So apparently this is "Kanye West's dream team"

[Tookalossfellbackcameback]

Stop comparing this nikka to MJ. Not in the same stratosphere. Creatively. Talent wise or anything.

Dudes need to cut that shyt out. Ever since it was revealed that Ye works with a million people for his albums the defense has been..."well, Mike did the same shyt". When did it become ok to mention Mike and Ye in the same breath? And I still mess with Ye musically...but c'mon dog.

 

[spliz]

Dudes need to cut that shyt out. Ever since it was revealed that Ye works with a million people for his albums the defense has been..."well, Mike did the same shyt". When did it become ok to mention Mike and Ye in the same breath? And I still mess with Ye musically...but c'mon dog.

And. Mike wrote, produced and arranged ALOT of his music. Which wasn't even a requirement for his genre of music. He literally fought for his creativity.

 

[RTF]

Stop comparing this nikka to MJ. Not in the same stratosphere. Creatively. Talent wise or anything.

LOL what's the problem.

People use the idea that because Kanye has a large team together when making his music - it is them that have all the talent and Ye is Britney Spears. Please let me know if i'm wrong.

The point with MJ is that he also had large teams working on his albums... and he happens to be an undeniable musical genius. The team doesn't diminish from MJ's talent. Same with Ye, whatever level you think he's at is down to his own talent primarily. Even the greatest of all time had a large team so.... why can't Kanye?

I also mentioned a band. Most bands stick to the capabilities of the 4 members. You look at Arcade Fire and their musical landscape, 4 people can't put that together.

 

[spliz]

LOL what's the problem.

People use the idea that because Kanye has a large team together when making his music - it is them that have all the talent and Ye is Britney Spears. Please let me know if i'm wrong.

The point with MJ is that he also had large teams working on his albums... and he happens to be an undeniable musical genius. The team doesn't diminish from MJ's talent. Same with Ye, whatever level you think he's at is down to his own talent primarily. Even the greatest of all time had a large team so.... why can't Kanye?

I also mentioned a band. Most bands stick to the capabilities of the 4 members. You look at Arcade Fire and their musical landscape, 4 people can't put that together.

No. Just no. I'm not even gonna waste my breath on this.

 

[RTF]

And. Mike wrote, produced and arranged ALOT of his music. Which wasn't even a requirement for his genre of music. He literally fought for his creativity.

I'm not discrediting someone's ability because of having help. You are.

Mike was a genius. Mike's albums couldn't have been made without a great team around him.

Kanye West is a talented artist. Kanye's albums couldn't have been made without a great team around him.


Wosdaproblem?

99% of great things in the world involve a large team of people. Wosdaproblem?

 

[RTF]

No. Just no. I'm not even gonna waste my breath on this.

But honestly g - what's the problem?
Forget Ye.

If I said... Mike Jackson's albums wouldn't be what they are without his large team around him - would that be a problem? To me, it's a no-brainer. MJ was a genius but he needed other people's skill, creativity and sometimes vision to make his art as thoroughly exceptional as it is. The sheer ambition of his albums meant a lot of people needed to work on them.

To me.. that same ambition in sound is what requires a Ye album to need so many contributors. All Ye albums are essentially collages. Elements of boom-bap, samples, live percussion, drum programming, strings, raps, singing. So many different points of reference. Whether you think Ye pulls it off is another question but the ambition is there.

 

[spliz]

I'm not discrediting someone's ability because of having help. You are.

Mike was a genius. Mike's albums couldn't have been made without a great team around him.

Kanye West is a talented artist. Kanye's albums couldn't have been made without a great team around him.


Wosdaproblem?

99% of great things in the world involve a large team of people. Wosdaproblem?

nikka. This is hip hop. U can't compare musical genre's. If Mike didn't write one line. The nikka still had one of a kind vocals. Dancing ability. nikka literally created his own dance style. Sort of like what Bruce Lee did with Jeet Kune Do. revolutionized music videos. Broke boundaries for black culture and made it so cats like Kanye could have a platform to go on his little rants. nikka. What the fukk does Kanye have if he ain't writing his rhymes? Ain't making his beats? Ain't coming up with his own ideas? And needs a million people to help him make a mediocre product?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

What's the allure of working with Rick Rubin? IMO, he's been washed for years (hip-hop wise) and all that minimalist shyt I keep hearing he brings is mad overstated

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

nikka. This is hip hop. U can't compare musical genre's. If Mike didn't write one line. The nikka still had one of a kind vocals. Dancing ability. nikka literally created his own dance style. Sort of like what Bruce Lee did with Jeet Kune Do. Did revolutionized music videos. Broke boundaries for black culture and made it so cats like Kanye could have a platform to go on his little rants. nikka. What the fukk does Kanye have if he ain't writing his rhymes? Ain't making his beats? Ain't coming up with his own ideas? And needs a million people to help him make a mediocre product?

 

[brother walt]

Kanye done i see why his album felt like it was everywhere

 

[NormanConnors]

LOL what's the problem.

People use the idea that because Kanye has a large team together when making his music - it is them that have all the talent and Ye is Britney Spears. Please let me know if i'm wrong.

The point with MJ is that he also had large teams working on his albums... and he happens to be an undeniable musical genius. The team doesn't diminish from MJ's talent. Same with Ye, whatever level you think he's at is down to his own talent primarily. Even the greatest of all time had a large team so.... why can't Kanye?

I also mentioned a band. Most bands stick to the capabilities of the 4 members. You look at Arcade Fire and their musical landscape, 4 people can't put that together.

Comparing Kanye to Michael Jackson

 

[Ziggiy]

Consequence "Class Pest"

 

[wild100sboy]

Whatever happened to GLC?

 

[CrimsonTider]

Kanye is done musically

Every Kanye album and used this proveee and so does most albums if you have the resources

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

Every Kanye album and used this proveee and so does most albums if you have the resources

Don't quote me fakkit