So who made god?

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A copper teapot is made out of material. Material did not exist before the big bang. Some physicists think a collective math existed before the big bang but that would not fit the definition of nothing.

God has the qualities which are not defined by what existed after the big bang.

If you call God, Mother Nature, then you would be on the right track. Theres no reason to have an omnipotent presence to describe nature.
 

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If you call God, Mother Nature, then you would be on the right track. Theres no reason to have an omnipotent presence to describe nature.

A god who is in everything would be more like the force. Universalism resides in that area. God could not exist in nature if nature did not exist. Even nature itself is defined by space, time and matter.
 

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A copper teapot is made out of material. Material did not exist before the big bang. Some physicists think a collective math existed before the big bang but that would not fit the definition of nothing.

God has the qualities which are not defined by what existed after the big bang.
no it's a special teapot with no material that you can understand, this teapot willed the world into existence

you did not answer the first question at all :lolbron:
you bout to dance this whole thread :ufdup:
 

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Indeed. It's hell. I reccomend looking into a subject called the Law of Reverse Effort by famed French Psychologist Emile Coue.

The law of Reversed Effort basically points out as a fact that, there are certain things which, if you tried to do, you will undo -- Like sleeping. This is the problem with most insomniacs (not saying you are necessarily one) but most seem to have some kind of 'ritual' to 'make' sleep happen. But its impractical ( i would even say unhealthy) to 'make' sleep happen - "Every deliberate effort will make you more aware, more alert and sleep will be put off."

Sleep musn't be pursued, but persuaded if you will...

The universe as we currently know it all goes back to one point. It is commonly accepted in academia that nothing existed before the big bang.

Do you accept this? May we consider can there be so-called "nothing" without that which has been named "something"? OR "Something" without "Nothing"?

Would we say there could be something named "Light" apart from what is named "Dark"? or the idea of "UP" without that of "down"?
:ohhh:
 

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no it's a special teapot with no material that you can understand, this teapot willed the world into existence

you did not answer the first question at all :lolbron:
you bout to dance this whole thread :ufdup:

No dancing required. The big bang is not up for debate at this point in time in academia. You still have the issue that something came from NOTHING. What caused the big bang cannot be defined by what existed AFTERWARDS.
 

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Do you accept this? May we consider can there be so-called "nothing" without that which has been named "something"? OR "Something" without "Nothing"?

Would we say there could be something named "Light" apart from what is named "Dark"? or the idea of "UP" without that of "down"?
:ohhh:

So far there is no evidence pointing to other options. It has been game on since Hubble discovered the red shift. Scientists even agree dark matter didn't exist before the big bang.

Aristotle once said nothing is what rocks dream about. Anything relating to matter on any plane would violate that and not be able to be called nothing.
 

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Indeed. It's hell. I reccomend looking into a subject called the Law of Reverse Effort by famed French Psychologist Emile Coue.

The law of Reversed Effort basically points out as a fact that, there are certain things which, if you tried to do, you will undo -- Like sleeping. This is the problem with most insomniacs (not saying you are necessarily one) but most seem to have some kind of 'ritual' to 'make' sleep happen. But its impractical ( i would even say unhealthy) to 'make' sleep happen - "Every deliberate effort will make you more aware, more alert and sleep will be put off."

Sleep musn't be pursued, but persuaded if you will...



Do you accept this? May we consider can there be so-called "nothing" without that which has been named "something"? OR "Something" without "Nothing"?

Would we say there could be something named "Light" apart from what is named "Dark"? or the idea of "UP" without that of "down"?
:ohhh:

Yeah. I'm gonna look into that
Thanks for the heads up
 

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Would we say there could be something named "Light" apart from what is named "Dark"? or the idea of "UP" without that of "down"?
I won't get into electromagnetic energy and the particular human definition of darkness, but that aside,
This notion makes me think about the definition of space-time as something which can only exist (and is defined) as a manifestation of energy/forces promulgating through it
 

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No dancing required.
:beli: you doing a jig right now:pachaha:

The big bang is not up for debate at this point in time in academia.
You the only one debating that:beli::mjlol:
burning up a rug there bud:stylin:


What caused the big bang cannot be defined by what existed AFTERWARDS.
like you who came after the big bang can't define God, but wants to tell everyone you can?
Claim god exists while admitting that axiomatically they can't define God brehs:beli::mjlol:
 

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:beli: you doing a jig right now:pachaha:


You the only one debating that:beli::mjlol:
burning up a rug there bud:stylin:



like you who came after the big bang can't define God, but wants to tell everyone you can?
Claim god exists while admitting that axiomatically they can't define God brehs:beli::mjlol:

What did you learn about in science class as a kid regarding the creation of the universe? The big bang which is still taught in class today? I'm not defining God by what came after the big bang so why do you say I am?

I have always said God is spaceless, timeless and immaterial which is different from space, time and matter.
 
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My teapot made the universe, it existed before the big bang
your inability to understand it does not surprise me :mjlol:



Irony blindness brehs:beli::mjlol:

The Bible is God's word and to this day there is no archeological evidence that contradicts it. We have found cities, records of people, even chariot parts in a strip from the parting of the sea.
 
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