So apparently this is "Kanye West's dream team"

[theflyest]

I don't like or dislike Kanye. I am very indifferent.

What some of guys gotta understand that Kanye, like most artists, are the most creative early in their careers. Although there are exceptions, an artist best material is usually their early material. They eventually max out what they can do on their own. You can either fall off or look for help. You got a guy that is 38 years old, kids, wife, etc. What do you really expect?

He was never a spitter like that, so It's no surprise he needs help on the writing side. He's always had help anyway.

I'll admit it must be disappointing to see he needs 100 nyggas on the production side, when he has shown he's capable of going it alone by himself in the past, but those years are over.

I actually had no intention of listening to the album, but after seeing his "dream" team, I'm curious what the final product is.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

this is probably one of the more hilarious distinctions made as an excuse for someone else writing your rhymes that I've seen...NOW we want to parse and break shyt down with nuance... props

You know yourself you were reaching with that bullshyt . Pac ain't even alive to defend himself, it certainly wouldn't be the first time someone lied on him or exaggerated truths to keep their name out there

 

[RichYung]

this is probably one of the more hilarious distinctions made as an excuse for someone else writing your rhymes that I've seen...NOW we want to parse and break shyt down with nuance... props

it's amazing

 

[RichYung]

I'm still Baffled that you nikkas think artist record like your cousin making his demo. like y'all REALLY are clueless about this shyt wow.

 

[Insensitive]

One man produced this album and it's easily, EASILY fukking with The Life Of Pablo
but I'm supposed to buy this myth that you need an army of dudes to make music.


TheColi.com brehs.

He wrote all of his verses.
Made all of his beats.
And he's friends with several musicians who'll play his ideas once he's
written them down. Minimizing his use of samples and emphasizing his
ability to compose on top of that he's the executive producer.
Immensely talented artist and if he has to, he can flip a sample
and make a straight banger.

 

[spliz]

I'm still Baffled that you nikkas think artist record like your cousin making his demo. like y'all REALLY are clueless about this shyt wow.

I don't know who thinks that. But when a nikka is doing literally damn near nothing himself and u got psychos comparing this nikka to Michael Jackson. That shyt is a problem.

 

[BigSteve]

He has Metro, Southside, and Thugger on the album, then goes for the poor man's Future. I still feel like that's a slap in the face to Future.

 

[Long Live The Kane]

You know yourself you were reaching with that bullshyt . Pac ain't even alive to defend himself, it certainly wouldn't be the first time someone lied on him or exaggerated truths to keep their name out there

I'm the one reaching, but your response to someone refuting you categorically denying no one EVER wrote rhymes for pac is some worthless ass Bill Clinton-esque "it depends what the definition of is, is" double-speak built around being written FOR

Basically these type of conversations are a waste of time for anything other than comedic purposes when y'all selectively come with all this righteous indignation, then turn around and don't even pretend to have some kind consistent standard or even feign being intellectually honest when things turn towards an inconvenient truth

Dude writing pacs rhymes on 2pacalypse Now is really independent of what you originally responded to...and I agree dude that listed engineers and background singers and shyt for AEOM had a stupid point...so don't think I'm expecting you to come up with some response to the ray luv shyt that actually makes sense and is consistent everything else, I know better...it's all jokes for me

 

[CouldntBeMeTho]

There is a difference between friends collaborating and exchanging ideas and outright hiring someone to write verses for you. For some reason you new weirdos don't seem to be able to understand the difference.

Kanye hired a whole room full of writers

This dude really compared Pac to Kanye. Must be a ktt plant

 

[BigSteve]

That would seriously be like if he had Zaytoven produce a couple of tracks and had an unknown rapper from Queens ad libbing "burr!"

 

[RichYung]

I don't know who thinks that. But when a nikka is doing literally damn near nothing himself and u got psychos comparing this nikka to Michael Jackson. That shyt is a problem.

What do you mean "you don't know who's doing that" literally EVERY thread when this shyt comes up people are like " no way man!!!!! My favorite does it ALLLL himself!!"

I think people are comparing the recording process man.... You know better than that.

 

[Kobes Two Jerseys]

That list includes engineers and people responsible for things like string arrangement.

You've got to figure Kanye's main skill is vision and taste. His developmental music skills are rapping, singing, writing, sampler & drum machine. Even then he gets people to help him with all 5 of those. Then he's got people for keys. People for strings. Engineers and such.

An Arcade Fire album or a Mike Jackson album would have many people contributing to them too.

Go watch the Spike Lee joint he did on Michael. Then feel like a complete jackass for even thinking of conparing the two.

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

One man produced this album and it's easily, EASILY fukking with The Life Of Pablo
but I'm supposed to buy this myth that you need an army of dudes to make music.


TheColi.com brehs.

Dizzee Rascal produced his entire first album at 16 and it's one of the greatest albums to ever come out the UK. He won the mercury music award for it at 17 and when on to open up shows for Hov with the Clipse performing it.

Title Writer(s) Length
1. "Sittin' Here" Dylan Mills 4:05
2. "Stop Dat" Mills 3:40
3. "I Luv U" Mills 4:05
4. "Brand New Day" Mills 4:00
5. "2 Far" (featuring Wiley) Richard Cowie, Mills 3:07
6. "Fix Up, Look Sharp" Nick Detnon, Mills, Billy Squier 3:44
7. "Cut 'Em Off" Mills 3:53
8. "Hold Ya Mouf" (featuring God’s Gift) Jerome Dow, Mills 2:55
9. "Round We Go" (co-produced by Chubby Dread) Hector, Mills 4:13
10. "Jus' a Rascal" (featuring Taz) (co-produced by Taz & Vanguard) Mills, Tesmond Rowe, Vanguard Vardoen 3:39
11. "Wot U On?" (featuring Caramel) Mills 4:50
12. "Jezebel" Mills 3:36
13. "Seems 2 Be" Mills 3:46
14. "Live O" Mills 3:35
15. "Do It!" Mills 4:06

Apart from the features he wrote every verse and hook (excluding samples) too. Obviously we don't expect everyone to work like this but don't act like you need 50 people in a room to make great music

 

[Capo Dei Capi]

What do you mean "you don't know who's doing that" literally EVERY thread when this shyt comes up people are like " no way man!!!!! My favorite does it ALLLL himself!!"

I think people are comparing the recording process man.... You know better than that.

We're talking about writing mainly. I don't know who these others dudes listen to but nobody in my top 10 has teams of writers or anybody just handing them verses to spit verbatim. You guys can keep reaching for examples of actual artists collaborating all you want it isn't gonna make us respect kanye or drake.

 

[RichYung]

We're talking about writing mainly. I don't know who these others dudes listen to but nobody in my top 10 has teams of writers or anybody just handing them verses to spit verbatim. You guys can keep reaching for examples of actual artists collaborating all you want it isn't gonna make us respect kanye or drake.

I don't care WHO you respect nikka. Wtf are you talking about?