So what exactly is that whole "I never heard him get played in the hood" arguement supposed to mean?

[newarkhiphop]

what hood do you live in that they've never played Jay or Nas, and how old are you

 

[360dagod]

i've yet to hear a kendrick song besides kill my vibe get bumped

For the acclaim he gets, its weird..

 

[AMcV'88]

@The Ruler 09 is from fukking scotland and is trying to tell people that k-rino gets play in hoods in the U.S.

anyone else find this funny, coming from a cac vulture who hasn't step foot outside Scotland, let alone North American soil?

Woat, I tell ya...

whoa whoa whoa...wait a minute here.
i'd like to think @The Ruler 09 isn't from the same homeland as my granny, my nonna, my abuela.

i've been there and i'm pretty sure nobody from there would go to the trouble of defending K-Rino with such zest and vigor as ruler does all the while about being so vague about where they are from.

he's more likely to be from somewhere random like Gibraltar but my best bet is that he's way down in Australia or New Zealand.

 

[Wild self]

This is a garbage argument used by close minded people who often fall into group thinking and are either afraid to or don't know how to actually express and formulate their own tastes/opinions.

"I never heard such and such in the hood, blasting out of a whip, in the club"

Meanwhile the people they champion as being more relevent have no careers just hype from people who don't buy records

Yeah, "the streets" is another way for positive black music not to ever get play again by certain circles. Why else Public Enemy is not mentioned as all time greats in many publications?

 

[onelastdeath]

what hood do you live in that they've never played Jay or Nas, and how old are you

Orange Country

 

[SirBiatch]

I don't think it's that, and your ignorance/privilege is showing heavy right now.

Believe or not, that connection matters. Especially when you're someone who's from those things. The hood has a different ear than the GP does. If the hood loves it, there's a good chance that the GP will too. But because the GP loves it, doesn't mean the hood will feel it, which is why artists feed the streets/hood first.

Futures second run, or first depending on how you see it, went through the hood first. He tried the pop thing, but in the end went back to where it starts. Streets and it's paid off.

But this is thecoli. So cook.

I see your point breh, and I think this used to be the case. But it isn't anymore. The hood doesn't control the culture anymore. and in a way, it's debatable if they ever did.

Let's be real here: the people who made rap classics (Rakim, Prodigy, Nas, etc) and built the industry to what it is today were not your typical dude in the hood. Not by a long shot. You had a lot of college-educated Blacks and Hispanics who were A&Rs, working with educated White label heads, finding rappers that were by-and-large more educated than the typical hood dude to get them play on college radio.

It's not really about 'what's hood' but more about what's street. Inner-city. Which includes the hood, the working class and some of the middle class.

the hood doesnt determine whats hot anymore, the internet nerds do now

if you nikkas want that to change then tell the hood to support their artists and stop holding their hands out waiting for free datpiff tapes

thats way easier said than done though. but its not impossible. the mindset of the "hood" in terms of supporting their artists needs to be quarantined

real talk.

and frankly, the hood today (and over the last decade) has shyttier hip hop taste than a lot of fukkboy hipsters. if the hood's major contribution to rap over the last 5 years is Future, then they need to call it quits.

"The Hood" does not mean the slums where the goons at...& it also doesnt mean it has to be music FOR goons in the slums...

....like for example when people say Future got the STREETS... they mean.. wherever you go, the music is ringing off.. the morning commute, the gas station, the highway, the functions, everyones aux cord.. you can see the music resonating organically with the people so three #1 albums in 7 months isn't a surprise, whether you're a fan or not... you could FEEL the buzz... alot of great artists have been able to grab the masses in that fashion... alot of artists have also flourished without necessarily getting their product poppin thru that route.. its different markets for different music... some dudes gotta fly across the pond to the UK to eat cause their albums are weed plates in the US... but dont try to dismiss the impact, importance and advantage of having the streets behind you...

exactly. nikkas constantly get the hood and the streets confused.

I remember brehs from around my way under no circumstances would not fukk with Wu's music. It was corny to them for some reason. No Limit and later on Juvenile and Hot Boys, nikkaz loved that music though which was perplexing to me. When Atliens was hot, the Elevators joint, etc., there were quite a few hood brehs that did not rock to any of that. In fact, what I remember distinctly was dudes into C-Bo, and later on Brotha Lynch, E-40 and the other Bay artists one would hear on what seemed like to me an absurd amount of compilations from that area. I think Percy Miller had a lot to do with that.

Music is a complex thing to me though. Nas might be one of the most respected, iconic emcees because he's Nas, and hood nikkaz will acknowledge him. Is his music on their rotation though? Not really. UGK on the other hand? Cats can recite Pimp C verses backwards. Dayton Family? Ear orgasm to those same dudes. I think folks on here understimate the demand for hood music. Not everyone in the US wants to decipher bars, often enough they want to feel good for the same reason intellectually challenged Michael Bay movies make a ton of dough and the Coen brehs last film tanked. I remember being in my Corolla with friends listening to Roots' Concerto of the Desperado which being fresh out of high school at the time was phenomenal to me. My friends didnt want to hear that sh!t though, it was boring to them. Chopper City on the other hand was the second coming of Christ. Thankfully Bow Down was neutral enough for both my ears and my friends from back then. Good times but the differences in taste during those years was just the beginning of regional tastes and differences.

Not gonna listen to what people on here think about the hood fux with especially when most on here are 6 months behind on what's popping musically anyway

exactly.

Breh, I've been in hoods and lived with hood dudes. Reformed goons. A lot of them have the weakest taste in this rap shyt.

Never forget: water seeks its own level.

By the way, someone tell that condescending fraud @The Ruler 09 to shut the fukk up. He actually thinks he's better than you (whether White or Black) because he bumps K-Rino, and will frequently say to a Black person that he/she doesn't live hip hop culture or know hip hop because they don't check for K-Rino.
How has this undercover racist not been banned yet?
Oh that's right, because the Coli is about fukkery and hypocrisy first and foremost, from the posters to the mods.

 

[NvrCMyNut]

This shouldn't need explaining, Hiphop comes from the hood, Hiphop is the one artform where the hood has a voice (although you thots, cacs, & suburban nikkas been trying to take that away from us to accommodate yourselves ). If you're not relevant in the hood your not relevant in the culture. If you're not speaking for or to the hood your not Hiphop, period.

 

[AMcV'88]

You are a fraud who doesn't know what they are talking about. You said artists don't care about being played in the hood and I can literally show you quotes or documentation to show that a number of greats do. You don't even understand the concept properly because you are such an outsider and merely a hipster hoe.

You try to fit in so much and it is absolutely cringeworthy. But you are fickle, fraudulent and disrespectful to Hip Hop and the culture.

I have seen you say a lot of suspect ish racially too, you think because you'd get gangbanged by Dipset or take Asap Rocky's dikk down you're trashy shameless hoe ass throat that makes you Hip Hop, it doesn't. It makes you a groupie and a trendhopper. You have no conception about the culture, not even on a basic level. You are so brainwashed by your white privilege, underlined preduice and desperation to fit in and be accepted you don't even understand what you are.

To have a white girl from suburbia diss Hip Hop legends and veterans is highly disrespectful and stepping out of line. It shows you are trend hopper and you listen to shyt because it's trendy not because you have a genuine love and respect for artists within the culture as human beings or the moral codes and practises of the culture.

I give everybody a pass initially as there are white people and even white ladies that do know Hip Hop truly and live the culture but unfortunately you get complete despicable frauds like you. You self exposed yourself over time with your fickleness, hypocrisy and disrespect. That's why I don't respect you or anything you have to say on Hip Hop or anything else because you've proved you're not a person of knowledge, integrity or understanding. You won't care about this because you are trash and that's fine, but anybody real can see what you are in truth.

Yes you are certainly a classless hoe. It's the way you conduct yourself in general and that's why no real man would ever be proud to be with you. And weren't you an escort and drug addict too?

Everything I said is filled with substance, however you are far too ignorant to comprehend it so we are talking at completely cross purposes due to that. Aren't you from a line of racists also? Also you are arrogant and ignorant, what gives you the right to call people "typical nikkas?"

You don't have to say anything, you have proved by your words and actions what you are. Again shows you're hypocrisy though, as I'm not accusing you of shyt, I'm stating an actual fact. You were the 1 who resorted to name calling and lies, and the initial disrespect in the first place.

Again as you don't know me at all and I don't put my buisness out on here you are merely making shyt up. In actuality I am Hip Hop and live the culture 24/7. You don't even know what the culture is....

You've proved countless times you have no clue what you're talking about, you're an utter embarrassment, and the worst part is you don't even see it. But in time karma will show you a lot of things.... You're a cac (in the proper use of the term) lowlife hoe who has the audacity to shyt on legends in Hip Hop who are pioneers and put in work for over 30 years. What have you done apart from suck dikk in a desperate attempt for acceptance? To open your mouth disrespecting legendary Hip Hop artists being you shows your utter lack of respect and contempt for the people within the culture. You're dikkrider, in many senses. And the fact you don't have knowledge of legends in itself even further exposed what a fraud you are. Because DJ Premier, Scarface, Bun B, T-La Rock, Bun B, Killer Mike, Canibus, Trae Tha Truth, Z-Ro and many many others all regard K-Rino as legend. But no a cac hoe with a suspect history on race is gonna try ridicule him?... This isn't about music taste, it's about respect for people who are regarded as legends in Hip Hop and have put their work in for decades that a disgraceful dikkriding whore trying to disrespect. That ain't right, and I didn't even intend to bring these things up with you really as was happy to ignore you but the arrogance, egotism, cockiness and disrespect there should be a rebuttal to. Talking of KRS there's a thread on his song The Racist, some of that certainly applies to you, will have to tag you in that later to elaborate....

good lord.

does K-Rino happen to have a song called Stockholm System ?
this young scholar has been brainwashed my K-Rino's music.

and at how often @biscuitsnbangers wanting to fukk A$AP Rocky gets brought up...strange.

 

[onelastdeath]

I see your point breh, and I think this used to be the case. But it isn't anymore. The hood doesn't control the culture anymore. and in a way, it's debatable if they ever did.

Let's be real here: the people who made rap classics (Rakim, Prodigy, Nas, etc) and built the industry to what it is today were not your typical dude in the hood. Not by a long shot. You had a lot of college-educated Blacks and Hispanics who were A&Rs, working with educated White label heads, finding rappers that were by-and-large more educated than the typical hood dude to get them play on college radio.

It's not really about 'what's hood' but more about what's street. Inner-city. Which includes the hood, the working class and some of the middle class

Well that's you feeding into the stereotype. Look at what you said, "Nas, Prodify, Rakim etc weren't your typical dude in the hood" and I'd argue that they were. There are plenty of intellectuals living in the hood. Plenty of great writers, producers, poets. Scholars. I've lived in Hoods all over my city, and the views we have on it are different because you're not from it. Truth is, the only things that separate Nas' Rakim's etc, is the vision not just the talent. But perseverance. The will. It has nothing to do with how educated they are, because Nas made illmatic as a Jr high school drop out. So to the naked eye, had he not made it, he'd be a "typical hood dude" which is what? A slanging, drop out who's never going to be anything. But we know him now as the legend because he did what he was capable of doing. There are plenty of high level creatives in the hood, there's just so much to balance that most people never reach their potential. I've met smarter people, more cultured, more worldly people in my old hoods than I've met in great neighborhoods.

Also, we don't consider the streets to include the working class, or middle class. When we say streets, we mean the hood. Poverty. Low income. Welfare. Section 8. Food Stamps etc. That's some new shyt that people try to push that the "streets" just mean the city. I know plenty of plenty in my city of all races who at the thought of some neighborhoods, because they're too hood. I think Hip Hop is at a point where there are so many people chiming in who are uninformed, and these opinions are respected even though they aren't backed by much fact.

Like you, your from The UK and hear you are giving your scope on what you think About a black American lifestyle/culture. Just your perspective. Which isn't much because you're not from here.

Same with @biscuitsnbangers, great Hip Hop fan. supporter of blacks, from what I've seen. But still giving her perspective on things she could never really understand. Like you can't even tap into the vibe of an American Slum if you've never lived in one and amongst the people, but people do, and it's been Hip Hops biggest problem as of late.

Social Media has given so many people a platform, pretending that they know what they're talking about. And some of you guys are so well spoken, and write so well (like you) that people actually think you know what you're talking about and that's one of the cons of Hip Hop going global. Too many opinions about things that people know nothing about.

And as someone who grew up in this shyt. Literally. As in my parents put me on to Hip Hop. Because my parents were children of Hip Hop. It's a little sad to me. Watching all this shyt get erased and disrespected the way it has.

 

[CHICAGOrilla]

What type of cac question is this?

 

[NotaPAWG]

Well that's you feeding into the stereotype. Look at what you said, "Nas, Prodify, Rakim etc weren't your typical dude in the hood" and I'd argue that they were. There are plenty of intellectuals living in the hood. Plenty of great writers, producers, poets. Scholars. I've lived in Hoods all over my city, and the views we have on it are different because you're not from it. Truth is, the only things that separate Nas' Rakim's etc, is the vision not just the talent. But perseverance. The will. It has nothing to do with how educated they are, because Nas made illmatic as a Jr high school drop out. So to the naked eye, had he not made it, he'd be a "typical hood dude" which is what? A slanging, drop out who's never going to be anything. But we know him now as the legend because he did what he was capable of doing. There are plenty of high level creatives in the hood, there's just so much to balance that most people never reach their potential. I've met smarter people, more cultured, more worldly people in my old hoods than I've met in great neighborhoods.

Also, we don't consider the streets to include the working class, or middle class. When we say streets, we mean the hood. Poverty. Low income. Welfare. Section 8. Food Stamps etc. That's some new shyt that people try to push that the "streets" just mean the city. I know plenty of plenty in my city of all races who at the thought of some neighborhoods, because they're too hood. I think Hip Hop is at a point where there are so many people chiming in who are uninformed, and these opinions are respected even though they aren't backed by much fact.

Like you, your from The UK and hear you are giving your scope on what you think About a black American lifestyle/culture. Just your perspective. Which isn't much because you're not from here.

Same with @biscuitsnbangers, great Hip Hop fan. supporter of blacks, from what I've seen. But still giving her perspective on things she could never really understand. Like you can't even tap into the vibe of an American Slum if you've never lived in one and amongst the people, but people do, and it's been Hip Hops biggest problem as of late.

Social Media has given so many people a platform, pretending that they know what they're talking about. And some of you guys are so well spoken, and write so well (like you) that people actually think you know what you're talking about and that's one of the cons of Hip Hop going global. Too many opinions about things that people know nothing about.

And as someone who grew up in this shyt. Literally. As in my parents put me on to Hip Hop. Because my parents were children of Hip Hop. It's a little sad to me. Watching all this shyt get erased and disrespected the way it has.

Good post. I appreciate the constructive criticism and points you bring to the table. I think at times I let my love for hip hop coupled with my white privilege blind me from the fact that even though I love it that I will never be able to truly see it or understand it from the perspective and place that it was born.

 

[SirBiatch]

Well that's you feeding into the stereotype.

Look at what you said, "Nas, Prodify, Rakim etc weren't your typical dude in the hood" and I'd argue that they were. There are plenty of intellectuals living in the hood. Plenty of great writers, producers, poets. I've lived in Hoods all over my city, and the views we have on it are different because you're not from it.

Plenty is an overstatement. But yes, some intellectuals live in the hood.

Truth is, the only things that separate Nas' Rakim's etc, is the vision. It has nothing to do with how educated they are, because Nas made illmatic as a Jr high school drop out.

Nas's father is a playwright and comes from a whole family of playwrights. Wasn't Nas's mom a university graduate or some shyt? in a house full of books?

That's not the typical hood story. Let's be real here. Nas is a hood dude, but he's not the typical hood dude. Yes there are guys and girls like Nas in a lot of hoods but they're in the minority.

So to the naked eye, had he not made it, he'd be a "typical hood dude" which is what? A slanging, drop out who's never going to be anything. But we know him now as the legend because he did what he was capable of doing. There are plenty of high level creatives in the hood, there's just so much to balance that most people never reach their potential. I've met smarter people, more cultured, more worldly people in my old hoods than I've met in great neighborhoods.

Also, we don't consider the streets to include the working class, or middle class. When we say streets, we mean the hood. Poverty. Low income. Welfare. Section 8. Food Stamps etc. That's some new shyt that people try to push that the "streets" just mean the city. I know plenty of plenty in my city of all races who at the thought of some neighborhoods, because they're too hood. I think Hip Hop is at a point where there are so many people chiming in who are uninformed, and these opinions are respected even though they aren't backed by much fact.

Like you, your from The UK and hear you are giving your scope on what you think About a black American lifestyle/culture. Just your perspective. Which isn't much because you're not from here.

Aren't you supposed to be the educated, worldly one? And you're still running with incorrect hearsay and bad grammar?

And please, don't play that "you don't know Black American lifestyle" bullshyt. It's so tired. I probably know more about the lifestyle than you do. I notice that the few people who love using that deflection are super vague about where in the US they're actually from, where they've traveled to, and if they're even Black to begin with. It's all very at this point.

oh, and don't be surprised if @biscuitsnbangers knows more about this hip hop shyt and has better hip hop taste than you.

 

[iFightSeagullsForBread]

It really doesn't matter anymore where your music comes from as long as it's good.

 

[onelastdeath]

Plenty is an overstatement. But yes, some intellectuals live in the hood.



Nas's father is a playwright and comes from a whole family of playwrights. Wasn't Nas's mom a university graduate or some shyt? in a house full of books?

That's not the typical hood story. Let's be real here. Nas is a hood dude, but he's not the typical hood dude. Yes there are guys and girls like Nas in a lot of hoods but they're in the minority.



Aren't you supposed to be the educated, worldly one? And you're still running with incorrect hearsay with bad grammar?

And please, don't play that "you don't know Black American lifestyle" bullshyt. It's so tired. I probably know more about the lifestyle than you do. I notice that the few people who love using that deflection are super vague about where in the US they're actually from, where they're traveled to, and if they're even Black to begin with. It's all very at this point.

oh, and don't be surprised if @biscuitsnbangers knows more about this hip hop shyt and has better hip hop taste than you.

That was good. I'll give you that.

 

[SirBiatch]

That was good. I'll give you that.

claim "troll" when unexpectedly shytted on, brehs

All good bruh You wouldn't be the first