sometimes it's not.

All men have had a woman come over and she said she's not planning on fukking before coming over and 30 mins later she is consensually choking on your dikk with tears of joy coming out her eyes.

Speak for yourself

 

[Conan]

Cut it out... You made a HARD pivot

Yep.

Look at the title of the thread. The other thread that inspired this. Nothing about relationships.

Not really much of a genuine conversation from her end to be honest. Like I said earlier, she is entitled to her view but she doesn't represent the whole of womandom and as plenty of brehs here have stayed, enough examples exist that disprove her argument