Since when has the prerequisite in diss records been having actual information and proof?

[DontEemTry]

Such as?
I'll wait

Come on dawg, Rocafella was named after a nikka that died from aids?
Jay was fukking Foxy?
Jay calling 15 year old Nas in 1988?
Jay sayin he was better than Big? (the line was "If I ain't better than Big I'm the closest one")

I mean we could go on.

Nas won the battle, but at the same time diss records don't have to be factual to be effective. That's a completely new phenomenon in the social media era

 

[CarltonJunior]

She was not a porn star

And the kid wasnt hidden if he was about to be in a ad campaign

She was a pornstar, softcore, but that's a fact. Why are you in every thread bullshyttin

 

[Bryan Danielson]

Since Nas and Jay

 

[Da_Eggman]

Since Eazy-E and Real Muthaphukkin G'z.

Spot on

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

I honestly can't believe the shyt I been reading since last night.

Dudes want Drake to lose so bad they arguing that Kenny should be allowed to lie on him.

This shyt is mad corny at this point.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

I honestly can't believe the shyt I been reading since last night.

Dudes want Drake to lose so bad they arguing that Kenny should be allowed to lie on him.

This shyt is mad corny at this point.

Kendrick’s entire angle has been lies vs truth, but now the truth don’t matter

 

[Deltron]

Show me her fukking on tape

Because he didnt know if it was kid. He waited for the dna test. And when he found out he stepped up and was gonna include him in his shoe rollout. All this was mere months apart before Push even dissed him.

I still don’t understand how was that a dis. Now the other stuff on Adiddon was cold blodded. That baby shyt was weak then and still weak now

you don't think using your kid for a rollout is sick?

Your kid is not a product, your kid is your fukking kid.

 

[bigde09]

Show me her fukking on tape

Because he didnt know if it was kid. He waited for the dna test. And when he found out he stepped up and was gonna include him in his shoe rollout. All this was mere months apart before Push even dissed him.

I still don’t understand how was that a dis. Now the other stuff on Adiddon was cold blodded. That baby shyt was weak then and still weak now

You think it's okay to kiss underaged girls. You need to be on a watch list

 

[CoolinInTheCut]

Kendrick’s entire angle has been lies vs truth, but now the truth don’t matter

Exactly.

There's zero consistency here from Kendrick stans.

It's just "Drake gotta lose no matter what".

 

[L. Deezy]

Its all Jay fans tried to grasp to when losing to Nas

Its the same with Kenny fans losing to Drake so far with the records..

Same thing... bu bu bu..its more factual

Fuhk that Kenny got duped in the Biggest blunder in rap history...he still more factual according to them

 

[nieman]

The problem with casuals and posers, is that they don’t know sh*t about Hip Hop history.

If you use Jay and Nas and that battle, as an example. The sh*t they said about each other, away from their opinions and the jokes, was ALL true. Jay really was 36 training with Billy Blanks, who was really teaching people karate and martial arts back then. Jay really did show Nas his first tech on tour, with Large Professor there. He also really f*cked Nas’s baby moms. And the sh*t Nas was saying about Jay was all true too. About how he had his number but Nas didn’t give it to him. Everything.

So yeah, you’re supposed to be factual if you’re gonna say sh*t, in battles. No gossipy sh*t, but sh*t that other people can come out and verify.

Prodigy never said he was in ballet class. Jay got that from a third party (Ashanti), but it was real and Hov had pics. That’s how it’s supposed to go. You’re either spitting facts, or saying funny sh*t to make the listener laugh at the person you’re going at. But you don’t just make up sh*t and don’t show proof, just because you’re trying to distract from what was said about you or trying to just have anything to say.

But he didn't show him his first tech. He had one on tour. Large Pro said that wasn't Nas first time seeing a tech, only that Jay was strapped. Jay-Z wasn't 36 at that time. It's all hyperbole.

Hip-hop much like everything else, has become primarily gossip, with music coming in dead last. As opposed to the music first, then some of the gossip.

 

[Mystic]

Probably since the internet made gathering info the easiest thing ever.

Pusha T also deserves props for MASTERFULLY handling a purely fact based diss track. Story Of Addinon is literally 98% truth all the way down to the cover art. And VERIFIABLY so. The baby WAS being hidden. The mother WAS a porn star. Drake’s father DID leave his mother when he was a kid. 40 WAS sick.

The mother was NEVER A porn star so you just making shyt up now

 

[Ziggiy]

The mother was NEVER A porn star so you just making shyt up now

Oh your right she was just a whore. My bad

 

[I'm Blackman]

“Heard through the grapevine you got fukked fo times”

“You claim to be a player for life but I fukked your wife”

“And at Death Row I hear your getting treated like boot camp”

And plenty more examples of lyrics that we didn’t know were true or false at the time. But we still rocked with the songs

this

Drake stans acting like disses need video or recording evidence now.

 

[Po pimp]

The problem with casuals and posers, is that they don’t know sh*t about Hip Hop history.

If you use Jay and Nas and that battle, as an example. The sh*t they said about each other, away from their opinions and the jokes, was ALL true. Jay really was 36 training with Billy Blanks, who was really teaching people karate and martial arts back then. Jay really did show Nas his first tech on tour, with Large Professor there. He also really f*cked Nas’s baby moms. And the sh*t Nas was saying about Jay was all true too. About how he had his number but Nas didn’t give it to him. Everything.

So yeah, you’re supposed to be factual if you’re gonna say sh*t, in battles. No gossipy sh*t, but sh*t that other people can come out and verify.

Prodigy never said he was in ballet class. Jay got that from a third party (Ashanti), but it was real and Hov had pics. That’s how it’s supposed to go. You’re either spitting facts, or saying funny sh*t to make the listener laugh at the person you’re going at. But you don’t just make up sh*t and don’t show proof, just because you’re trying to distract from what was said about you or trying to just have anything to say.

In 2001, Jay was 31 when Ether dropped, not 36. As far as the Billy Blanks and Tae Bo, that wasn’t some legit martial arts classes. It was more like some cardio. That’s why it got so popular. Who’s learning martial arts from watching videos? Nas used that line Jay said on “Girls Girls Girls” and flipped it, plus that video of Jay boxing on MTV Diary.

“That means I fly rough early, plus I know Tae Bo” - Jay
“You 36 in a karate class? You Tae Bo hoe.” - Nas

Prodigy was dressed up like Michael Jackson as a kid doing a dance, and Jay said he was a ballerina. The point was to try to discredit P as a street dude by saying he was doing ballet.