Since when has the prerequisite in diss records been having actual information and proof?

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Can u show me this proof (hot topic right now)

Jay was on mtv diary taking boxing classes in 2000.

When they showed him driving to the boxing class on MTV Diary, that was like the only boxing lesson most of us ever heard he took, lol. Dame was the one who used to box. He used to workout and spar with Andre Berto and dudes like that. For some reason, Jay wanted to do the boxing sh*t for MTV. But that was the first and only time I ever heard of dude boxing in a gym.

The Billy Blanks thing was in magazines and the paper here. He was teaching Hov martial arts. That's literally where Nas got it from. Saying that Jay is doing all that training, but he would still knock him out. That wasn't a random made-up line, lol. Jay was really doing that sh*t.

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When they showed him driving to the boxing class on MTV Diary, that was like the only boxing lesson most of us ever heard he took, lol. Dame was the one who used to box. He used to workout and spar with Andre Berto and dudes like that. For some reason, Jay wanted to do the boxing sh*t for MTV. But that was the first and only time I ever heard of dude boxing in a gym.

The Billy Blanks thing was in magazines and the paper here. He was teaching Hov martial arts. That's literally where Nas got it from. Saying that Jay is doing all that training, but he would still knock him out. That wasn't a random made-up line, lol. Jay was really doing that sh*t.

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So no proof lol
 

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Posting videos of Serch speaking aren't going to be credible. Ever.

This dude lies for a living. But also said that he was asked to write rhymes for Rakim because he needed "help". The God had to come out and make a statement telling Serch that he would "knock him the f*ck out" for saying that. Serch been stealing money and lying since '91.
 

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The problem with casuals and posers, is that they don’t know sh*t about Hip Hop history.

If you use Jay and Nas and that battle, as an example. The sh*t they said about each other, away from their opinions and the jokes, was ALL true. Jay really was 36 training with Billy Blanks, who was really teaching people karate and martial arts back then. Jay really did show Nas his first tech on tour, with Large Professor there. He also really f*cked Nas’s baby moms. And the sh*t Nas was saying about Jay was all true too. About how he had his number but Nas didn’t give it to him. Everything.

So yeah, you’re supposed to be factual if you’re gonna say sh*t, in battles. No gossipy sh*t, but sh*t that other people can come out and verify.

Prodigy never said he was in ballet class. Jay got that from a third party (Ashanti), but it was real and Hov had pics. That’s how it’s supposed to go. You’re either spitting facts, or saying funny sh*t to make the listener laugh at the person you’re going at. But you don’t just make up sh*t and don’t show proof, just because you’re trying to distract from what was said about you or trying to just have anything to say.

Nas suggested J messed around with Foxy which she vehemently denied

When it meant the most Un pointed the finger at J for the stabbing... and over the yrs multiple others have as well
 

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Nas suggested J messed around with Foxy which she vehemently denied

When it meant the most Un pointed the finger at J for the stabbing... and over the yrs multiple others have as well

He did.

But before the beef even happened, that was pretty much common knowledge in the business. Nas was saying a lot of sh*t that everyone was either already saying or thinking. But that's what made "Ether" so potent. Someone was saying all the sh*t people were whispering about, but out loud.
 

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This is different. You cant call someone a fukking pedophile, and claim he has a daughter, without proof. If thats your ENTIRE fukking diss, it better be true. These are not simple bars kendrick is dropping, its ... his entire song based around it.
FOH Aubrey denied or at least tried to cover up having an offspring once before and he is indeed a child predator



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He did.

But before the beef even happened, that was pretty much common knowledge in the business. Nas was saying a lot of sh*t that everyone was either already saying or thinking. But that's what made "Ether" so potent. Someone was saying all the sh*t people were whispering about, but out loud.

Did what?

Fact is Foxy, the alleged victim, denied it multiple times ...that anything inappropriate happened

And never has said any different

Also her cousin Clark Kent is tight with J

And she was with Haitian Jack around that time
 

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2001. Most of the Takeover vs Ether arguments were “ether/takover was all facts, ether/takeover was just jokes. That’s why Nas/Jay won” before it was about who talked the best shyt and who sent the wild threats, with the best flow and beats.

50 and Ja kind of solidified it with everybody in High School arguing over who was really the realest, who had the best goons, who was gon get they ass beat, etc.
 

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Did what?

Fact is Foxy, the alleged victim, denied it multiple times ...that anything inappropriate happened

And never has said any different

Also her cousin Clark Kent is tight with J

And she was with Haitian Jack around that time

Without saying too much, I will say that Nas doesn't just say sh*t to get laughs and to discredit people.

Everything he said on "Ether", was sh*t people had already been saying for years.
 
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