Smokey Robinson Resents Being Called African American

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Even though I don't like to disagree with Smokey, especially after how his music got us through hard times back in the day, but he lost me on this one. With all the information out today, I thought he was gonna go ahead and say he was a Hebrew Israelite, or a Israelite. I'm sure Smokey know who we really are by now. I guess he didn't wanna get the De Sean Jackson, or Nick Cannon treatment.

What Smokey said about black always being linked to things negative, is something I've heard for years. I think Dr. King even said this. But in reality, black already had a negative meaning. In other words, Whites didn't created the name black for us, they just linked us to that name. And til this day, we still shouldn't be going by that name. Anybody can see we are brown, even though that name would have been incorrect too. I'm not gonna get into the entomology of the word black, and what it really meant for us during slavery, but it was one of the bi-words given to us to mean we were servants. The others bi-words were Negro and Colored, with the last one being African-American, the one Jesse Jackson helped give us. But Black was the worst out of the four. Why we choose to hang on to the worst bi-word Black, is one of the biggest psych games ever.

This all started after James Brown released, "I'm Black and I'm Proud". I know this is gonna sound crazy to yall, and I'm not saying we should ever go by this name again that I'm about to mention, but I felt more "Black and Proud" so to speak, when we were Colored. I felt more unity. You could never say you were more Colorer than another brother, like you can say you are more Blacker than another brother, trying to indicate you're more pure or original, which makes no sense, and can lead to division. During this time, being Colored was equal to saying you were Melanated. Tbh, White people were more envious of us when we were called Colored, since they couldn't be Colored, just like they can't be called Melanated. Being Colored meant you could have been dark-brown, brown, light-brown, golden-yellow, a so-called red-bone, or any shade of brown, or in between. It was beautiful. Nobody wanted to be White, or too close to it, unless you wanted to live with them. Tbh, when "Black and I'm Proud" came out, dark-skinned Black people who didn't really listen to the lyrics, felt more like the song was for them, even though the song didn't mention anything about skin-tone. But when you look at James Brown, I believe people still think it was made more for dark-skinned Blacks in their subconscious. I mean dark-skin is more closer to black than light-skin...lets not fool ourselves. So you probably still have grown-ups today who think the song was about dark-skin, when it was really about us as a people, who are really the Hebrews, or the Israelites. Calling ourselves Black can also subconsciously divide us sometimes, when we're together, and not uniting from Whites. If you don't believe me, say black one time too many, when you're the only light-skinned person in the room. You would have thought you called somebody a spook, especially with all the focus on colorism these last two decades. What's so sad is, this can happen within your own family. I think it was done on purpose.

Btw, if you search the word black in the King James Version, you'll see that every time it's associated with the Israelites, it's always linked to our lamentations and sufferings: Job:30:30, Song of Songs 1:5-6, Jeremiah 8:12 , Jeremiah 14:2, and Lamentations 5:10. I see why our ancestors fought so hard against the bi-word Black. That word seems to be linked with our curses, and away from our blessings. If you can see this, and you know you're really a Israelite, then something is wrong with you if you still want us to be called Black. I know we're not gonna stop going by the name Black overnight, and for now we have to go by that name, but no way in the world should anybody be fighting to keep that name.
 
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The only positive black connotation I know is "in the black" and was quite surprised it is in the financial world vs "in the red". I guess has to do with the ink used.

I don't understand how the "African" part of African American takes away from "American" part of the term. The "African" acknowledges that we are descendants of unknown African tribes/nations. People who were forcibly taken from their lands and had their culture stripped from the moment they arrived America. I understand preferring to be called "Black" American like cacs are called "white" Americans but our circumstances in this country are different. They have been since the beginning, we didn't even become full citizens until recently. Whether we are called Black American or AA, it doesn't change how cacs see us or the role they believe we play in their country.

Yes, their country. Cacs have historically made it abundantly clear who this country is for. They only care about our contributions when we play our roles. This won't change no matter what we call ourselves. We should stop expecting cacs to voluntary see us as equals. They only speak on language.

I personally believe Black and AA are not mutually exclusive. They're interchangeable in most situations.

I would have thought Americans would have appreciated the acknowledgement that your originality is of the home continent and not of America. On the flip side I can see how it can make you feel as not being "one of us" like other Americans. Nowadays I presume the other reason to back out of it is the cross-Atlantic "beef" generated by YouTube and Twitter agitators who are looking to rile up their base supporters to generate more views/retweets and ultimately more $

But the reality is that outside of your great-great grandparent (depending on your age of course), you're lineage is African, quite simply..

In UK we're classed as Black-British or being having Black African heritage.
 
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When you look at Smokey, and hear him say he never plans on visiting Africa, it makes me wonder if he already did, and had a bad experience because he was too light, and nobody knew he was Smokey Robinson.
 

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IDK what that means. How am I wrong in what I'm saying?
You're not wrong. People here are being very—and I mean VERY—intellectually disingenuous. There isn't a white group out here that doesn't refer to their ancestral hertiage. I'm from Chelsea, Mass so Italians were........ Italian. Even after decades and generations in this country, I rarely heard themselves refer themselves as Italian-Americans and that could go double for the Irish.

Cats from VA and other former 13 colonies know rich cacs can trace for linage back to the British Hamlet. George Washington is a good example.

From the Chi? Then you know where a Pollack is and where their from.

Upper Midwest? German culture permeates there.

Call yourself black instead of AA?


But I'm Zoed Up, Foes down so lemme shut my tether ass up. :sas2:
 

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I don't understand how the "African" part of African American takes away from "American" part of the term. The "African" acknowledges that we are descendants of unknown African tribes/nations. People who were forcibly taken from their lands and had their culture stripped from the moment they arrived America. I understand preferring to be called "Black" American like cacs are called "white" Americans but our circumstances in this country are different. They have been since the beginning, we didn't even become full citizens until recently. Whether we are called Black American or AA, it doesn't change how cacs see us or the role they believe we play in their country.

Yes, their country. Cacs have historically made it abundantly clear who this country is for. They only care about our contributions when we play our roles. This won't change no matter what we call ourselves. We should stop expecting cacs to voluntary see us as equals. They only speak on language.

I personally believe Black and AA are not mutually exclusive. They're interchangeable in most situations.

YET I AINT NEVER
HEARD OTHER ENSLAVED nikkaS
CALL THEMSELVES
AN AFRICAN JAMAICAN,
AFRICAN HAITIAN, AFRICAN BELIZEAN
AFRICAN ETC.



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Those are all already considered 'Black' countries..:comeon:

America is nowhere considered a 'Black' country..
FOH WITH THIS
WEAK ASS REPLY.


ALL THOSE COUNTRIES
WERE SLAVE COLONIES.

THEYRE ALL STILL
ON THE LAND THEIR ANCESTORS
WERE ENSLAVED ON.

TELL THEM TO PUT AFRICAN
IN THEIR NAMES.

THOSE DOMINICANS
AINT CALLING THEMSELVES AFRICAN DOMINICANS
AND NEITHER ARE THE BLACK RICANS.

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This African American shyt needs to stop forreal. Time we take a stand on this fukkshyt, don't nobody call these thieving ass, leeching ass neanderthals - European Americans .:stopitslime:

100% agree

Why are White people the only group who doesn't have a foreign location attached to their race description?

Black Americans are native to America
A question no one wants to answer. Smokey is 100% correct.
 

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They switched up what we've wanted to be called and what they've wanted to call us all the time...

That's not what I'm getting at tho...

You are an African, brought here from Africa to America.

It's cool if he doesn't want to be called that... But his explanation was dumb.
And I think he says he hasn't been to Africa or wants to go ..

I'm sure this b*stards had been to every European county you can name tho .

It's all good .. I don't care about what another muthafuka thinks but it Was just funny seeing all u nikkaz co-signing that shyt... When y'all quick to call everybody c00ns
Yes, all our ancestors came from Africa including those that were in America before Columbus and the victims of the inquisition. That doesn't change the fact that terms like African American, European American are misnomers.
 
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