So how did atheism become a trait of intellectual people?

[BmoreGorilla]

Im open minded when it comes to different religions but atheism isn't natural for black people. We are spiritual by nature. This planet is our planet. Black people don't have a true religion becuz theyre all our religions. Choose the path that makes you feel complete becuz we aren't here by chance. Atheism is cac shyt. They aren't in harmony with this planet and the evidence is right in front of us

 

[WaveMolecules]

They literally have a history of killing nonbelievers and pagans. And then folks like lamar like to spin it and play the victim when we address their doctrine.

Believer: I believe in God
Atheist: good for you. I don't believe in God.
Believer: HOW DARE YOU! SINNER! ETERNAL DAMNATION!

You are an atheist. The problem is this sense of solipsism from atheists who try and hijack science
for their own agenda.

Isaac Newton was a Christian, are we supposed to "logically" discredit the very laws of physics ?

We may have great logic faculties in our brains, but sometimes it seems that atheists try to push only
that upon everyone and in doing so forget that we are animals that still reside with the deep
rooted emotions of fear and survival instincts.

At a practical level, atheist dogma has no teeth except amongst academic reprobates who love
to engage in intellectual masturbation while sneering at the masses. It doesn't unify or inspire

Don't label me to satiate your ramblings. I don't have facts one way or the other. I don't know what to believe in.

Your dismissal of academia and intellectual "masturbation" is the reason why non-believers don't bother engaging you in discussion. You're stuck in a belief that was bestowed upon you. You were born agnostic

If you were born in Tibet you'd be a Buddhist. Nothing you believe can be discussed honestly because you will simply regurgitate talking points bestowed upon you by a priest, rabbi, etc.

And don't make me fukking laugh. Religion unites and inspires? Tell that to the 300 different sects of christianity, judaism and Islam. Go to Israel and see if religion unites. Go to a white hick town in Alabama, see if the racists who hide behind religion want unity.

 

[Dre Space Age]

I didn't get the memo. It seems that on the coli atheism = woke or intelligent. But that shyt really doesn't mean anything. And I'm not knocking those who don't believe in Christianity(which is fine as well) but people who believe in nothing. The their is no God set. Why is that regarded as wisdom or being intelligent? I don't believe in the Christian God or Muhammad etc..But I believe in intelligent design? Hell numerous people do, but I don't see people saying that makes us look smarter. I'm just asking.

pseudo-intellectualism is a plague these days

ever heard that saying 'you're so smart that you're stupid?'

 

[IVS]

I got you in your feelings by just what I wrote tho... I didn't even be disrespectful...

you are indoctrinated into believing a thing called god's plan... I'm sure god planned a crazy dude shooting a country music festival in vegas, or a car bomb in africa killing 300 people... let me guess they didn't believe in god's plan. Let me guess he called them home, let me guess they'll get into heaven because they was innocent... it's gods will tho right? human death and chaos is gods will, it's all apart of his plan right? See and this is why I'm agnostic...

Gotta be a dummy if u believe in a being who stood by and did nothing when slavery was happening. Especially if u believe in the bible and all the direct intervening that occured in the OT

Yeah like i wouldnt say believers are dumb people, but they believe and say some very dumb shyt.

 

[Cynic]

So we should dismiss Isaac Newton and the laws of physics because he's a Christian right ?

 

[WaveMolecules]

So we should dismiss Isaac Newton and the laws of physics because he's a Christian right ?

The irony of this post


Isaac Newton didn't invent physics, he theorized it's existence because he performed repeatable experiments and measured the results. And it became law because it has yet to be disproven. That's how science works. His delusions of a higher power are inconsequential to his scientific findings.

Why didn't he ever prove the existence of god?

Is it because he couldn't?


Can You?

Ignore my post but still come off as a bozo brehs

Typical conservative republican logic. "I dony care about youre logic because my daddy told me differently. He'd never lie to me "

This intellectual dishonesty is what republicans exploit and foster in their constituents.



Make religion great again

 

[SirReginald]

Im open minded when it comes to different religions but atheism isn't natural for black people. We are spiritual by nature. This planet is our planet. Black people don't have a true religion becuz theyre all our religions. Choose the path that makes you feel complete becuz we aren't here by chance. Atheism is cac shyt. They aren't in harmony with this planet and the evidence is right in front of us

I can kinda agree with this.


However, I'm just going to speak from my POV. Some of us don't even know who we are. I tried and tried to find faith (I'm Agnostic-Theist who questions a lot, but still believe in something). As of now, I felt it was best that I as a Black man take an absence from religion to find myself. That's what I think more of our people should do, then return. I will say if I would get involved with a religion I'd lean Judaism because I like the culture and laws of it. Also, I can get down with Ethiopian Orthodoxy in a way. Point is most of us can't find a path until we grow maturely and spiritually. I've learned that G-d doesn't talk to people the same way.


P.S. I think we need more interfaith dialogue in the Black community with Black Atheists, Agnostics, Jews, Muslims, and Christians. It would be extremely worthwhile because contrary to what the mainstream media portrays; we're not a monolith.

Just my opinion

 

[Marlostanfield.]

The irony of this post


Isaac Newton didn't invent physics, he theorized it's existence because he performed repeatable experiments and measured the results. And it became law because it has yet to be disproven. That's how science works. His delusions of a higher power are inconsequential to his scientific findings.

Why didn't he ever prove the existence of god?

Is it because he couldn't?


Can You?

Ignore my post but still come off as a bozo brehs

Typical conservative republican logic. "I dony care about youre logic because my daddy told me differently. He'd never lie to me "

This intellectual dishonesty is what republicans exploit and foster in their constituents.



Make religion great again

Can science prove that this world even exists ?

 

[Gonzo]

nah, it was just @napolean that associated intelligence with atheism (that fukking diagram he always put up...)

Study the history of science. You'll soon realize that god and science have been connected all throughout history.

God and science connected throughout history? Receipts please. And I'm an agnostic before it even goes there.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Can science prove that this world even exists ?

if science can't help you with that, nothing can kiddo.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

if science can't help you with that, nothing can kiddo.

Show me where science proved that this world is real.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Show me where science proved that this world is real.

if you want to have a philosophical discussion on existence (Cogito ergo sum) then I'm all for it but this vague prove "reality" question is silly.

If you mean, could this be a computer simulation a la matrix? Sure, could be. Anything is possible. Which is why I'm an agnostic who believe in science.

Agnostic because I don't pretend to know anything that can't be proven to be true or false.

But I believe in the observable measurable universe.

Until I have more information on either, it would be arrogant to believe anything else .

 

[Marlostanfield.]

if you want to have a philosophical discussion on existence (Cogito ergo sum) then I'm all for it but this vague prove "reality" question is silly.

If you mean, could this be a computer simulation a la matrix? Sure, could be. Anything is possible. Which is why I'm an agnostic who believe in science.

Agnostic because I don't pretend to know anything that can't be proven to be true or false.

But I believe in the observable measurable universe.

Until I have more information on either, it would be arrogant to believe anything else .

Here's the thing though, what you see is illusions, what you feel is illusions. Your eyes think the sky is blue.

The same house you're living in seems solid, but manipulate your house molecular structure and it can turn into gas. That couldn't happen if this world is real.

Now, onto the unseen, I guess that means you don't believe in intuition either.

 

[WaveMolecules]

Here's the thing though, what you see is illusions, what you feel is illusions. Your eyes think the sky is blue.

The same house you're living in seems solid, but manipulate your house molecular structure and it can turn into gas. That couldn't happen if this world is real.

Now, onto the unseen, I guess that means you don't believe in intuition either.

Yeah I agree. But we know they're illusions and we can break down why they're illusions.

And manipulation of the molecular structure of wood and cement can create different types of matter.... Seems abstract. Not sure what you're getting at but ok. That doesn't prove or disprove reality.

We've seen atoms get split, and the consequences that can have.

As for intuition, it's something that is unexplained. Our lack of understanding doesn't make it supernatural or mystic. There are plenty of human and earthly phenomena that are unexplained.

I couldn't begin to tell you how a cellphone works, but there are equations, facts, and scientific knowledge that people smarter than I were able to manipulate to create the cellphone.

The more we rely on science the greater our understanding of the world we can have.

 

[Marlostanfield.]

Yeah I agree. But we know they're illusions and we can break down why they're illusions.

And manipulation of the molecular structure of wood and cement can create different types of matter.... Seems abstract. Not sure what you're getting at but ok. That doesn't prove or disprove reality.

We've seen atoms get split, and the consequences that can have.

As for intuition, it's something that is unexplained. Our lack of understanding doesn't make it supernatural or mystic. There are plenty of human and earthly phenomena that are unexplained.

I couldn't begin to tell you how a cellphone works, but there are equations, facts, and scientific knowledge that people smarter than I were able to manipulate to create the cellphone.

The more we rely on science the greater our understanding of the world we can have.

What I'm trying to get you to understand is that if something is real it cannot be manipulated. Your mind can be manipulated to believe something that isn't even real. Your mind is stupid it only knows what you give it. If the human mind is smart and real, explain why its so many dumb people in the world, they have a mind just like you do.

Here's another thing when you eat bullshyt food, your sense of smell becomes bad. So how smart is your senses? If it was real it shouldn't be affected.

But you wanna know how this world isn't real, when you lay down and go to sleep, this world ceases to exist right ? You have no recollection of it anymore.

Intuition is knowing something without having to think, you just know. Your intuition is the good angel and your mind is the bad angel. We all have had moments when something tells us not to do it but then our mind gets to working and than start rationalizing and you do it and then you fukk up and now you mad because something told you not to do it and that was your intuition, it knows all.

Science is limited, it's only until one goes beyond this world that they see the truth.