Nah I dont think its on the producer. The thing that made producers soo dope to me was that everybody couldn't do it. Everyone can't scratch like Premo, Everyone can't chop like 9th, everyone can't have Havocs drums but when you got a bunch of dudes trying to do the above then the saturation begins and its a bunch of carbons out here.
Nah I understand producers beats are used in other avenues than rap and I respect that get that $. But once again if dudes not getting paid for it how can they call themselves a producer?
My sole argument is that making the music makes you a producer of music. I also look at making music as art not necessarily a business.
You're right. I am saying beatmaker and producer are not the same job. One person can do both. His man does deserve producing credit and you getting a writer's credit. However, your look on 'producing' is an occurrence primarily in hip-hop because they do not know. Producing and beatmaking became synonymous in hip-hop because the dude had to do everything with the current technology back then.
Can we a agree a producer is a title?
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I get your point but it is about being certified in regards to those professions.
well again, it's up to the producers to come up with something that not everyone can do. this is how the craft advances. now producers have to work harder and do more intense soul searching to invent things that can't be duplicated and differentiate themselves. you gotta make your style and beats so dope it's just undeniable. if you do that and put your soul into it, how are other people gonna imitate your soul? putting your soul into it requires sacrifice though but that's how the craft advances.
See..I used to complain about shyt like this...then I figured out that it's pointless...the less talented cats get weeded out or if they do get on...it's for like a split second...it's no point to even get mad at the shyt especially if u nice at what u do...u don't think true artists can tell the difference from somebody who got talent vs some novice wit no skills?..shyt..rapping is way worse and it got to the point where there is damn near no standards but it is what it is...it's less about the people doing it than it is about the people who accept the shyt wit open arms and don't call out the wackness...the more people call out the wackness...less people will try to saturate the market and more people will work on their craft to get better...but I damn sure ain't on some insecure shyt when it comes to telling people I'm an artist and producer cause guess what?..I'm nice....fukk everybody else...
this.
People can't have hobbies anymore?
I agree but there's a difference between being a beatmaker, being a producer, and being an artist. 99% of these self proclaimed beatmaker are NOT artists.I respect the in house producers who actually take the time to learn the fundamentals of production. But you got dudes who download the software or buy a maschine now they tell everyone they producers. Its too gimmicky for me and there's a market for these people. Do you realize more money is made nowadays off equipment than actual music that is being produced.
