Six Goddess Ends Fatphobia With Epic Fat Shaming Episode

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But let's follow your logic. If obese Black women are the majority and we have overwhelmingly single female -led parent homes in our community, then their eating habits are still being passed on and copied by their sons and daughters. I'm actually concerned about the eating habits being practiced in our homes. This fake outrage about body positivity has nothing to do with people's concerns for health, just how women look. If people were really concerned we'd be having more conversation about what everyone is eating, cooking, growing. Our men and women are more prone to heart disease and stroke. Which is why the approach of waiting until a woman puts on weight to talk to her isn't really addressing the problem, if that's even the problem people actually care about.
That's a lot of jeulzing. :why:

1. The graphs tells no lies. Obesity is more of an issue for black women than any other group. Full stop. So when talking about it, we can and should talk about them.

2. When a problem impacts black men more than any other group, we talk about the men outright. We don't drag women into it, even though one could. Yet when we talk about an issue that effects black women, suddenly we are supposed to talk about black men too, even when it doesn't include them? That makes no sense at all.

3. The only fake outrage I'm seeing is yours. You're in your feelings and unfortunately for you, your feelings are absolutely and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. This is science, not a damned seance.

4. If anything, your long-winded resistance or desire to muddy the conversation at hand along with the foolishness of fat acceptance is why many are taking the approach to this topic as they are.

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To clarify, you're too willing to make suppositions rather than outright identifying the issue first. Many people are not aware of it. Once the issue is readily identified and accepted then we can look into causes, though all your guesses rely on too many assumptions.
 
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She’s right in that big women usually have some money and good credit and alotta dudes use em to get on their feet when they’re struggling. But that’s because the bigger girls knew and/or were raised to know they weren’t gonna be able to rely on their looks to get and keep a man. Same with “ugly” women. It used to be like that for dark skin women too, because we worshipped light skin. So they use what they have.

No different than a fat or ugly man with some money trying to use that to get a fine woman

Old girl is fine. How many kids she have? Is she the one with like 5 or 6 kids?
 

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This is weird and seems sexist. Where's the discussion about fat Black men? Obesity is a Black COMMUNITY problem.


Slightly less than 70 percent of black men in the United States are either overweight or obese, the survey noted. In white men, that figure is 73 percent. And about 78 percent of Hispanic men are overweight or obese, the survey said.


#TheChildOfManEquation:wow:
 

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I don't deny this, but NOBODY has a problem telling fat men they are fat. It's not a propaganda issue on black men's side regarding obesity. We know what it is and we know the lifestyle that comes with it and we know what it is available to us dating wise if we get obese.

You don't see fat black men splayed on billboards, Kendra G's show always got fat chicks demaing the man be in shape, men don't generally have that level of delusion

That's because the beauty industry is driven by capitalism, and ugly big women will pay out the nose to be beautiful. I don't understand why there's confusion about this.

That's a lot of jeulzing. :why:

1. The graphs tells no lies. Obesity is more of an issue for black women than any other group. Full stop. So when talking about it, we can and should talk about them.

2. When a problem impacts black men more than any other group, we talk about the men outright. We don't drag women into it, even though one could. Yet when we talk about an issue that effects black women, suddenly we are supposed to talk about black men too, even when it doesn't include them? That makes no sense at all.

3. The only fake outrage I'm seeing is yours. You're in your feelings and unfortunately for you, your feelings are absolutely and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. This is science, not a damned seance.

4. If anything, your long-winded resistance or desire to muddy the conversation at hand along with the foolishness of fat acceptance is why many are taking the approach to this topic as they are.

I'm not outraged, I just know that talking to a woman after she gets big is too late. It's addressing the problem way too late, and it doesn't even address the real problem that led to her getting big. What you're going to get is someone either in denial and dumping you/getting mad, or someone going to get cut up to get a BBL or lipo, which doesn't work because the fat comes back because they haven't or won't change their lifestyle. I just think all this discussion about "talking to people" after they get big misses the boat completely, which is why it doesn't seem to have anything to do with health, just how good someone looks. If your girl is eating McDonald's and is a nice size you should still be concerned. We're killing ourselves, and it starts a lot earlier than when someone blows up.
 

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That's because the beauty industry is driven by capitalism, and ugly big women will pay out the nose to be beautiful. I don't understand why there's confusion about this.



I'm not outraged, I just know that talking to a woman after she gets big is too late. It's addressing the problem way too late, and it doesn't even address the real problem that led to her getting big. What you're going to get is someone either in denial and dumping you/getting mad, or someone going to get cut up to get a BBL or lipo, which doesn't work because the fat comes back because they haven't or won't change their lifestyle. I just think all this discussion about "talking to people" after they get big misses the boat completely, which is why it doesn't seem to have anything to do with health, just how good someone looks. If your girl is eating McDonald's and is a nice size you should still be concerned. We're killing ourselves, and it starts a lot earlier than when someone blows up.
It's not too late though and if that is the issue, it would be wise to address why that is. Are they under a delusion, or something else? I used the word medicalized earlier since that is what has been done with obesity: it is regarded as an actual medical condition and thus health providers are equipped with more information and tools outside of merely asking people to lose weight. The issue should be put forth but we should also push to end any and all forms of fat acceptance in the mean time. Not doing so sends mixed messaging. It is no different when in trying to end tobacco use, images of smoking was removed or limited from various forms of media and at the very least, an effort was made to make it seem less cool. It became a mark of foolishness in people and many efforts were taken to make people quit smoking. Even more so, those people had actual physiological reasons to continue smoking and yet have been able to kick the habit. The same can be done for obese people but nothing will be done if we p*ssyfoot the issue and don't actually address it directly. Stopping fat acceptance is part of that.
 

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That's a lot of jeulzing. :why:

1. The graphs tells no lies. Obesity is more of an issue for black women than any other group. Full stop. So when talking about it, we can and should talk about them.

2. When a problem impacts black men more than any other group, we talk about the men outright. We don't drag women into it, even though one could. Yet when we talk about an issue that effects black women, suddenly we are supposed to talk about black men too, even when it doesn't include them? That makes no sense at all.

3. The only fake outrage I'm seeing is yours. You're in your feelings and unfortunately for you, your feelings are absolutely and utterly irrelevant to the topic at hand. This is science, not a damned seance.

4. If anything, your long-winded resistance or desire to muddy the conversation at hand along with the foolishness of fat acceptance is why many are taking the approach to this topic as they are.

Edit:
To clarify, you're too willing to make suppositions rather than outright identifying the issue first. Many people are not aware of it. Once the issue is readily identified and accepted then we can look into causes, though all your guesses rely on too many assumptions.
:wow:
 

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Yall concern yourselves too much with people you don’t supposedly care about. And yall stay treating these YouTubers as some sort of authority. Very weird behavior.

It really is bizarre how much discussion goes on about things people claim they don't care about- trans people, old women, fat people. Why would you want to talk day in and day out about the same 4-5 topics centered around people you supposedly don't care about?
 

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She’s right in that big women usually have some money and good credit and alotta dudes use em to get on their feet when they’re struggling. But that’s because the bigger girls knew and/or were raised to know they weren’t gonna be able to rely on their looks to get and keep a man. Same with “ugly” women. It used to be like that for dark skin women too, because we worshipped light skin. So they use what they have.

No different than a fat or ugly man with some money trying to use that to get a fine woman

Old girl is fine. How many kids she have? Is she the one with like 5 or 6 kids?
She only has one so she gon be aight :lolbron:
 

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It really is bizarre how much discussion goes on about things people claim they don't care about- trans people, old women, fat people. Why would you want to talk day in and day out about the same 4-5 topics centered around people you supposedly don't care about?

Exactly. Motherfukkas love to gossip. And it be the SAME suspects in those type of threads.
 

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Yall concern yourselves too much with people you don’t supposedly care about. And yall stay treating these YouTubers as some sort of authority. Very weird behavior.
They're more concerned about the effect it has on the community as a whole. Obesity is a serious issue. I'll never understand this push to put apathy on a pedestal, then the minute shyt gets crazy, you'll want people to care.
 

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It's not too late though and if that is the issue, it would be wise to address why that is. Are they under a delusion, or something else? I used the word medicalized earlier since that is what has been done with obesity: it is regarded as an actual medical condition and thus health providers are equipped with more information and tools outside of merely asking people to lose weight. The issue should be put forth but we should also push to end any and all forms of fat acceptance in the mean time. Not doing so sends mixed messaging. It is no different when in trying to end tobacco use, images of smoking was removed or limited from various forms of media and at the very least, an effort was made to make it seem less cool. It became a mark of foolishness in people and many efforts were taken to make people quit smoking. Even more so, those people had actual physiological reasons to continue smoking and yet have been able to kick the habit. The same can be done for obese people but nothing will be done if we p*ssyfoot the issue and don't actually address it directly. Stopping fat acceptance is part of that.

I think there is a line between fat acceptance, and not dehumanizing people because they are big. Some people really do go all or nothing. Like just because people are fat doesn't mean they should be treated poorly. I also think people with really low self esteem and shame will not work out. I've seen really big people in the gym and they are super self conscious and it makes me wonder how many more just won't go because of the shame. There's also studies that show that the more you shame fat people, the more they will retreat into their little hole and eat their feelings away, it's counter productive. Yea a few people may be inspired to change, but if shaming really worked, we wouldn't have any fat people. So there needs to be balance there.

The problem with your analogy is that people have to eat. So "quitting" isn't an option. Losing weight is important, but we are not teaching people HOW to eat. If you just drop the weight and still eat shyt, you're still unhealthy. I work with kids, and it's crazy how many kids think McDonald's and soda are fine as long as they aren't fat. These girls and boys will continue to consume this shyt, and then when they hit 30 and blow up, they will blame it on aging or genes. But it's really hard to deprogram someone from eating shyt after they've been doing it for decades, especially since they have to eat everyday anyway and the fast food is right there and cheap. I just think our focus is wrong when it comes to food. Michelle Obama had the right idea, it starts really early.
 
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