So no thread about Nikki Bella ruining the Divas' Division?

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No..Lita was a sidekick for Essa Rios at first and she became more popular than him. AJ was playing a psycho during the Punk/Bryan feud and they were cheering her pushing wannabe Steve Austin 2.0, CM Punk, through a table and Raw ended to her doing YES chants over his prone body. That would NEVER EVER happen in 2000 or 2001 with Lita or Trish doing that to Rock or Steve Austin. No fukking chance in hell..not to mention AJ was making a difference on ratings and that's why she got all that time and that big push. Something the Bellas have never been able to do with the time invested into them..add more viewers...they aren't seen in that light of intriguement.

Trish came up as a heel not giving the fans what they wanted she would cover up and now show her body. That's how she got over. Punk went over the entire roster..whatever competition you're thinking of never existed.
 

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I never thought Paige was the best worker, but I did like her, but I have a feeling they are pushing her to be AJ Lee 2.0 and she's going to be so:scust:.

I have nothing much to add because I agree, OP, but I like the fact on TSC that it's majority male, but ya'll understand the importance of every division including the Women's/Diva's Division.:ehh:
There was a time where I was more interested in the women wrestling than some mens' matches back in the Attitude Era and Ruthless Aggression Era. Even some of their feuds were more interesting.
I know that Naomi not having the championship isn't going to change anything, but it would be nice to see a Black champion for once. The last one we had was Alicia Fox and how long ago was that? :upsetfavre:
Alicia Fox was a trash champion. At the near bottom of wwe talent.
 

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How do you know what potential Naomi has if you don't give her a chance in the first place? Naomi could push merchandise and have crossover appeal if they invest in her like The Bellas, Paige, AJ, etc. Here's the fact: They just don't WANT to do it. There's a reason why she wins non-championship matches, but when it comes to the championship matches, she loses. This is on purpose.

Let's not sit here and act like race don't play a factor. It's not Naomi's fault.

Exactly. Naomi won't have that crossover appeal bc she's black.

Even tho personally I don't think it should matter for the divas title.
 

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Naomi was looking REAL GOOD in that black and light blue yesterday

She also got legit boos and heat throughout the match.

"I don't like you because you're a bytch" heat too, not "go away bella twins" heat.

She's so dope :noah:
:laff: at HHH not putting proper grammar over

Is I'm fukking going over? :smugTrips:
 
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No..Lita was a sidekick for Essa Rios at first and she became more popular than him. AJ was playing a psycho during the Punk/Bryan feud and they were cheering her pushing wannabe Steve Austin 2.0, CM Punk, through a table and Raw ended to her doing YES chants over his prone body. That would NEVER EVER happen in 2000 or 2001 with Lita or Trish doing that to Rock or Steve Austin. No fukking chance in hell..not to mention AJ was making a difference on ratings and that's why she got all that time and that big push. Something the Bellas have never been able to do with the time invested into them..add more viewers...they aren't seen in that light of intriguement.

No diva in the last 5 year's brought in many viewers.. That's why the divas division is the way it is and has been this way for almost a decade.
 

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Nikki Bella's not the problem here.

She's a top 3 worker in the company right now with I'd argue the best finisher in the division by far.

She's got a great Alabama Slam, a great elbow, and some other great power moves.

The problem is in her character.

Now, if they'd ever do right by Natalya and give her some shine, her and Nikki could have some classic matches.


Nikki is the best worker on the main roster right now though, just like AJ was when she had her long reign. Paige has been exposed as all the people she did good work with in NXT are even better while even her matches with AJ were sloppy let downs. Naomi still routinely makes several mistakes in any long match she has, Tamina is terrible, Brie is terrible. Nikki has been the common denominator in every good Divas match for the last year or so.

She really doesn't get enough credit on this site for how much she's stepped her game up. She is a genuinely good worker now and head and shoulders above her peers. When the NXT girls make it to the main roster, Nikki is the only current Diva who will be able to work at that level.

I won't say best, because I think Natalya and Paige are the best just due to the sheer amount of experience both have from wrestling from the womb, practically, but she's directly after them, and I don't see why people have a hard time giving her props for her marked improvement the past year or so. She's gone from trash in 2013, to one of the best female workers in the company. The match she had with Paige tonight was dope.

The main problem is that she's a natural heel and the WWE is always trying to make people cheer the Bellas when people want to boo them.


How do you know what potential Naomi has if you don't give her a chance in the first place? Naomi could push merchandise and have crossover appeal if they invest in her like The Bellas, Paige, AJ, etc. Here's the fact: They just don't WANT to do it. There's a reason why she wins non-championship matches, but when it comes to the championship matches, she loses. This is on purpose.

Let's not sit here and act like race don't play a factor. It's not Naomi's fault.

EXACTLY.

I've seen Naomi posted on a ton of Hip-Hop blogs and sites that had nothing to do with wrestling and the WWE has absolutely no interest in capitalizing on it.

I mean, in a Real Housewives of Atlanta/Love & Hip-Hop/Beyonce/Rihanna world where Black women are everywhere in pop culture and there's a Black woman in the White house, the idea that Black women can't crossover is absurd.

Why aint she and Jimmy Uso at the BET Awards?

Why not have her interact with Snoop or Wiz Khalifa and the 140 million rappers they have guest star on raw?

I mean, Hip-Hop is mainstream and she's the perfect person (until Sasha Banks comes up) to be WWE's crossover until Urban/Hip-Hop/mainstream culture.

Alicia Fox was a trash champion. At the near bottom of wwe talent.

Alicia Fox is much better than she used to be as well and is a much better athlete than people give her credit for

:blessed:Dat Northern Lights
 

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...you guys do realize that aj lees reign is 295 days right. And her combined reigns are 406 days. Nikki's only held it for 192 days and her combined reigns are 198
 

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No diva in the last 5 year's brought in many viewers.. That's why the divas division is the way it is and has been this way for almost a decade.

Except when AJ brought in 700k a week to end Raw shows in 2012..u think she got pushed that hard out of the fukking blue

Karma had high rated segments too..
 
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shyt, get rid of the divas shyt altogether. that shyt is concession stand/bathroom break material.
i think i know why its trash, its because they call it "Diva Division" meaning they separate it like their not even in the same league

you dont hear them saying "Intercontinental title division" or "US title division"

call them women more often, let them be involved in more "relationship based storylines" no one gives a fukk about Naomi turning "ghetto" and just wanting to beat the Bellas. They did it right last year when Brie was defending Daniel Bryan and they had a hyped Summerslam match.
 
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