So how did atheism become a trait of intellectual people?

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What I'm trying to get you to understand is that if something is real it cannot be manipulated. Your mind can be manipulated to believe something that isn't even real. Your mind is stupid it only knows what you give it. If the human mind is smart and real, explain why its so many dumb people in the world, they have a mind just like you do.

Here's another thing when you eat bullshyt food, your sense of smell becomes bad. So how smart is your senses? If it was real it shouldn't be affected.

But you wanna know how this world isn't real, when you lay down and go to sleep, this world ceases to exist right ? You have no recollection of it anymore.

Intuition is knowing something without having to think, you just know. Your intuition is the good angel and your mind is the bad angel. We all have had moments when something tells us not to do it but then our mind gets to working and than start rationalizing and you do it and then you fukk up and now you mad because something told you not to do it and that was your intuition, it knows all.

Science is limited, it's only until one goes beyond this world that they see the truth.

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If you say so breh.

You're gonna believe what you believe regardless of what I say.


:yeshrug:

I can't disprove faith, fairy, and angels. All due respect.
 

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If you say so breh.

You're gonna believe what you believe regardless of what I say.


:yeshrug:

I can't disprove faith, fairy, and angels. All due respect.

Quran, bible, etc are nothing but metaphors and allegory of telling a story to see a great truth. They're not meant to be taken literally.
 

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Quran, bible, etc are nothing but metaphors and allegory of telling a story to see a great truth. They're not meant to be taken literally.

Everyone has an interpretation. Even believers. Some take the book to be literal. Some like you are obviously more abstract.

Bottom line I suppose is I choose not to depend on faith and hope for happiness and peace of mind.

To those that do, I'm happy for you and I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong and God exists. We will never know who was right though while we are breathing. :yeshrug:
 

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Everyone has an interpretation. Even believers. Some take the book to be literal. Some like you are obviously more abstract.

Bottom line I suppose is I choose not to depend on faith and hope for happiness and peace of mind.

To those that do, I'm happy for you and I hope you're right. I hope I'm wrong and God exists. We will never know who was right though while we are breathing. :yeshrug:

There are people who know while they are breathing, to come face to face with God is to give up the world, give up all attachments and subdue the human ego (mind) and you will see that God is the only reality and me and you are nothing but illusions and that we don't exist.
 

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OP your question is backwards.

They are atheist *because* they are intellectual. You don't have to believe in Science. Why does God require belief?
 

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There are people who know while they are breathing, to come face to face with God is to give up the world, give up all attachments and subdue the human ego (mind) and you will see that God is the only reality and me and you are nothing but illusions and that we don't exist.

Prove it. Tangibly.
 

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I think the true mark of intellect that can be, and should be, hoisted onto a pedestal is when they person can go against the status quo, or at the very least, form his/her own educated opinion that may fall in line with the status quo without being condescending to opposing views during debate and dialogue.

Very intelligent people can and are believers in some type of Creator and very intelligent people can be and are off the thought that there is no such creator(s).

But any and all of those above mentioned groups have people who are straight up condescending a$$holes who's only purpose seems to be to make the opposing perspectives look foolish and uneducated in order to appear superior.

Intellect is being able to have those views on sensitive topics and being able to actually have a discussion about it where all parties can walk away from the convo feeling that they weren't intentionally disrespected.:manny:
 

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His delusions of a higher power are inconsequential to his scientific findings.


Why not ? According to you all believers are bereft of logic/rational so it follows his findings should be dis-guarded as well
given the source right ? I mean those "delusions" and laws stem from the same place ...

Make fun of Isaac Newton brehs :pachaha:

Make fun of the guy who made The Big Bang Theory possible brehs :pachaha:


Stan for a counter-movement that wouldn't exist without religion brehs :pachaha:


I'm a moderate believer but atheists are a precariously funny bunch. On one hand
your very belief hinges on what you despise. Without the concept of God stemming
from religion ...what would you believe in ? or not believe in ?
 

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Prove it. Tangibly.

Ever had a dream that seemed so real then you wake up and realize it was all in your head, that's how this world is.

When you're dreaming the real you is laying there peacefully, just a witness, you're not experiencing anything your mind is projecting, it's only until you get attached to the dream you experience pleasure and pain. Its the same while you're awake, your soul the real you is just a mere witness to what's going on.

Eve was tempted by the snake to bite from the tree of good and evil, which is a metaphor for the 7 chakras in your body that is feminine energy and while the serpent represents the energy being coiled like a snake or its rising through body and the tree represents duality, instead of seeing oneness, you see multiplicity. When your energy is dormant (coiled) its very worldy minded and lives off instincts (human nature) your consciousness can't see the truth all it knows is surivival, sex, hunger, desires, etc

Its like what Jesus said "until one hates his own mother, father, children, even his own life he can't follow me" Its only until you grow a strong hatred to the world do you seek to be free and being free is not desiring the fruits of the world. You have to give this world up to see God. Your soul can't escape until it becomes light, the more attachments to the world, the heavier it becomes.
 

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Its a matter of what people empirically observe to determine what is true. People will likely focus on facts as opposed to faith and as such, you have the presumption of one being an intellectual because of it :manny:.
I didn't get the memo. It seems that on the coli atheism = woke or intelligent. But that shyt really doesn't mean anything. And I'm not knocking those who don't believe in Christianity(which is fine as well) but people who believe in nothing. The their is no God set. Why is that regarded as wisdom or being intelligent? I don't believe in the Christian God or Muhammad etc..But I believe in intelligent design? Hell numerous people do, but I don't see people saying that makes us look smarter. I'm just asking.

Its not, only pretentious people think that :mjlol:

I agree in a sense but why? like What does believing in God have to do with actual intellect? It's a big thing on the coli. And it really confuses me.
 

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Why not ? According to you all believers are bereft of logic/rational so it follows his findings should be dis-guarded as well
given the source right ? I mean those "delusions" and laws stem from the same place ...

Make fun of Isaac Newton brehs :pachaha:

Make fun of the guy who made The Big Bang Theory possible brehs :pachaha:


Stan for a counter-movement that wouldn't exist without religion brehs :pachaha:


I'm a moderate believer but atheists are a precariously funny bunch. On one hand
your very belief hinges on what you despise. Without the concept of God stemming
from religion ...what would you believe in ? or not believe in ?

Only you can be daft enough to assume that being delusional in religious matters means any and all accomplishments must be trash.

I already said many times I am not an atheist.

The human being has been hampered by religion for millennia. Quite literally it is anti-intellecutal.

But you know this. Troll.

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Sorry breh. You're rambling.
 

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Only you can be daft enough to assume that being delusional in religious matters means any and all accomplishments must be trash.

I already said many times I am not an atheist.

The human being has been hampered by religion for millennia. Quite literally it is anti-intellecutal.

But you know this. Troll.



Sorry breh. You're rambling.

I'm not doing this get you to learn, your ego too big for it, but others see this and get truth.

In ancient Egypt they have a story for people like you called "the destruction of humankind"

The story represents humans and their ego. Humans could live for thousands of years and has powers like Ra, and they said why worship Ra we're just like him, and seeked to kill Ra. Ra made a change to that now humans die fairly young now and other changes.

The story represents how the ego (mind) kills anything Godly (soul). Your ego doesn't want truth about the soul because once the soul takes over the ego power is gone. And that's the story of Asar and set and heru.
 

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I'm not doing this get you to learn, your ego too big for it, but others see this and get truth.

In ancient Egypt they have a story for people like you called "the destruction of humankind"


The story represents humans and their ego. Humans could live for thousands of years and has powers like Ra, and they said why worship Ra we're just like him, and seeked to kill Ra. Ra made a change to that now humans die fairly young now and other changes.

The story represents how the ego (mind) kills anything Godly (soul). Your ego doesn't want truth about the soul because once the soul takes over the ego power is gone. And that's the story of Asar and set and heru.

Your arrogance is astounding.

I thought we could have a positive discussion on religion, but no. Like all other extremists there is only one path.

I leave open the possibility that God doesn't exist.

You are the blind one my friend.

Religion is a man made concept.


A free thinker isn't a person who attaches themselves to a book written 2000 years ago and believe it blindly.

It takes courage to say, "hey maybe the stuff we've believed for the last 2000 isnt neccesarily the truth."

Keep your tall tales and fairy tales. They'll keep you warm at night.
 

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Your arrogance is astounding.

I thought we could have a positive discussion on religion, but no. Like all other extremists there is only one path.

I leave open the possibility that God doesn't exist.

You are the blind one my friend.

Religion is a man made concept.


A free thinker isn't a person who attaches themselves to a book written 2000 years ago and believe it blindly.

It takes courage to say, "hey maybe the stuff we've believed for the last 2000 isnt neccesarily the truth."

Keep your tall tales and fairy tales. They'll keep you warm at night.

No, you don't fool me buddy you're still a child and what do children do? You tell a child to go left, he goes right, why so they feel like have a sense of importance and to do what they want, a lot of children don't want authority or to be told what to do, and don't believe in karma because that means there is consequences for ones action so they say it don't exist so they can live freely.

Your opinion of free thinking is wrong because I'm a free thinker because I have no attachments which allows me to see freely and think freely. You're just a child who is using that to make ones ego feel bigger by not following status quo, your ego makes you think youre special or different when you're still slave minded like the other idiots.

What you're doing doesn't take courage, it takes courage to actually live a Godly life, and that's the metaphor for Jesus. You don't want to be crucified by the world and shun by it that takes courage.

You're not the only person who doesn't believe in God, majority of the world doesn't.
 
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