So...someone just shot the Russian ambassador to Turkey...

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Gavrilo Princip

 

[African Peasant]

Special operation unit ? Gulen network ?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Turkey been giving the world so much entertainment this year

 

[African Peasant]

Are the rebels and their families still stuck in East Aleppo ?

 

[FAH1223]

This event is going to weaken Erdogan even more, when he is already weak at the national level. A weaker Erdogan can be taken out easily and replaced by more anti-russians authorities. And Lord knows the anti-russian feeling is prevalent in Turkey.

Putin already have a weak Erdogan; a weaker Erdogan is not in Putin's interest.

Also, this assassination may put Putin in a weird situation back home : he already let the l-killing of the pilot go, now this. It will be hard for him to justify the reinforcement of his ties with Turkey when Turkey is humiliating Russia by killing its soldiers and officials.

Money talks. Both countries being isolated from each other serves no economic benefit.
The Russians are a major trade partner and the sanctions devastated large sectors of the Turkish economy. Turkey depends on Iranian and Russian oil and gas for energy. It gets cheap oil and gas from them and they cannot afford Qatari or American LNG imports.

If they cut off the gas, the Turkish economy goes straight to hell.

Putin basically understands this even though Russian views of Turkey have become negative. Russia removed the sanctions, and pumping money into Turkey to keep it afloat. China and Russia hardly do anything major alone anymore, there are large Chinese funds available for Turkey. They want to keep Turkey alive for the future. If they can wean the Turkish economy off the hot money, supply them with cheap oil, build the nuclear plants as agreed. Then Turkey might in the future be strong enough to leave its master and become an independent country and be part of that New Silk Road project.

Are the rebels and their families still stuck in East Aleppo ?

A lot of buses have been taking them to Idlib today after the terrorist attack on buses yesterday. There are also Shia villages being evacuated in parallel with this evacuation.

 

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[African Peasant]

Money talks. Both countries being isolated from each other serves no economic benefit.
The Russians are a major trade partner and the sanctions devastated large sectors of the economy. Turkey depends on Iranian and Russian oil and gas for energy. It gets cheap oil and gas from them and they cannot afford Qatari or American LNG imports.

If they cut off the gas, the Turkish economy goes straight to hell.

Putin basically understands this even though Russian views of Turkey have become negative. Russia removed the sanctions, and pumping money into Turkey to keep it afloat. China and Russia hardly do anything major alone anymore, there are large Chinese funds available for Turkey. They want to keep Turkey alive for the future. If they can wean the Turkish economy off the hot money, supply them with cheap oil, build the nuclear plants as agreed. Then Turkey might in the future be strong enough to leave its master and become an independent country and be part of that New Silk Road project.



A lot of buses have been taking them to Idlib today after the terrorist attack on buses yesterday. There are also Shia villages being evacuated in parallel with this evacuation.

The rapprochement between Russia and Turkey is mainly a move by Erdogan. He's basically on his own with that one. Turkey is a very divided country. Don't underestimate the will of some people within the turkish power to take out Erdogan and the hate many Turks have for Russia.

The reconciliation between the two countries is not seen as a good thing by everybody in Turkey. Russia is destroying a Sunni muslim take over in Syria. Some people are very mad about it. Even in the AKP, some people don't like the fact that Erdogan is now "buddy" with Russia.

 

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[Akata Man Bromo]

Can someone tell me what this means?

 

[FAH1223]

The rapprochement between Russia and Turkey is mainly a move by Erdogan. He's basically on his own with that one. Turkey is a very divided country. Don't underestimate the will of some people within the turkish power to take out Erdogan and the hate many Turks have for Russia.

The reconciliation between the two countries is not seen as a good thing by everybody in Turkey. Russia is destroying a Sunni muslim take over in Syria. Some people are very mad about it. Even in the AKP, some people don't like the fact that Erdogan is now "buddy" with Russia.

I agree with you about Erdogan. He has had to play different hats. He also has resistance facing him. At the same time the sanctions hurt Turkey a lot and he can't have a rotting economy on his hands. He doesn't want the AK party to lose seats and for his office to become weaker.

He's playing the long game to get Turkey into a better economic position. He should have done this a long time ago instead of pushing the EU thing.

Syria has sectarian issues to the war. But remember the Syrian army is mostly Sunni foot soldiers and there are Sunni pro govt militias fighting with the Shia militias. The Christians are staunchly with Assad.

The war is more so Sunnis from the country side who are poorer class against the power structure of the regime which is supported by the Sunni middle upper class of Aleppo and Damascus. And then you have Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups in there who are the best fighting forces.

 

[FAH1223]

Can someone tell me what this means?

Don't worry. No WW3.

Also

 

[Trece]

Got damn Drudgereport got a graphic ass pic up on the front page..

They are about to take that down

 

[BaggerofTea]

Don't worry. No WW3.

Also

they know the game

 

[FAH1223]