She Was Determined To Get Her Stuff

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There was plenty of time in the video where the black employee had the girl adequately restrained and instead of grabbing the purse and jacket (which was right behind the counter), the white employee just stood there.

You simply don’t understand the concepts of liability, safety, and de-escalation. You would be a danger to everyone around you in these types of situations. You lack basic HR principles and interpersonal skills needed to work in a retail environment.

You just said that police/security would be the intermediary for her belongings. By your own logic the employees correct course of action should have been to wait for security and not take it upon themselves to engage in a WWE match with the employee.

Had he severely injured the girl from that body slam that’s easily a multi-million dollar lawsuit over a jacket and purse.

She no longer had access to the back counter as well as other employees in the back

Stop caping
 
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seems like everybody should just drop it at this point because everybody is in the wrong.

idk where people are framing her as the aggressor when the first thing you see in the video is white dude shoved her at least 3 times before she raised a punch. pretty sure there is a workplace protocol that doesn't involve employees putting their hands on other people to prevent them from accessing areas so that seems like a lawsuit

then even after she gets her stuff and is trying to leave, they are both trying to prevent her from leaving. so the whole "prevent her from going back there" argument goes out the window at that point. she got her stuff and is leaving and now both dudes are holding her until she breaks free and leaves.
:yeshrug: it's all there on video. which is probably why no charges pressed.
 
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nikka, i wasnt fired, i was around when it happened and i happen to know the policies of the companies i work for.

People are telling you that you arent entitled to trespass on private property because you have items on that property. nikka law does not apply in this case. :mjlol:

Once you are fired all the company has to do is make your personal property available to you. They can allow you to pick it up yourself, they can pack it up for you, etc... They do not have to allow you to have the freedom to remain on the property and obtain your things yourself.
I don’t think you understand the concept of managing a escalating situation so let’s start from the beginning:

An employee is fired. They never left the premise and they simply want their belongings so that they can leave and go home. The employee is become more agitated and violent.

The correct course of action is to call police/security. Evaluate what the person wants. If it’s reasonable (like their own property), give it to them. Then, wait for police to arrive.

The incorrect course of action is to directly confront the employee and/or refuse reasonable request. You risk the former employee damaging company property and most importantly you risk harm to everyone around including employees and customers.

If she would have for instance injured a customer from throwing objects like chairs, the company would have been sued for failing to de-escalate the entire situation. Nowhere in this situation does trespassing have any relevance.
 

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You ain't getting to that back counter...now keep.pushing your way and get bodyslammed
Good managers de-escalate wisely. HR isnt gonna reprimand you for giving a bad worker her belongings to leave.

It ain't rocket science. Throw her stuff over the counter and be done with it.
They do not pay yall fast food workers enough to be detective, security and muay thai fighter lol.

Because by giving her stuff back, she has less of a case to defend herself in court for still trying to go back there
Also notice, as soon as she got her stuff back, she immediately left and the whole situation de-escalated.
 

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I would’ve broke shawty jaw if she hit me. :hubie:

I don’t deal with people putting their hands on me, especially since I’m not gonna touch you. Man or woman I would’ve tried to kill shawty. :hubie:
 
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I would’ve broke shawty jaw if she hit me. :hubie:

I don’t deal with people putting their hands on me, especially since I’m not gonna touch you. Man or woman I would’ve tried to kill shawty. :hubie:

then don't put your hands on people. as you said that YOU arent gonna touch people, but you see THEY had shoved her like 4 times first :hubie: a lot of yall are just seeing what you want to see, but it's all on video.
 

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then don't put your hands on people. as you said that YOU arent gonna touch people, but you see THEY had shoved her like 4 times first :hubie: a lot of yall are just seeing what you want to see, but it's all on video.
lol they had a right to stop her from going behind the counter. Outside if that idk. But it’s like you trying to barge in my home. I can physically stop you from doing that, because you would be the one violating
 
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lol they had a right to stop her from going behind the counter. Outside if that idk. But it’s like you trying to barge in my home. I can physically stop you from doing that, because you would be the one violating

oh so now you changing it to "don't touch me cuz im not gonna touch you" to b-b-b-ut :skip:

MFER YOU JUST SAID YOU NOT GONNA TOUCH HER FIRST :dead: PICK ONE.

and im pretty sure most workplaces instruct mfers not to physically restraint people over petty shyt like this, even if it's a security guard. most businesses wont even stop shoplifters, let alone a current employee who is trying to get their purse
 

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no she didn't immediately leave, cuz now they were trying to prevent her from leaving. she had to fight her way out lol. just being dikkheads

They block her from coming in for her stuff and THEN they hold her down for trying to leave with her stuff.

If I was senior manager, I would call em in the next day and yell at them to never fukking do that again.
Let her take her stuff and wait for the cops to come to take the report.

IDGAF about trespassing private company property (lol its just a fast food spot in an airport), corporate doesn't care about u.
They will throw your ass under the bus and blame you even if you were "right".
 

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lol they had a right to stop her from going behind the counter. Outside if that idk. But it’s like you trying to barge in my home. I can physically stop you from doing that, because you would be the one violating
You don’t realize that the laws are different for a business that services the public and a personal home. A business legally has to protect the safety of customers and employees. For example, if someone trespasses into your home you can start blasting away in self-defense but if someone trespasses into a McDonalds the cashier cannot just to start shooting indiscriminately in a restaurant full of people.

For these reasons the the manager will be fired. If she wanted to get behind the counter they should have called police and waited. The safety of the public comes before equipment of a business that is insured. Once it became evident that the employee was willing to become for violent and aggressive they should have stepped aside and/or given her the belongings.

Notice how he said “somebody’s on the phone with police right?” He didn’t even bother to call security/police which is why the situation escalated to the level that it did. The HR department will use this video as training for what not to do.
 

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You don’t realize that the laws are different for a business that services the public and a personal home. A business legally has to protect the safety of customers and employees. For example, if someone trespasses into your home you can start blasting away in self-defense but if someone trespasses into a McDonalds the cashier cannot just to start shooting indiscriminately in a restaurant full of people.

For these reasons the the manager will be fired. If she wanted to get behind the counter they should have called police and waited. The safety of the public comes before equipment of a business that is insured. Once it became evident that the employee was willing to become for violent and aggressive they should have stepped aside and/or given her the belongings.

Notice how he said “somebody’s on the phone with police right?” He didn’t even bother to call security/police which is why the situation escalated to the level that it did. The HR department will use this video as training for what not to do.


So how are you protecting the safety of the workers if you just let anyone come behind the counter?

Your saying they should just step aside let her come behind the counter and call police, how are you protecting the workers if you do that. It's all kinds of shyt back there and other employees

At the end of the day you don't know exactly what her intent was. Yes she says I want my shyt back okay but just cause she say that doesn't mean she aint trying to get back there and harm someone.

She already trying to fight everyone slapping dudes and putting hands on people
 

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Super confused. Why not give her stuff back to her?

If she stole, then I'm sure it's on tape anyway. No need to fight or manhandle her.

If that's the case, most managers would just say "This is your last day due to evidence of blah blah, please take your things and leave the premises, HR will be in contact"

Exactly. Anybody justifying that shyt due to alleged theft is a weirdo.

Plus I saw a different explanation. I read that she got fired for fighting another employee, Which would explain her already being fired up
 
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