So What Exactly is Wrong with "Social Justice"?

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Do you honestly think rape culture is real in America?
I woke up to a blowjob... :lupe: thats part of rape culture right?
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:jbhmm:But seriously, I don't feel as though our culture in the states has normalized rape/sexual assault(rape culture). Could one of you break down how it has? or define clearly for me what you mean by rape culture if i'm misunderstanding? @Call Me James @ScholarD @kwazzy100
 

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I woke up to a blowjob... :lupe: thats part of rape culture right?
:pachaha:








:jbhmm:But seriously, I don't feel as though our culture in the states has normalized rape/sexual assault(rape culture). Could one of you break down how it has? or define clearly for me what you mean by rape culture if i'm misunderstanding? @Call Me James @ScholarD @kwazzy100
it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

A typical response to what I just posted that further reinforces rape culture will be something along the lines of, "well she shouldn't have recorded a video if you didn't want anyone to see it." "No one forced her in a gang bang. She should have fought harder." or other victim shaming comments.


will pink Freud give up his no mention me proclamation in order to respond? Stay tuned coli brehs.
 

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it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

A typical response to what I just posted that further reinforces rape culture will be something along the lines of, "well she shouldn't have recorded a video if you didn't want anyone to see it." "No one forced her in a gang bang. She should have fought harder." or other victim shaming comments.



will pink Freud give up his no mention me proclamation in order to respond? Stay tuned coli brehs.
:ehh:Then rape culture is real.

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it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

A typical response to what I just posted that further reinforces rape culture will be something along the lines of, "well she shouldn't have recorded a video if you didn't want anyone to see it." "No one forced her in a gang bang. She should have fought harder." or other victim shaming comments.


will pink Freud give up his no mention me proclamation in order to respond? Stay tuned coli brehs.


couldn't this also be applied to men as well in terms of being sexually harassed or sexual abuse? hell, i've seen plenty of men who have been molested as boys basically saying that they consented to having sex or were "having fun" when in reality, they were molested.

i think the concept of "rape culture" is flawed because it doesn't address the issue of rape head on. as i said before, the idea of rape culture is just a shortcut of the bigger problem treating rape as a symptom instead of looking at the underlying causes and not educating the population about the problem.
 
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couldn't this also be applied to men as well in terms of being sexually harassed or sexual abuse? hell, i've seen plenty of men who have been molested as boys basically saying that they consented to having sex or were "having fun" when in reality, they were molested.

i think the concept of "rape culture" is flawed because it doesn't address the issue of rape head on. as i said before, the idea of rape culture is just a shortcut of the bigger problem treating rape as a symptom instead of looking at the underlying causes and not educating the population about the problem.
Im not quite sure I'm following you here. Please bear with me. Are you saying its flawed because it's more pervasive than my examples?
 

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Im not quite sure I'm following you here. Please bear with me. Are you saying its flawed because it's more pervasive than my examples?

it's flawed because it attempts to summarize a bunch of issues centered around a disadvantaged group (women) which is being oppressed by another group (men) into one big summary saying it's "rape culture". it's a lot more complex than that and shouldn't be treated as something that is simple. just like "toxic masculinity" doesn't really explain or get in depth with the problem it's trying to address with men. that's what the problem with the whole "social justice warrior" thing is. someone who claims to be an "activist", cares about social problems BUT either takes the easy way out by doing some summary shyt for whatever reasons or moves off of personal gain where they are fronting like they know something when they don't. pretty much sums up occupy wall street, black lives matter, DAPL, the flint water crisis, KONY 2012, the orlando massacre and all these issues that go viral on social media and get ignored sometime later.
 
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Yo,
Rape culture doesn't exist in America or any western countries.....period

Are you wiling to say this paragraph below is telling lies?


it's generally the normalizing of behavior of sexual assault or abuse. It often comes across through statements that reinforce or actions that are based around the concept of being owed sex or control over women's bodies.

This isn't limited to, but includes throwing parties with the intention of getting women drunk for sex, attempting to shame them into group sex, trains, violating the trust of pictures or video that should remain private, shaming to cover up said actions, etc.

A typical response to what I just posted that further reinforces rape culture will be something along the lines of, "well she shouldn't have recorded a video if you didn't want anyone to see it." "No one forced her in a gang bang. She should have fought harder." or other victim shaming comments.
 

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it's flawed because it attempts to summarize a bunch of issues centered around a disadvantaged group (women) which is being oppressed by another group (men) into one big summary saying it's "rape culture". it's a lot more complex than that and shouldn't be treated as something that is simple. just like "toxic masculinity" doesn't really explain or get in depth with the problem it's trying to address with men. that's what the problem with the whole "social justice warrior" thing is. someone who claims to be an "activist", cares about social problems BUT either takes the easy way out by doing some summary shyt for whatever reasons or moves off of personal gain where they are fronting like they know something when they don't. pretty much sums up occupy wall street, black lives matter, DAPL, the flint water crisis, KONY 2012, the orlando massacre and all these issues that go viral on social media and get ignored sometime later.
It's not actually about the disadvantaged group though. It's about how society encourages a group to feel their desires supersedes the rights of the individual and then double down once they've been called out.

I've given you a few examples and you haven't addressed any of them.

Can you do that?
 

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Yo,
Rape culture doesn't exist in America or any western countries.....period
Ironically you're Canadian? Have you attended American college? Have you been a D1 athlete or better? Do you disagree that the Derrick Rose case isn't a clear example of this type of behavior?
 

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it's flawed because it attempts to summarize a bunch of issues centered around a disadvantaged group (women) which is being oppressed by another group (men) into one big summary saying it's "rape culture". it's a lot more complex than that and shouldn't be treated as something that is simple. just like "toxic masculinity" doesn't really explain or get in depth with the problem it's trying to address with men. that's what the problem with the whole "social justice warrior" thing is. someone who claims to be an "activist", cares about social problems BUT either takes the easy way out by doing some summary shyt for whatever reasons or moves off of personal gain where they are fronting like they know something when they don't. pretty much sums up occupy wall street, black lives matter, DAPL, the flint water crisis, KONY 2012, the orlando massacre and all these issues that go viral on social media and get ignored sometime later.
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Ironically you're Canadian? Have you attended American college? Have you been a D1 athlete or better? Do you disagree that the Derrick Rose case isn't a clear example of this type of behavior?
So you are isolating certain very specific ppl and demographics and using them to try and prove a point about all of society....which is false.

Rape culture isn't normalized in our society. No one thinks rape is acceptable in any way. Nor do they think that any similar behavior is ok.

All of society isn't judged off of what may or may not happen in a frat house or in a basketball locker room.

It's when ppl make these sweeping generalizations that gets us nowhere.

Culture means that something is universally accepted by the population.

Saying we have a rape culture because a very very very small percentage of ppl think it's ok is just a lie. And anyone perpetuating that lie, even to appear any type of way is just a spineless fakkit.
 
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