Sheduer Sanders finally enters the game……. Immediately throws an interception
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Shedeur not getting starter reps behind Gabriel
Browns coach Kevin Stefanski said Wednesday that backup QB Shedeur Sanders is not receiving reps with the starting offense.www.espn.com
Stefanski said it himself Gabriel was getting first team reps even after camp when Flacco was still there. And he made the excuse that it’s because Joe is a veteran.
He was never gonna beat out Joe as the starter so even the training camp reps were BS
Sheduer even had to share scout team reps with Bailey Zappe
So what exactly is the conspiracy again here? That the Browns, who have been in need of a QB since dial up, are intentionally sabotaging who could be their next franchise leader on behalf of the league to teach Shedeur a lesson about being too confident? They're doing this rather than getting behind him full throttle and maximizing the team they have with a beast of a defense and a dope rookie RB, etc?
Or is it more likely he's going through some of the normal shyt mad other QBs have went through?
Bro was on troll bs making this thread but the replies in here have been hilarious as if it's the system/machine against Sanders...
@Nigerianwonder you can chime in too since I just saw your post. They're setting him up to fail when, if he's as good as you all think, they could have their next franchise QB for the next however many years??
So what exactly is the conspiracy again here? That the Browns, who have been in need of a QB since dial up, are intentionally sabotaging who could be their next franchise leader on behalf of the league to teach Shedeur a lesson about being too confident? They're doing this rather than getting behind him full throttle and maximizing the team they have with a beast of a defense and a dope rookie RB, etc?
Or is it more likely he's going through some of the normal shyt mad other QBs have went through?
Bro was on troll bs making this thread but the replies in here have been hilarious as if it's the system/machine against Sanders...
@Nigerianwonder you can chime in too since I just saw your post. They're setting him up to fail when, if he's as good as you all think, they could have their next franchise QB for the next however many years??
They been trying to frame this as some "they hold the proud black man down"
when our retard in chief was campaigning to get him signed himself
Beautiful. Stayed in the messy pocket and threw that ball over the LB in front of the DB
Thats a layered throw
Thats a layered throw
Meanwhile, 13th year, 100 million dollar man Kirk Cousins, entered yesterday's game, we went 6 for 14 for 48 yards, in a loss, after previously being the starter... The projection from a half of football, first-year, is insane and hilarious.
Ryan Clark always defends Shaduer and even he’s tired of yalls conspiracy theories
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
So what exactly is the conspiracy again here? That the Browns, who have been in need of a QB since dial up, are intentionally sabotaging who could be their next franchise leader on behalf of the league to teach Shedeur a lesson about being too confident? They're doing this rather than getting behind him full throttle and maximizing the team they have with a beast of a defense and a dope rookie RB, etc?
Or is it more likely he's going through some of the normal shyt mad other QBs have went through?
Bro was on troll bs making this thread but the replies in here have been hilarious as if it's the system/machine against Sanders...
@Nigerianwonder you can chime in too since I just saw your post. They're setting him up to fail when, if he's as good as you all think, they could have their next franchise QB for the next however many years??
It's not a conspiracy anymore. Its a proven fact they haven't been preparing Shaduer to play at all like we feared was happening. We know what it looks like when the Browns are invested in making sure their rookie QB is put in the best situation to succeed cause that's exactly what they did with Dillon. They had a game plan made just for Dillon and have been giving him 1st team reps since training camp. No matter how bad Dillon played they still gave him every opportunity as if he was a 1st rounder.
Nothing about what the browns are doing is normal. Teams that want to win don't do this. Picking 2 rookie QB's in the draft so close is not normal. Browns have gone through more QB's in the past 20 years than any other team and many of their QB's only found success after leaving the Browns. Even Flacco looked incredible this season right after the trade while looking like ass on the browns.
Name me one QB the browns or Stefanski have successfully developed in the past 20 years? Since you think this is a competent organization and want to drink their bath water.. I'll wait for your answer.
Ryan Clark always defends Shaduer and even he’s tired of yalls conspiracy theories
VegetasHairline
Veteran
Former 4th round pick here..
Former Journeyman backup here..
I think there is a massive misunderstanding about how an NFL practice is structured.
The only time mid round pick rookies and backups get meaningful reps is in training camp, and they are never with the ones unless you are competing or starting that next preseason game.
Regular season practices have 10-12 plays per period.. that’s team run, team pass, team blitz pickup, and some teams still do a 7v7 period…
But for the most part that’s are 30-40 live full speed reps of the actual gameplan practiced on Wed, Thursday and Friday in the NFL.. these all go to the starting QB.. he’s the one that has to be to get ready. And if healthy he gets to make that call.
These team periods alternate between O and D with backups and PS players and even some guys that will play significant roles on Sunday, serving as scout team “look” squads for those periods.
This is where we backups get our reps.
You have to try and translate what the scout team play is into your offense and play it accordingly.
Honestly this is a lot of times more beneficial to you as a QB because you’re getting reps against a full defense of starters at full speed, the minus being that it’s not necessarily your offensive plays your running.
Folks don’t understand, it’s incredibly difficult, probably the hardest job in all of sports!!! to be a backup QB, for this very reason. Because of limited to no reps and same expectations..
And that is you must come in and perform at the same level as the guy you replaced for your teammates, coaches and your own career security.
You come in and struggle an you’re evaluated of that performance, right or wrong, the league makes it’s judgements about you, that’s why it’s so hard for backups to have long careers that weren’t at one point full time starters (nod to guys like myself & my buddies @ChaseDaniel and @danorlovsky7 )
Yes it stinks that that’s the situation SS came into. I’ve been there, LITERALLY, with the Browns, as a rookie, as a mid round pick. So have many other rookies.. you play, you learn and grow and get better.. or you don’t.
Absolutely reps help, Absolutely he’ll be better with a full week of prep.
But those are the hands as backups we’re dealt, and in those moments and we have to make the most of them.
SS will be better with reps for sure. But if DG remains the guy the facts of life in an NFL practice still remains for us backups..
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Ryan Clark always defends Shaduer and even he’s tired of yalls conspiracy theories
That would make sense if Stafanksi wasn't going around saying he was developing Shaduer and invested in him. Literally every post game interview when Dillon was trash and folks asked him about Shaduer his response was he was developing him and he is invested in his young rookies and that's why he wasn't playing him yet.
Yeah, you're unhinged, lol, and contradict yourself all throughout this post.
As far as drafting QBs close together--it's called "hedging your bets"--Washington being the prime example of that with Cousins & RG3 but I'm sure you'll find a way to explain that away. And it's not 1:1 but the Browns themselves had Kessler and Kizer on the same roster together on some back-to-back shyt which normally doesn't happen either, but hey, it's the Browns.
Which leads me to my next point....what's more likely? That the incompetent Browns org that can't develop a QB as you mentioned is self-sabotaging some future goat or that they simply mishandle things in what is already a poor situation with 2 QBs who were always gonna have an uphill battle?
See, you got the wrong one, cuz no one is caping for that org by any means AND I think KS needs to be fired, but that'll has nothing to do with "setting him up to fail"
Reps get split all kind of ways for all kinds of reasons---and roles shift---and none of that hinges on YALL'S level of personal hype for someone.
"Nothing about what they're doing is normal". What
TLDR; Organization dysfunction...yes. Some grand scheme to (further) humble Shedeur while smiting their own face to try and not win games, I think not.
DropTopDoc
Smokin my Opps like Patrick Mahomes pops
Gabe is sanders with better college numbers
VegetasHairline
Veteran
So many former NFL players are on Twitter saying it's not unusual for backups to not get first team reps but this is all a grand conspiracy to sabotage Sheduer Sanders.
There was a player that said Justin Herbert wasn't even getting first team reps in training camps or practice all and he was the 6th overall pick.
There was a player that said Justin Herbert wasn't even getting first team reps in training camps or practice all and he was the 6th overall pick.
Eye Cue DA COLI GAWD
The new #12 is bold and black. Browns are back 😎
You are mistaken
RennisDeynolds
I am untethered and my rage knows no bounds!
Cam Ward is a lowkey dude. He doesn't say much and nobody really cared about him coming out of the draft.
For a 0 star recruit to the #1 draft pick should have been a HUGE story, but shedeur news overshadowed it.