So who really started trap music?

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Just so you know, you have always been soft :shaq:

And for all you "trap muzik is only an Atlanta thing" ass nukkas, have a tall glass of shut the fukk up and take a nap. Maybe the word "trap" was popularized in Atlanta, but the shyt them nukkas was doing been done in NY, LA, Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, Ohio, North Dakota, Wyoming, Etc. Your use of the word doesn't make it special :yeshrug:

u got a issue u wanna talk about?or u just wanna question my hand speeds over the innanet:mjpls:.
 

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I think that the bigger question is more or less who pionneered that Trap sound...because that's what really defines Trap music, the production.

You can't really say subject matter because dudes talk about gettin' money, selling drugs and whatnot in all different genres of rap.
 

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Listen 2 im serious, in the streetz 1, 2, 3 and trap muzik and tell me these nikkas not didnt get their style from him they just not half the rapper he is.

And yes trappin is some atown shyt just like gang bangin is some l.a. and chi town shyt.

yeah, a lot of people confuse southern dopeboy rap with trap music...i dont know how, but they do.

but the big " i feel like riding round slow with a gun out the window" type beats, simple but effective dopeboy lines trap music we know of started with Tip.

 

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it breaks it down a lot more than gucci, yo gotti, ross and jeezy ever did that nikka telling the game from everyside thats real trap music. :snoop: Yall nikkas thinking hard 808's and bragging about selling dope equals trap music. The "trap" is way more than just selling dope and a place 2 sell dope

Nah I agree with that,the trap music lane is mostly substancless shyt where nikkas talk bout nuthin but coke and the lifestyle it buys u when u good at it,that's why I say Trap Muzik is a throwback and not really in that lane.....but I'm sayin in comparison to the throwback albums and other rappers like E40,8ball mjg,face,p who rapped about the dopeboy lifestyle TI don't even really get deep into it like they did
 

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Yeah.

Geto Boys had some of the first set of horrorcore raps too. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

As for the trap "sound" in think that 3 6 mafia sorta helped pioneer that sound in a sense.

I would say the organ synthy church vibe production started with geto boys.

ugk then had the next sorta explosion production and indepth content wise as well.
Plus I feel pimp c's church organ based stylings are overlooked in the origin of trap music's sound.
As well as early geto boys producers in the early 90's.
To even beats by the pound in the mid to late nineties.

This is all regional, in discussion of course.
As pretty much all rap had drug content From its inception.
Yet, to distinctly give the south its own base historically.
We should point to the geto boys, nationally. Who along with scarface pretty much segregated the south into a real recognized region.
Instead of being just originally lumped in with the west coast originally.
Or, most gangsta rap groups were considered west coast artist if they were not from ny, as well.
As originally the geto boy were considered a west coast gangsta rap group.
That later unified and coined the south as a region with Florida.
Which kinda gave luke and Miami bass.
More ability to segregate into being accepted in two circles as part of the culture originally,..miami bass was not thought of as rap at all.
Nor, accepted in hip hop culturally content wise or sonically, either
It was called bootie music, or bass music to be polite.
DJ magic mike, to DJ jimi all were considered pioneers of bass.
Which gave way to DJ jimi, and other southern dj's making tapes.
Which then gave way to screw tapes.
Which soon sorta sprouted into what we call southern production.
Imo,...i feel triple six mainstreamed and gave the south its production scope and ultimate direction. Which imo, is a mash up of early ny 90's call and response anthem chant hook making. Mixed with horrorcore showbiz to gravediggaz to freestyle fellowship/westcoast shop content and DJ uneek of bone style records and production. Which gave it a harder edge and its identifiable horror movie score scope and direction. In what is now considered the main identifiable sound of trap music.

Yet there are hordes of production styles And content bases that birthed or originated in other regions.
I feel southern trap music has gotten its sound from. That is overlooked.
Yet when you look at the influences of a group like triple six.
You can see how closely related they are culturally in origin to rap's essence in hip hop.

I feel even a group like Dayton family although a Midwest act.
Produced records that could be considered early inclusions of what trap music, is content wise, as well. as I feel Dayton family had a distinct flair for making what was similar to geto boys style music. Or southern music before the south was recognized as a region. Plus could easily be interchanged with groups like the geto boys, ugk and the convicts.
plus, other Michigan acts like esham and natas, and even nip.
All made submissions based on horrorcore style gangsta records with heavy violence and drug content. Which also included the horrornovie score style of what would be later identifiable as the prevalent sound of trap music.
As, trap muaic or horror movie score or horrorcore style production starts to become the main staple sonically for rap.
Trap music will soon not just be branded to just the south as a genre.

As we are living in a day and time. When, across the world!
The production, content and scope styling of what is termed trap music.
Has become the prerequisite sound and scope for most of rap music made in this day and age.


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Just so you know, you have always been soft :shaq:

And for all you "trap muzik is only an Atlanta thing" ass nukkas, have a tall glass of shut the fukk up and take a nap. Maybe the word "trap" was popularized in Atlanta, but the shyt them nukkas was doing been done in NY, LA, Atlanta, Houston, Chicago, Ohio, North Dakota, Wyoming, Etc. Your use of the word doesn't make it special :yeshrug:

by all means, Trap Music is only an ATL thing..

it's a specific sound... just like Bounce,G Funk,Screw,Miami Bass all are specific sounds that come from one region alone
 

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I think people are gettin confused. Trap muzic is a type of sound. Just like g-funk, snap, hyphy, new jack swing, etc. Just because the geto boys,scarface, backbone, cool breeze and ghetto mafia made some gangsta music ,that doesn't mean that its "trap" music. What epitomizes the trap sound are producers like zaytoven, toomp, drumma boy & shawty red. Even young chop should be a considered a trap producer. People are mixing up the music types.
 

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What makes trap rap different from gagnster rap?

You're confusing the two. Trap music is more about the production, and gangster rap being subject matter.

Just like you can have gangster rap in G Funk, Boom Bap and so on, you have gangster rap in Trap music as well. The only difference is production style ^^
 

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I think people are gettin confused. Trap muzic is a type of sound. Just like g-funk, snap, hyphy, new jack swing, etc. Just because the geto boys,scarface, backbone, cool breeze and ghetto mafia made some gangsta music ,that doesn't mean that its "trap" music. What epitomizes the trap sound are producers like zaytoven, toomp, drumma boy & shawty red. Even young chop should be a considered a trap producer. People are mixing up the music types.

Is Daz a trap producer?
 

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I would say the organ synthy church vibe production started with geto boys.

ugk then had the next sorta explosion production and indepth content wise as well.
Plus I feel pimp c's church organ based stylings are overlooked in the origin of trap music's sound.
As well as early geto boys producers in the early 90's.
To even beats by the pound in the mid to late nineties.

This is all regional, in discussion of course.
As pretty much all rap had drug content From its inception.
Yet, to distinctly give the south its own base historically.
We should point to the geto boys, nationally. Who along with scarface pretty much segregated the south into a real recognized region.
Instead of being just originally lumped in with the west coast originally.
Or, most gangsta rap groups were considered west coast artist if they were not from ny, as well.
As originally the geto boy were considered a west coast gangsta rap group.
That later unified and coined the south as a region with Florida.
Which kinda gave luke and Miami bass.
More ability to segregate into being accepted in two circles as part of the culture originally,..miami bass was not thought of as rap at all.
Nor, accepted in hip hop culturally content wise or sonically, either
It was called bootie music, or bass music to be polite.
DJ magic mike, to DJ jimi all were considered pioneers of bass.
Which gave way to DJ jimi, and other southern dj's making tapes.
Which then gave way to screw tapes.
Which soon sorta sprouted into what we call southern production.
Imo,...i feel triple six mainstreamed and gave the south its production scope and ultimate direction. Which imo, is a mash up of early ny 90's call and response anthem chant hook making. Mixed with horrorcore showbiz to gravediggaz to freestyle fellowship/westcoast shop content and DJ uneek of bone style records and production. Which gave it a harder edge and its identifiable horror movie score scope and direction. In what is now considered the main identifiable sound of trap music.

Yet there are hordes of production styles And content bases that birthed or originated in other regions.
I feel southern trap music has gotten its sound from. That is overlooked.
Yet when you look at the influences of a group like triple six.
You can see how closely related they are culturally in origin to rap's essence in hip hop.

I feel even a group like Dayton family although a Midwest act.
Produced records that could be considered early inclusions of what trap music, is content wise, as well. as I feel Dayton family had a distinct flair for making what was similar to geto boys style music. Or southern music before the south was recognized as a region. Plus could easily be interchanged with groups like the geto boys, ugk and the convicts.
plus, other Michigan acts like esham and natas, and even nip.
All made submissions based on horrorcore style gangsta records with heavy violence and drug content. Which also included the horrornovie score style of what would be later identifiable as the prevalent sound of trap music.
As, trap muaic or horror movie score or horrorcore style production starts to become the main staple sonically for rap.
Trap music will soon not just be branded to just the south as a genre.

As we are living in a day and time. When, across the world!
The production, content and scope styling of what is termed trap music.
Has become the prerequisite sound and scope for most of rap music made in this day and age.


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You broke it down EXACTLY how it is. You are definitely a Hip Hop head. When people speak about southern production, like it is something new, I can tell they aren't that deep into Hip Hop. What makes it unique today is that it is more clean due to technology, and more synthesizers are being used then before. Back then the instruments were computerized, but they simulated real instruments whereas now it is based on mostly electronic sounds. I think Trap music is what helped usher in the dance music become popular today because trap music relies heavily on synthesizers just like Electronic Dance Music. Also, the dopeboy image plays a big part now but the essence of it has been around for a while. Props for letting the truth be known.
 

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You're confusing the two. Trap music is more about the production, and gangster rap being subject matter.

Just like you can have gangster rap in G Funk, Boom Bap and so on, you have gangster rap in Trap music as well. The only difference is production style ^^

Ahh.

So its all rap music of course. Then u break it down to gangster rap, then u break that down again into production style(g funk, trap etc..) makes sense
 

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I think people are gettin confused. Trap muzic is a type of sound. Just like g-funk, snap, hyphy, new jack swing, etc. Just because the geto boys,scarface, backbone, cool breeze and ghetto mafia made some gangsta music ,that doesn't mean that its "trap" music. What epitomizes the trap sound are producers like zaytoven, toomp, drumma boy & shawty red. Even young chop should be a considered a trap producer. People are mixing up the music types.

Yup, yup. Pretty much spot on. :jawalrus:
 

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I would say the organ synthy church vibe production started with geto boys.

ugk then had the next sorta explosion production and indepth content wise as well.
Plus I feel pimp c's church organ based stylings are overlooked in the origin of trap music's sound.
As well as early geto boys producers in the early 90's.
To even beats by the pound in the mid to late nineties.

This is all regional, in discussion of course.
As pretty much all rap had drug content From its inception.
Yet, to distinctly give the south its own base historically.
We should point to the geto boys, nationally. Who along with scarface pretty much segregated the south into a real recognized region.
Instead of being just originally lumped in with the west coast originally.
Or, most gangsta rap groups were considered west coast artist if they were not from ny, as well.
As originally the geto boy were considered a west coast gangsta rap group.
That later unified and coined the south as a region with Florida.
Which kinda gave luke and Miami bass.
More ability to segregate into being accepted in two circles as part of the culture originally,..miami bass was not thought of as rap at all.
Nor, accepted in hip hop culturally content wise or sonically, either
It was called bootie music, or bass music to be polite.
DJ magic mike, to DJ jimi all were considered pioneers of bass.
Which gave way to DJ jimi, and other southern dj's making tapes.
Which then gave way to screw tapes.
Which soon sorta sprouted into what we call southern production.
Imo,...i feel triple six mainstreamed and gave the south its production scope and ultimate direction. Which imo, is a mash up of early ny 90's call and response anthem chant hook making. Mixed with horrorcore showbiz to gravediggaz to freestyle fellowship/westcoast shop content and DJ uneek of bone style records and production. Which gave it a harder edge and its identifiable horror movie score scope and direction. In what is now considered the main identifiable sound of trap music.

Yet there are hordes of production styles And content bases that birthed or originated in other regions.
I feel southern trap music has gotten its sound from. That is overlooked.
Yet when you look at the influences of a group like triple six.
You can see how closely related they are culturally in origin to rap's essence in hip hop.

I feel even a group like Dayton family although a Midwest act.
Produced records that could be considered early inclusions of what trap music, is content wise, as well. as I feel Dayton family had a distinct flair for making what was similar to geto boys style music. Or southern music before the south was recognized as a region. Plus could easily be interchanged with groups like the geto boys, ugk and the convicts.
plus, other Michigan acts like esham and natas, and even nip.
All made submissions based on horrorcore style gangsta records with heavy violence and drug content. Which also included the horrornovie score style of what would be later identifiable as the prevalent sound of trap music.
As, trap muaic or horror movie score or horrorcore style production starts to become the main staple sonically for rap.
Trap music will soon not just be branded to just the south as a genre.

As we are living in a day and time. When, across the world!
The production, content and scope styling of what is termed trap music.
Has become the prerequisite sound and scope for most of rap music made in this day and age.


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