So Biggs said Lyor wanted to drop Kanye and the Young Gunz

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He was right young gunz where garbage and Kanye is a garbage rapper even today looking back he got it right. dont confuse media coverage and millions packed into marketing as a viable gauge to measure an artists success and ye and them are now more celebrities than musicians.

beyonce been getting flop after flop for like 5 straight years, her last one was all about a video and that show performance the song vanished into thin air. kendrick and them same shyt.

im with lyor on those 2 calls :yeshrug:
 

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He was right young gunz where garbage and Kanye is a garbage rapper even today looking back he got it right. dont confuse media coverage and millions packed into marketing as a viable gauge to measure an artists success and ye and them are now more celebrities than musicians.

beyonce been getting flop after flop for like 5 straight years, her last one was all about a video and that show performance the song vanished into thin air. kendrick and them same shyt.

im with lyor on those 2 calls :yeshrug:
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Nobody believed in Kanye. No budget for the first single, paid for it himself. Lyor froze his budget then unfroze it when he heard Breathe In Breathe Out lol.
The way nobody believe(s)d In his fashion line is the way nobody believed in Kanyes music. Only when he turned in a classic album and had some big singles did the dikk riding come.

In the NORE interview he talks about how Lyor told him to keep it gutter. Lyor went and got DMX and Jay Z. I can't pretend to know him but he has a track record and some flukes

I thought he told Nore to go make another song with Pharell,as if the other ones he did with Pharell wasn't trash:mjlol:

And he didn't find DMX or Jay-Z,still haven't been impressed yet by this thread.

How does Lyor get more respect than even sumbody like Irv?He's on the bottom of the food chain when it comes to "visionarys" in hiphop....For him to get the credit he does is a joke:mjlol:
 

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All Lyor's "successes" was brought to him by someone else.

Kanye West (Dame)
DMX, Jay-Z, Ja Rule (Irv Gotti)
Ludacris (Scarface)


Only know the 90's brehs and not know the history before then. I wish you people would research before saying shyt like this...
 

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Kanye had been trying to get on for about 8-9 years before CD, no one believed in him cause that soft shyt was not hot. Either you were dropping club bangers, hard shyt or lyrical shyt. Preferably a mix. Kanye got shytted on by plenty of smaller labels than Def Jam.
All Lyor's "successes" was brought to him by someone else.

Kanye West (Dame)
DMX, Jay-Z, Ja Rule (Irv Gotti)
Ludacris (Scarface)

Who said that he was a talent scout in the 90s? Lyor was on the "street level" in the 80s, he moved up in the 90s. People in the business are usually good at different things, from my impression Lyor specialized in structuring paths for artists to build themselves. All the big acts on Def Jam were somewhat independent but they had all the support they needed. He also focused on signing rappers with entrepreneurial skills, which is why signing 1 artist usually led to a bunch of other rappers.

And let's not act as if people were bidding for Kanye or Jay-z, at the end of the day he signed of .
 

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young gunz werent stars. got lucky w/ a big single. im sure they did overachieved what most expected ... even goin back and listening to the mixtapes before he dropped his debut, i dunno how u couldve passed on ye. but it was a different time.
 
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