Since when has the prerequisite in diss records been having actual information and proof?

MeachTheMonster

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In 2001, Jay was 31 when Ether dropped, not 36. As far as the Billy Blanks and Tae Bo, that wasn’t some legit martial arts classes. It was more like some cardio. That’s why it got so popular. Who’s learning martial arts from watching videos? Nas used that line Jay said on “Girls Girls Girls” and flipped it, plus that video of Jay boxing on MTV Diary.

“That means I fly rough early, plus I know Tae Bo” - Jay
“You 36 in a karate class? You Tae Bo hoe.” - Nas

Prodigy was dressed up like Michael Jackson as a kid doing a dance, and Jay said he was a ballerina. The point was to try to discredit P as a street dude by saying he was doing ballet.
You playing semantics, everybody knows Tae Bo isn’t a “karate class” and Jay-Z age is public info.:stopitslime:

But for the sake of a rank session it works. It’s funny, it’s witty, and it gets the point across. nikka was a middle aged supposed drug dealer learning kicks with billy blanks. That’s a funny juxtaposition of images and works to discredit Jay-Zs public image at the time.

This is how battles should work. You take truth, You make it funny, a little sensational, you put the person on defense having to explain “well i really ain’t 36 and that was a workout video”

It wasn’t just some random made up gossip with no proof or basis in reality.
 

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You playing semantics, everybody knows Tae Bo isn’t a “karate class” and Jay-Z age is public info.:stopitslime:

But for the sake of a rank session it works. It’s funny, it’s witty, and it gets the point across. nikka was a middle aged supposed drug dealer learning kicks with billy blanks.

This is how battles should work. You take truth, You make it funny, a little sensational, you put the person on defense having to explain “well i really ain’t 30 and that was a workout video”

It wasn’t just some random made up gossip with no proof or basis in reality.
I was responding to a dude who said Jay was REALLY taking martial arts and that Jay was REALLY 36. I know diss records can be exaggerated and funny, but the dude I was responding to said those things were true. They weren’t and they don’t have to be, which is the point of my thread.
 

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I was responding to a dude who said Jay was REALLY taking martial arts and that Jay was REALLY 36. I know diss records can be exaggerated and funny, but the dude I was responding to said those things were true. They weren’t and they don’t have to be, which is the point of my thread.
I think “true enough” is the bar that needs to be cleared:ehh:
 

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Softcore is simulated sex. Show me her even in a softcore scene. Thats like me saying Halle Berry a porn star or Angelina Jolie for being ass naked in a movie

Softcore pornography or softcore porn is commercial still photography, film, or art that has a pornographic or erotic component but is less sexually graphic and intrusive than hardcore pornography, defined by a lack of visual sexual penetration. It typically contains nude or semi-nude actors involved in love scenes and is intended to be sexually arousing and aesthetically beautiful.​

softcore

1) Pornographic material that does not show penetration, genitalia, or actual sexual activity, opposite of hardcore.

adjective. of, relating to, or containing sexually arousing depictions that are not fully explicit: soft-core pornography.: Compare hard-core (def. 2​

soft-core​

adjective

ˈsȯf(t)-ˈkȯr

Synonyms of soft-core
of pornography
: containing descriptions or scenes of sex acts that are less explicit than hard-core material
 

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Softcore pornography or softcore porn is commercial still photography, film, or art that has a pornographic or erotic component but is less sexually graphic and intrusive than hardcore pornography, defined by a lack of visual sexual penetration. It typically contains nude or semi-nude actors involved in love scenes and is intended to be sexually arousing and aesthetically beautiful.​

softcore

1) Pornographic material that does not show penetration, genitalia, or actual sexual activity, opposite of hardcore.

adjective. of, relating to, or containing sexually arousing depictions that are not fully explicit: soft-core pornography.: Compare hard-core (def. 2​

soft-core​

adjective

ˈsȯf(t)-ˈkȯr

Synonyms of soft-core
of pornography
: containing descriptions or scenes of sex acts that are less explicit than hard-core material
Show me a scene of hers
 

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A lot of our favorite diss tracks over the years contained content that was either opinion based, unsubstantiated, or straight up :duck:

I’m not about to do the research myself. All I care about is how they respond :yeshrug:

yeah there was definitely no receipts on "dre day". I'll give u that.
 

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Probably since the internet made gathering info the easiest thing ever.

Pusha T also deserves props for MASTERFULLY handling a purely fact based diss track. Story Of Addinon is literally 98% truth all the way down to the cover art. And VERIFIABLY so. The baby WAS being hidden. The mother WAS a porn star. Drake’s father DID leave his mother when he was a kid. 40 WAS sick.
which is why that song instantaneously ended that battle :heh:
 

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social media thing.

proof gets really subjective, but it's more like the idea of having "receipts"

also the concepts of texts and text threads, you can just post, which 25 years ago, wasn't really a thing.
 
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