So when it's all said and done, how do you think this Trump thing will pan out?

[acri1]

I don't understand the argument that a failure to remove Trump from office is somehow going to make him more popular?

Totally get that the Senate removing him is unlikely at this point. But it's clear that he is flippantly breaking laws. An impeachment trial that clearly lays this all out won't sway the die hard MAGA crowd but how is this going to somehow going to make him popular among the less interested independent crowd

Unless this Ukraine thing completely blows up in the Dems faces, I really don't see it. The dems should also be impeaching on everything. Don't put all the eggs in one basket.

He's going to play the "everybody is after me" victim card. You know, "presidential harassment", "Dems are just mad they lost the election", "liberal media", etc.

As for whether it'll be effective...

 

[LoMax30]

Totally get that the Senate removing him is unlikely at this point. But it's clear that he is flippantly breaking laws. An impeachment trial that clearly lays this all out won't sway the die hard MAGA crowd but how is this going to somehow going to make him popular among the less interested independent crowd

I think for the dems to win in 2020 they need to sway the blue collar cac vote (the same ones who voted for Obama in 2012 but then voted for Trump in 2016) and imo I don't see this Ukraine thing swaying them. The economy is (allegedly) doing well, unemployment is low, and they could care less about immigration.

 

[Meta Reign]

He never disses Republicans.

Not true. Not true at all. If I focus more on Democrats it's because most of this forum is deluded by them. Generally speaking I definitely despise liberals, but I despise establishment politicians as a whole including many of the republicans in congress.

If I come across otherwise I truly don't mean to. . . But come on now. . . Yall got Adam Schiff literally fabricating quotes from Trump in public congressional testimony. . . It's stuff like that we ALL need to be against regardless of your feelings. It's blatantly criminal.

 

[Paper Boi]

contingent on who get the democratic nomination.

 

[Paper Boi]

Trump looks like he's gonna die soon

i thought that in 2016

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Not true. Not true at all. If I focus more on Democrats it's because most of this forum is deluded by them. Generally speaking I definitely despise liberals, but I despise establishment politicians as a whole including many of the republicans in congress.

If I come across otherwise I truly don't mean to. . . But come on now. . . Yall got Adam Schiff literally fabricating quotes from Trump in public congressional testimony. . . It's stuff like that we ALL need to be against regardless of your feelings. It's blatantly criminal.

Why?

Republicans do it all the time and stay winning...if anything Democrats need to play dirtier

 

[Jhoon]

He’ll be impeached and not convicted in the Senate

Electorally it’s too early to say but being impeached only helps him with GOP voters

The republicans were going to vote republican anyway. Look at Roy Moore.

 

[Meta Reign]

Why?

Republicans do it all the time and stay winning...if anything Democrats need to play dirtier

Point me to a moment when a ANY rep or senator completely fabricated quotes from another person, purposely and for political gain?

 

[Jhoon]

Nothing

Trump will leave office, hide for a year, go on an apology tour with his book, which will sell out.

He’s going to be in prison and the assets of his entire family will be confiscated and distributed to the immigrants he has held. And if the family assets are not enough to meet the $100,000 criteria, assets of the rest of the administration should be collected and pooled together then disbursed until all debts are paid.

 

[Cynic]

Even if it fails, hes not winning 2020
Unless he cheats

He is winning the next term breh.

GOP has no choice but to levy support for him.

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Point me to a moment when a ANY rep or senator completely fabricated quotes from another person, purposely and for political gain?

Slate’s Use of Your Data

 

[2stainz]

He will likely win re election, cause historically this country aint shyt

 

[FAH1223]

He will likely win re election, cause historically this country aint shyt

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

Since impeachment is so political, I can't see Reps removing Trump from office. Wether or not he gets reelected depends entirely on the Dem nominee.